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40 minutes ago, JoeD said:

Dr. Bloxham. 

Thank you. I will look into him more

Who are some of the best that dense pack hairlines consistently?

Do you have any post op photos of extraction or placement? Looks great Doctor

Just now, hunggchandat said:

I stopped researching since I've done my HT, but still in a facebook group of ppl who suffering from hairloss and read their discussions sometimes, pretty sure at this point.

Do you know what density per sq cm they implant at?

2 minutes ago, hunggchandat said:

we are all suffering around. Vietnam still has a few more HT clinic but most likely scammers or poor results clinics.

As far as I know TrueHair is still the best in town

The best in all Vietnam? Did you consider any other clinics?

How does your donor look in harsher light? Insanely good work by Doctor Pittella

Excited to follow. I already know this result will be 10/10 though. You picked a perfect doctor!

3 hours ago, Bucky O Hair said:

I doubt it, but I don't know.

I haven't seen an FUT scar with SMP in person before.  I see it online, but photos are deceiving (especially in the HT world) and I would only want to see what it looks in person.

To be honest with you, I am heavily biased because I am planning to keep my hair short on the sides and back and I also want the option to buzz it down to a one guard if I ever decide to opt-out of having hair (if the loss keeps progressing).  That is one of my biggest requirements, so naturally I am going to slander FUT every chance I get. 

But, in my opinion, it's just a no-brainer to me to go with FUE for the sole purpose that you avoid having to deal with the linear scar, and I'm not so convinced about some of the dated arguments that FUT is better than FUE, especially when you pick a good clinic and you see all the great large-session FUE results on here.  

There are a lot of FUT vs FUE threads that I'm sure could help you in your decision.  I just hope that you are not allowing the cheaper price of FUT to influence your decision.

 

 

 

Very true points. Yes so fue really allows one to potentially also shave it one day while fut doesn’t. Any clinics you really like when it comes to fue and minimized fue scarring?

7 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Sounds like you’ve made your decision. Who cares what everyone else thinks, you’re not here to convince people. You’re here for yourself.

Yes probably best to go with what my gut tells me. I just don’t want to make the wrong decision and wish I did what I have been informed to do

1 hour ago, Bucky O Hair said:

Yes absolutely.  FUE scarring is unquestionably better than FUT scarring and it's not even close.

I ride the subway every day and I look at people's hair all the time to see if I can spot a wig, transplant, or SMP.

I can always detect the wigs and and SMP jobs.  I can also very often detect the FUT jobs.  The linear scar is always visible with short hair, and sometimes even visible when there is length there too (if the donor is thinner).  I have never once seen FUE scarring or moth-eaten overharvested donor area that people keep warning about, and I am actually looking for them.

I have seen FUE scars in person, up close, on the shaved head of a person who was showing them to me.  I think it's best to actually judge FUE scars in person, and not in photos.  Many FUE scar photos that are being circulated are old photos where the doctors used larger punch sizes. 

I would try to find someone who had an FUE transplant done with smaller punch sizes and then judge whether it's an issue.  Two friends of mine have FUE transplants and buzz the sides and back of their heads, and I can't see a thing.  The other person who I met (that had visible FUE scars) had his procedure done 10 years ago, so I suspect they were bigger punch sizes...but I wouldn't have seen them had I not been looking for them.

Also, if you have brown or olive colored skin, that will make it stand out more.  I've heard of people using SMP to cover it up, so that's also a good option.  But based on my experience, it's very difficult to see FUE scars if you are caucasian, unless you are probably wet shaving your scalp.

 

Interesting but couldn’t fue into fut scar or smp into fut scar hide it just as well? Like you could wear your hair short if you did so. I am not an advocate for multiple strips but 1 to begin with into fue into the scar I think is still a viable option but it doesn’t appear 90% of people agree

1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Without question FUE scaring is better. To achieve the number of grafts I’ve had via FUE. I would’ve needed at least 3 strips. The chances of me getting a stretched scar would be very high. Stripping out is not good advice, and not something I would recommend anymore.

This is after 7k+ FUE grafts and a 1/2 guard. How a strip scar would likely look after multiple strips.

Yes I’d agree that looks good on you. Is it dependent on healing just as much as fut though? Mr Rolandas was showing fue scarring on his Instagram and I didn’t think it looked good on a fade. But maybe he had a bigger punch size 

Very good. Hope it all grows well. Do you know the density per sq cm the doctor used throughout your implanted areas?

4 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Lifetime grafts is dependent on the individual. This whole argument is nonsensical because hair restoration is individual. If you’re indeed a Norwood 7, there’s a possibility your strip would thin as well. @BeHappy is a good example. 

The assumption that everyone will become a Norwood 7 is absurd. The reality is that Norwood 7 is an extreme just like a Norwood 0.

For me as an example, my healthiest, thickest hair is above the so-called “universal zone” this hair is my most resistant hair. If I had strip, all of this high-quality hair wouldn’t be used. 
 

That’s why these claims that it gets the healthiest hair, or lifetime grafts is nonsense. This is all dependent on the individual.

It seems NW6-7 is still happening more so among young hair loss sufferers as they age. Very interesting point though. Everyone is different for sure. But when buzzed down are all those white dots much better than a linear scar? Maybe it is different for everyone and how they heal but seeing some users on YouTube and even Mr Rolandos show what a fade looks like I think the fue scarring is just as bad aesthetically as fut scar

Does this clinic have a site? Can’t find anything on them. Also any photos immediately after surgery in your donor? I love looking at post op extractions 

4 hours ago, arthurSam said:

Form Hair Transplan Forum International Volume 31 - Number 3 - May/June (2021):

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Very interesting. So really fut does get more lifetimes grafts if done first and may prevent miniaturization of that hair in the future?

Thanks for this thread. I have noticed a shed also but thought it was hair loss. I have been taken fin everyday for a year but upped the dose from 1 to 1.5. It happened within a couple weeks and my hairline looked way thinner. I also added minoxidil recently. It very well could be balding idk but evrything looked way thinner in a matter of a month.

On 1/16/2023 at 1:09 AM, Melvin- Moderator said:

The she’d is probably temporary. I think the hair being spread apart makes it look worse than the other picture. Seasonal sheds do occur as well.

Is the April to may common for hair shed in humans?

5 hours ago, TEXAN35 said:

I came across an article about this topic which supports FUT. This is just an opinion from a Doctor who does FUT but of course a good doctor.

FUE Hair Transplant New York | Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) NY (fellermedical.com)

That clinic is one of the last that still speaks highly of fut over fue. It just seems all talk nowadays points towards fue being far superior and fut being only necessary even for long term donor management in like 5% of cases

32 minutes ago, Sunset Dune said:

There really aren’t many pros to FUT anymore, when FUT was the main procedure for hair transplants back when I had no hair loss 7-8 years ago I always dreaded losing my hair one day if I had to get a transplant because it seemed so scary getting that scar. I’m glad FUE is now the mainstay for hair transplants and technology has improved a lot making FUE more superior to FUT. 

Doctors/techs are able to get better donor hairs with FUE extracting compared to FUT which is very important.

The biggest back and forth I see is which gets more lifetimes grafts and which from the safe zone. I am not for sure but I haven’t seen anything to show that fue gets more of either. Everyone has a different donor but assuming the worst donor I’d say fut seems to still have a place. And overharvest fue happens quite a bit 

I will be following. This is a massive undertaking and I am certain you will be pleased with the result!

1 hour ago, MisterBreakfast said:

Here are the reason's I will probably get FUT as a first proceedure.

1) My native density and hair/skin contrast ratio is not ideal.  If I go FUE first, I may not have enough density left to hide an FUT scar.

2) I have light-ish skin, and my scars typically heal very well.  I have a few from bike accidents and such and they are barely noticable.

3) I am a high Norwood and would like to get 1 large session done first, and maybe a smaller follow up, as opposed to more smaller sessions.

4) It is my personal belief that there are better options to repair a bad FUT scar vs overharvesting the donor with FUE.

5) I can always rock the power donut and hide an FUT scar.

6) I do not particularly like the way a skin fade looks on myself.

Those seem to be very good reasons. In your case I can definitely see why. One of the biggest problems with fut is not many clinics do it. And you can tell even at clinics where it is performed they’d rather probably do fue for most people. Finding the right doctor is crucial. 

20 minutes ago, JoeD said:

Do you think it would be fair to say that the shift towards majority FUE is a balance/mixture of advancement in technique/equipment, and also partially due to what majority of the patients want?  Ie Balancing the science with the business. 

I think that is a very good question and one I can agree with also

1 minute ago, Z-- said:

If you strip out, you can utilize an additional 2-3k grafts according to Shapiro and Konior. 

A few doctors disagree, like Eugenix or H&W. 

It depends which doctors you believe. I’m inclined to side with the first on the basis that they offer both, whereas the latter either so exclusively FUE or have moved away from FUT to FUE and can charge more for FUE. 

That said, 85% of men shouldn’t do FUT - FUE is less intrusive for lower Norwoods, and you should only opt for FUT if you need the additional lifetime grafts. 

Does taking 8k grafts from the donor via fue thin it out pretty good or is it negligible?

7 minutes ago, arthurSam said:

Max grafts extract for fue is 2000 in the safe area

In the safe zone? Pretty sure it is way higher than that

It seems nowadays people claim fue maximizes just as many lifetime grafts, can be taken from the safe zone in high numbers, and has just as high of yield if not better than fut. So what if any is the use of fut anymore? Or is there any benefit anymore?