Rocketman1

Can we see some backside pics right after the OP? Thanks So far excellent result!

Actually i was wondering about that: I hear from almost everywhere that the transplanted beard hair adapts the structure of your scalp hair as it grows on the scalp. I had many BHT transpplanted on my vertex 2-3 years ago but those hairs are still those curly and wiry, thick beard hairs. May we have to wait until they have gone through many cycles? But it would be a matter of years then... Also i confirm what you say that i have also no idea where my chest hairs went into, i mean i can't identify them clearls between my scalp and beard hairs... Thoughts anybody ?

I would say: problem solved 😉

My thread was mentoined in this thread as i had my surgery done at Cinik. I was there also a second time in March this year. I think you have to consider several individual points of every patient... here is my point: I'm a NW7 - so nothing to lose. OK, some will say i have my intact donor to lose. Bu the fact is i would never grow out my donor and would have kept shaving my head my whole life as it also kind of suited me. Now, having "nothing to lose" and limited financial rsources available i choosed the (probably-maybe not) best of the hair mills, but yes still a hair mill and it was the risk i took knowing to end uop satisfied or botched. Another relevant point for me was my expectation: I knew i was never ever going to end up with a full head of hair. I would have been happy to get enough coverage in order to work it out with concealers and that'a what i reachefd and i'm super happy. I have to use Toppik every day but i have a full head of hair! Before i was just a bald head. That's why i think is difficult to tell people generally that they are not a good candidate for a transplant. Another point was the poor resuslts also from so caled "Top Surgeons"... there are people which have spent 20-30k on a transplant and the overall result is not really much better than some results from Cinik. The summary of all mentioned points brought me to the decision that this is the right way for me to go and actually was also the right way. Paying two times 20-30k with maybe having a slightly better result was not worth it for me as for my starting point i consider myself now much more happier than before the surgeries... Now my last point: If i would have been lets say a NW2 i would have never gone to Cinik. I would have gone to a top surgeon and concentrate on the bald hairline only but my expectation level, paying 8-10k for 2000 grafts would have been 110%!

What about all these stubbles in the front. Did they ever grow? Have you tried to pick them out? Do they have any resistance when trying to pick them?

You will be surpsised as i agree with your disagreement, BUT haviong hair on the forehead is always the better option. 😉

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Sorry but saying there is generally no opportunity for this situation is wrong. It always depends on customers expectations, budget and how much "pain" in terms of process- time he is willing to take... A bald forehead looks always bad. So for some people a front half with sparse hair as a buzz cut could already make the difference for the proper person. We should not alwasys consider the opinion only from a NW 2 which has made his head full again with 2500 grafts.

I think at least from the front view is looks brillant considering there was not onw hair left on your front/top. We always have to cosnider from where somebody is coming. I would be interested to see you from the back , knowing that it is not like the front of course. But anyway i think the second doc made a good job. And you still have 6 month to go!

Well, can't really answer that question. I was there and i felt more secure having him to open the channels. But at the end - who knows if a tech would have open the channels in the same way. But hairline design could not have been made better so i'm really happy from that point of view. But if i would have unlimited money i would have go to a different clinic. But i'm happy with the executed work in any case. But you just feel like a number out of 10.000 and not as an individual patient at Cinik. I personally think that another clinic which would probably have charged 5 times the amputn would not have brought me a better result... But please make your own opinion and take your own decisions on what's important to you

It'S the same. they use this so called saphire FUE doing the incisins with a "saphire" Blade. The oinly differenc eis in the package you choose: Premium where Cinik makes the incisions and standard operators to the remaining work standard where operators do the incisions and work alternatively there is also DHI - direct hair implement which is only usefull for lower quantity of grafts of if need to fill out between region with existing hair

I agree, but i think it is the responsibility of each user in here to give besto possible advive also from an ethical point of view. And if something is on the fence from being natural of becomeing unnatural i feel responible to share my opinion. Of course everybody is free to do whatever he wants. I just want to make him aware of the fact that ceretain doctors maybe don't care about what i said and will just take the money and do the surgery. I'm not knocking this man's confidence, but just trying to let him understand that this seems to be the nature of the problem and not the status of the hair in order to let him avoid surgical fast desided action which could be regret afterwards.

Honestly i don't see the space where you need to add additional hair. At this stage it is always a risk in my opinion to operate between existing hairs. Even the fact of risk of shock loss and the small risk that some hair could be damaged during the procedure (which should not happen) My honest advice: Actually your hair is your last problem - but your self conficende is. You can have two more transplants and you are still weak on self confidence if you don't change your mindset! You hair looks great and i think everybody on this forum would put a signature underneath for having a current situation like yours!

In Europe - I think it's because it is not a "free" medication which you can simply buy in the pharmacy like Ibuprofen. You need to go to a DOC and get a receipt for it in order to get it. That's why there is no possibility to make commercial advertisement for it like regaine/rogaine and so on...

As many reported already, no issues with that. I just answered because i had it don in the described way. Had HT 3 years after SMP session

So from what i understand we can summarize that a thinning head without a hair transplant which is buzzed down generally look denser and a thinning head which had a hair transplant generally looks denser when the transplanted hair is grown out instead of buzzed down. That's what i understood now...

Thank you guys! I seem to understand. So basically even when you had a good hair transplant and you buzz your hair after lets say 5 years (the hair ransplant is fully matured) you will be again in a kind of "light" ugly duckling phase again until the hair reach a certain length?

Thanks a lot, after reading my post i realised a bunch of typo errors which i now corrected. Sorry for that. I also added one more impression about the hair shaft thickness.

Hello fellas, i have a question. I always wear my hair buzzed even after the hair transplant. I just like the style and it frames my face well instead of having a complete bald front view. So far so good. But one thing i'm asking myself is (and which one of my colleague told me also which had also a hair transplant): Is it correct that the hair needs a certain length to create the illusion of dense hair? Normally when you suffer from genetic hair loss and the hair becomes thinner, at a certain point when you decide to buzz your hair it appears denser than it looked like when it was longer. Now, my colleague told me that if you were slick bald and you make a hair transplant even during growing the transplanted hair and even after you reached your full end result after one or two years, you still look thinning until the hair reaches a certain length. So basically the opposite. Is this something which somebody could confirm or is it just a wrong impression? So he says that the hair needs to reach at least 4-5 cm in order to create the illusion. Another point is what he said is that the hair needs to grow long in order to grow the in caliber thickness. Is it right that if you cut it always short the hair will not fully mature to its maximum shaft thickness? I hope i'm able to express my self good enough in order to let you understand what i mean. Thanks for your thoughts as i used the search function but haven't find any answer to this specifically but, maybe some expereinced user can confirm or deny this!?

Hi, thanks for sharing. Did they took both times from under the chin or also like Eugenix does, also from the chin and cheek?

Question: Did the customer got an SMP inn the meantime? On the last pictures it looks like that there is a noticable "shadow" which is starting about 0,5cm behind the hairline!? Any way the result is amazing considering the original situation from where he comes from. Great job!

Here corrected update now exactly month 12. If you look carefully there are still new hairs coming out of the skin... So i think i'll have my end result more likels after 15-18 months...

Hi, the above pic (so the one with more hair) is 11 month. The lower pic is 7 month. But Tell me More about the resting Phase, what you mean by that?

I just Wanted to share a comparison image. 7 month post OP VS 11 month Post OP

Yes, i agree!