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24 minutes ago, hairlossPA said:
its hard to say..
my initial thought was "you dont need a hair transplant"... what are you most concerned about? hairline? I'd say you're a NW2. Personally I'd wait until there's a bit more damage and you can clearly see an issue with it. Right now, I dont think you are at that stage but to each their own..
15 minutes ago, RecessionProof said:Your hairline looks pretty solid, I'd wait a year or two and see how effective the fin is for you.
8 minutes ago, Johnboy71 said:Got to agree that you should wait a few years. Right now your good.
Thank you guys for replying. Yeah I agree, I go through phases where it doesn’t bother me and then other times I’ll have episodes where the thinning in certain situations drives me nuts. The few times it’s bad seems to outweigh the many times it’s fine, Human nature innit.. When I wash my hair, and style it and use a little bit of toppik I’m fine with it, but at the same time these next couple of months are my best opportunity to get it done as I’ll transition to a new job in jan/feb and recovery won’t be a problem.
& yes the main issue is the hairline. I tell myself if I go with a conservative hairline and fill it in I’ll be safeguarding myself for the future. Hopefully get a few more opinions on it but I do appreciate the feedback -
Hey everyone
Wanted to get your opinions on my current situation as I am getting closer to making a decision on a hair transplant. Im 28 years old in a couple of months and started experiencing hair loss around 24/25. Have been using minox 2x a day and 1mg fin since the start of the year, but have reduced the dosage right now to .25mg as I recently starting feeling slight aches down there and its too early to attribute to meds but am testing to see if the lower dosage resolves the issue. Anyway, I've posted some pics below, (prob a few too many, bare with me), and am looking for my first surgery to restore my hair line and temple points were most of the recession has happened (some thinning in the crown, but not unbearable and will likely have to treat later in the future). Also included photos of my dad and his father, thats where I believe the genes came from because my mother's side has experience no hair loss whatsoever.
My surgery will be in Canada, likely with Dr. Rahal and am also in conversation with H&W. Was quoted around 2,500 grafts to touch zones 1-4, but I'd like to know if you believe its the right time. The photo with the crown was taken wet under a harsh light.
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You have done a great job breaking this down for yourself and I commend you for being so mature at your age. I don't know enough about doctor's in Lebanon, but I am hoping you have chosen correctly for your needs and I hope it comes out well. This is a marathon not a sprint and it sounds like you're safeguarding for the future. Pretty large donor area as well, which is a positive for you moving forward. Best of luck and post your updates!
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Amazing for 5 months man, happy for you
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You certainly wouldn’t look any worse at The 6 month mark and up then maybe your current situation, although I’m just making an assumption so I could be wrong. But you wouldn’t have much to worry about. Worry about the initial first month of recovery and then she grows as she grows, out of your control anyway
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This seemed to have happened to my dad, started receding at the hairline to about a norwood 3 in his late 20s/early 30s, then stabilized going into his 40s. Now at 64, he has that same hair line shape but his hair his thinned out a bit which is normal given his age now.
That being said, def don't think this is true for everyone
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Why did you wait for your loss to progress?
I believe some combination of fue and smp is the best hope to recover that area
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On 4/13/2020 at 12:26 AM, CosmoKramer said:
Recently my dr pen stopped working after a year...and decided to try scalp massages so I recently purchased an electric scalp massager and using it daily, been a week now, I noticed some slight shedding of weak native hairs..but scalp turns pinkish for a few hours after and seems to be a positive sign of better blood flow. I’m going to continue this in combination with my oil mix for a couple months and see how it compares to my previous microneedling progress, but so far so good.
You should have a lifetime warranty with dr. Pen btw, so contact them
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2 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
14K grafts sounds amazing, but we shouldn't get carried away into sensational headlines. In reality, most of us don't have half that amount. Dr. Lorenzo made a very good video on coverage value, and it really showed how different patients could achieve different results with different graft numbers, whilst being around the same hair loss level.
Could you share the link ?
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26 minutes ago, Guy73 said:
For anyone that doubts fue For mega hairloss should take a look at this fue European conference.
I’ve seen of all his work, and I wonder why he isn’t talked about as much as other doctors 🧐. But these giga sessions are crazy
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7 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:
I’m surprised they didn’t include physicians in phase 1. Most of the US is still locked down, but non-urgent physician visits have been allowed.
Yeah surprises me too. I believe Dr. Diep as an example has been operating this whole time. They’re gonna be busy rescheduling a whole lot of patients
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4 hours ago, gillenator said:
The ban on cosmetic procedures was lifted several weeks ago so my guess is that most of the clinics should have re-opened by now?
He’s talking about not being able to cross the border. And no, I am in contact with both H&W and Rahal, and neither are open yet, Canada only just entered phase 1 of re-opening, likely clinics will be allowed to come back sometime in June
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7 minutes ago, ahmeda87 said:
33 and I have been on fin for a loooonnng time, never had issues. Always take a month break anyway after 11 months.
Hey what dosage do you take for fin?
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1 hour ago, 83mjs said:
Yeah I am currently on the “big 3” - 1mg finasteride and 5mg oral minoxidil every day, plus shampooing with Nizoral twice per week.
I’ve used topical minoxidil in the past but adherence was always a problem for me. I’ve been monitoring my heart rate since starting on oral minoxidil and it has actually improved, so my resting heart rate is now mid 40s although this is due to getting back into running rather than anything else. Don’t seem to have any excessive fluid retention either, but I’ll monitor it of course!Is the water retention a side of minoxidil ? May explain the recent excessive endeavours to the toilet recently loool
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I believe the lighting in your photo is overexposing a natural swirl. I had it growing up and at 27 now I still do. Regardless, at 20 years of age it’s great that you’ve paid attention, you’re in a position to be proactive about your hair going forward. Monitor every so often, don’t unnecessarily fixate, and see how it progresses.
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@CosmoKramer @Melvin-Moderator @HTHope
What is MSM? For supps I'm on bitoin, folic acid, and vitamin D, recommend anything else? (on fin and min)
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3 hours ago, SammyD said:
Curious to know if everyone also experienced lots of hairs falling off onto fingers while applying minoxidil foam. I hated seeing those fall out that is why I have been using liquid. Perhaps that is just normal and part of the course?
I'm experiencing the hair falling, or perhaps its shedding ,when using minoxidil too but I believe from what I'm reading online that this means the minoxidil is pushing the hair to a new growth cycle. Meaning that its likely any weak brittle hair breaking off and making way, but doesn't mean you lost the follicle. Hopefully someone with more experience than me with minoxidil could vouch for this, I've only been on it for about 4 months, but plan to continue using it at least 1x a day going forward.
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How long have you been using minox? My understanding is that you’ll notice closer to 4-6 months the rebounding of minox, from the hairs that are shedding being replaced by new hairs in the growth phase. If you’ve only just started, you may have to be patient with it
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http://www.minoxidilmax.com/?aff=132
minoxmax website has different products, could get topical fin or topical fin with minoxidil. Just a heads up this is an affiliation link they gave me, i got it so me and my friends could all get 15% discounts. Not some scam or something, if you care to use it, it also just give me 15 percent. Anyway look through their catalogue and blog there’s a lot of good info there
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On the bright side, they didn’t use more grafts for an area that definitely required more. Good surgeon could work between these hairs I’m sure. You could do some online consultations right now, get in touch with Dr. Rahal like you mentioned.
I believe it’s def fixable. Goodluck
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I had a similar experience to @John Doe. I had two consultations with Rahal's reps (one was with Aron while he was still with the clinic), and after the second consultation I e-mailed the rep to request to meet with Dr. Rahal. He set that up for me with no problem, and the next time Dr. Rahal was in Toronto I got to meet with him while another rep took notes of our conversation. Many clinics as busy as theirs use reps to coordinate because imagine how much time would be taken from the Doctor. Again when I asked to see him they accommodated me.
My experience with HW rep was also less impressive. He seemed to drive the conversation with his ego for no reason and it felt like a negotiation. Another thing i was disappointed with was that unlike Rahal's reps, he did not take any measurements of my donor area or measured for density. On all three of my visits that was standard at Rahal's clinics, they gave me numbers to work with in my head which I think is absolutely important. After eyeballing my head, the HW rep gave me an estimate and told me my donor looked to "in good shape". I shouldnt make it out like it was entirely bad, I just had different expectations coming into it.
Regardless, I understand that the reps are obviously not direct representation of the doctor's work... and both are still top clinics and atm I'm having trouble deciding between them.
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Yeah 2 or 2.5. Not too important, still early, start some preventative measures.
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2 hours ago, Thisisnotatest333 said:
im on a home brew topical fin and i have 0 side effects. I did have ball ache for a week but it went away. It could ve been something else too. I m also micronedling too
You compound it yourself? I use a topical finasteride I got from Minoxidil Max, got it with just finasteride because I have a fat supply or rogaine that I got at Costco so want to burn through that. I take oral fin 4x a week, and apply a bit of the topical on the days in between oral fin, any thoughts on that?
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I didn't mean to take away from your post with my photos, just meant to show you that in that area lighting could be a factor. My loss is mainly some recession in my temples and hairline, about a Norwood 2. My mother's side has the perfect hair gene, her father passed at 80 something with a complete head of hair, and her brother whos 65 now still has it. On my father's side, loss seems to extend to as far as norwood 3 maybe 4. So unlucky I didn't inherit from my mom. That being said I'm still grateful for catching it early enough to start treatment and prevent as much as I can, and thankfully we live in times of hair restoration. So my point to you is that I don't see much loss at all, your hairline is in tact and you've noticed something much earlier than most guys do (if its even anything). Took me close to three years to admit to myself that my hair was thinning. Go see a dermatologist or even consult with a good hair surgeon and get an assessment done when all this shit is over. Continue to research and learn about what you could do for it, but stressing just puts you back. For the time being if its a bother, use some fibers to cover it up the little whirl you have going, and take some photos every month to monitor it.
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Thank you so much for your input. Yeah I'm definitely going to continue minoxidil I don't have problems applying it and I hope that I continue to have a healthy relationship with finasteride. & yes I am grateful for the extent of my loss up until this point and I'm happy I discovered this forum to level my head and ground me. As for shock loss, I had this concern and brought it up with Dr. Rahal and he told me there is always potential for shock loss depending on the individual, do you think in my case the chances are heightened because he would have to insert some hairs around some of my native hairs? I've seen some cases on his website and youtube videos where he restores hairlines of patients in a similar situation, and my assumption has been he works around native hairs and transplants new ones to increase the density of the hair line. I imagine along the actual front, transplanted hairs would replace my native hairs, and he would work through some native hairs behind the temple points, does that sound about right?
The photo I'm posting I took just now prior to this write up. I washed my hair this morning and when I shampoo (i usually use nizarol), my hair always looks fuller with more volume.@Melvin-Moderator I believe you once mentioned that you wash your hair more often as it gives you this effect as well? Do you have any other suggestions for the amount someone should be shampooing their hair, or other thickening techniques? Is this generally what dry shampoo is used for, because I bought a product but am pretty confused as to what purpose it really serves.