TorontoMan

I quickly went on H&W site because they have a filter search system and looked up the results with 6k+ grafts

https://hassonandwong.com/hair-transplant-photos/?_sfm_number_of_grafts=6050+11000

Thats an idea of whats possible to achieve with high grafts and favorable donor characteristics 

I think many of the members will tell you its going to depend on your hair characteristics as well as donor capacity. If the hair is finer and of less quality, it will take more grafts to achieve a denser look. 

I think you're looking for a general answer right now, your best bet of course is to go to a good surgeon and get it estimated for yourself, but I'm going to say that it would be more than 7k grafts to get the coverage, don't know how thick that would be or how you define that for yourself. 

This confuses me so much. Are you a diffuse thinner by any chance and do you apply it throughout your entire scalp?

I got on it a year ago and although my problem currently is only at the front, I applied it throughtout my entire scalp. It didn't do much to thicken back anything but it may be serving as maintenance, although I can't tell because I'm also on fin. 

Recently got to a point where I considered coming off minoxidil because of the hassle and the belief that finasteride will maintain. 

SO my main question to you and anyone who reads this, at this point are even the good terminal hairs "dependant" on minoxidil after a year? Is it a big risk to come off?

Well what did Hasson tell you? Might be even cheaper for you to consider their clinic, even if you had forfeit your 1k deposit. 

6 minutes ago, giegnosiganoe said:

Finasteride targets the root cause of balding, slowing down or preventing future loss. It comes in a pill form so there's no hassle.

Minoxidil promotes hair growth, but doesn't do that much for most people. It's also a hassle as it comes in liquid/foam form, requiring you to apply it to your hair 1-2x/day, waiting for it to dry, dealing with the texture, etc.

Do you Recommend coming off minoxidil after a year if a person hasn’t seen results? Could you lose ground doing this ?

I agree with the previous comments. Waste of money

Try a lower dosage finasteride, maybe 0.25 every other day, and see how you tolerate. If you tolerate it well, you could decide to move the dosage up in the future. Try the dosage 6-12 months. ^ like mentioned previously you should try to see if you’re a Good responder to minox as well. 
 

take it easy, the shit you’re going through is no doubt hard, and you’re very young and it may feel like there’s no way to deal with this. Continue researching a doctor here, think you mentioned dr. Cinik, look up patient reviews. There are some good results from him here.
 

but your first order is to hold what you have. You still have a lot to hold on to, and your problem is solvable, keep your head up 

I believe you’re talking about H&W, and if you go with FUE with them I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. High graft yield, great results. 
 

im hoping that if you’re considering In Canada you’re only looking at rahal and H&w. Both produce great FUE results

Around 2,000 imo. Given your age, you’re likely a good candidate for high density. Get on virtual calls with doctors 

@bashley I recommend you search up a good trichologist, dermatologist or HT surgeon to take a closer look under a microscope. I say this because it looks like there is some thinning in your crown. You are under a harsh light so that plays a part, but its hard to discern whether or not its a natural cowlick. It seems to be slightly thin right around where you part it in your crown, and the parting hair covers the rest of your scalp so its hard to tell. 

A specialist will give you the closure you need. All in all, youre not in a bad situation at all, and if it is anything, you've caught it early enough to begin prevention. Hope that helps. 

I was quoted 2,500 grafts by 4 doctors on this forum for a much smaller area. Like someone mentioned, not the worst thing in the world, you may have to go in once more at a later time to fill in some density but they didn’t use up too many grafts in the first place. Just be patient 

any new updates?

36 minutes ago, ciaus said:

I admire your discipline and attention to detail. Have you had much success with your current regimen? -just maintaining, or maintaining and regrowth looking to improve? or trying to stop a new slide?

Sorry no personal experience, in fact had to google RU. Found a nice education overview for anyone else like me, has a mixing guide section, page link is below pasted text.

 

RU58841 powder mixing guide

RU58841 solution can be bought premade if you want. It will work exactly the same but if you want to mix it yourself and spare some money and have the extra flexibility that comes with it you will need to mix it. This is actually very simple to do and consists of the following steps:

1. Getting legit pure RU58841 powder
2. Having a scale that goes by 0.1 or even better 0.01 grams
3. Having your vehicle ready where you will mix the powder in. The powder is dissolved in ethanol so make sure the ethanol content is at least 30% and you should have no problems dissolving the RU58841 in the vehicle. For instance it can be mixed in Kirkland minoxidil, neogenic, P&G solution or K&B solution.
4. Every 1% of RU represents 10mg/ml. So let’s say you have a Kirkland bottle of 60ml and you want to make a 5% RU solution into this you want to have 50mg/ml x 60 ml = 3 gram. So you add 3 gram to the Kirkland minoxidil and shake it really well. Another example let’s say you want to mix a 3% RU concentration in 10ml of K&B solution you want 30mg/ml x 10ml = 300mg in total.

 

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from

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/news/treatments/ru58841/

Hey man thank you for that. 

I’ve only been on this protocol for about 8 months, And I sort of just started everything at the same time, so I really can’t tell you what’s working most effectively. I went through an initial shed and it halted. I do believe it is maintaining,  but don’t think I will get regrowth in the hairline and temples where I have most of my problem. I’ll be getting a ht to make up for that. the only thing I could tell you is that on this current plan I don’t have any problems. 
 

the hair masks are good to just moisturize the scalp, as I do get irritation from time to time. Microneedling is oddly therapeutic for me, so I just do it once a week and some research shows it helps absorb the topicals. Everything else is honestly not a hassle, so I’ll stick with it. Last thing I’m considering is adding a topical like RU at a low dose just to insure myself at the scalp. But Am wary of the potential for it to go systemic 

Hey everyone, 

Current regimen:

0.5mg fin/day

 minox 2x/day

1.5mm microneedle 1X a week

nizarol 1X a week 

biotin, vitamin d, msm 

hair masks 1X a week with coconut oil, castor oil, peppermint oil, pumpkins seed oil

I’m thinking of adding a RU at a low dose 1X a day. I would likely apply RU in the morning, and then do minoxidil at night. Does anyone have experience they could share In regards to RU? I would like to apply just a small dose of it, should I start at 10-20mg? 
 

also what are the best ways to mix it/apply it. Kevin mann once said he puts in mixture with stemoxidil and alfatrodial at a low dose and applies it throughout his scalp 

cheers 

Trust the instinct that got you here in first place. You want your front fixed. When Dr. Konior sees you he’s going to evaluate you and plan accordingly. So it wouldn’t be much different whether you had that done now or later. I’d be more concerned if you weren’t literally going to one of the best. 
 

this is an investment in yourself and it won’t go wasted 

On 8/1/2020 at 1:56 AM, fabofly said:

Is this the doctor on Bloor ? With the plastic face ?

Lmaoo yes 

On 7/29/2020 at 7:21 AM, Sijac09 said:

Some more progress photos today and really pleased with how it’s looking. Even if this is the final result, I’ll still be pleased.

However we all hope there will be that little more growth/thickening.

So currently I’m around 9 days away from the 7 month post op mark.

Let me know your thoughts guys?

last photo is with it styled

Amazing. You maintaining with meds ?

Ball is life 

10 minutes ago, voxman said:

I think you're just fine - you have 'neck' or 'nape' hair that simply runs into your 'scalp' hair.  It's just difficult to tell where one starts and the other stops - you are a perfect candidate for a cool longer style or daily shaving back there.   

Thank you for the reply. I did just message two surgeons over WhatsApp, and one explained that many men have poorer growth on the “lower occipital area” 

I’m a chronic over thinker so that’s part of the issue 😅

14 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Looks like a bit of retrograde, but it may also be that you shave the nape, so it’s shorter than the rest of the hair. Nape hair is finer, so if it’s shorter than the thicker hair in your donor, it can look balding, even though it isn’t. Do you get a taper fade?

I'm not entirely sure tbh with you because i just give my barber free range, and he just does whatever to my hair, but I think I'll ask him to not fade next time and maybe do an undercut to see how it will grow in next time. 

Hey wanted to get your opinion on my donor area 

My hair looks like it’s slightly thinner on the nape and a little more on the right side. I do however get 0.5 fade when I cut my hair so it could just be that it hasn’t grown in yet. Something I should pay attention to ?

Think you just have fine hair, and bit of a swirl in the back imo 

Confused about this as well. How is it possible that otherwise strong native hair would be effected by coming of minoxidil? How in that case do ppl come off it successfully if they had to?

Haven’t had my surgery yet, but my post op instructions say 1 month 

51 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Nah man, you have a normal male hairline, probably better than 95% of other 30 year old men. 

You basically have Ronaldo hair, which 100% of the guys on this board would kill for, I’d do unforgivable things to have that hair lol.

He does also look Portuguese too. 
 

and yeah I second that you’re in a good place