Badresults

Honestly the whole experience with Bhatti is over me. When I used to ask him about my status or result of surgery ( before I posted here) he's reply used to be 'I don't know why it's like this" 'I don't know what to tell you' etc. No solid or detailed explanation or any effort being put to investigate or even ask me to go on Skype to take a look. Only I would send him my pictures monthly. Anyway the reason why I decided to write or share what happened between the 1 year plus now is not about my result, I know it was a lousy job. When I consulted other hair transplant surgeon, they doubted that 2376 graft really was planted and asked key question like was I awake when the extraction of graft being done etc. Also, I remember someone commented on a different post here where he did not know that the staff would give him a full anaesthesia , this actually happened to me as well. I was told it was an antibiotic before surgery and next minute I'm out sleeping and when I'm awake, the surgery almost done.

Wow, I didn't know Medilinks did that as well. They was on my list before I went to Bhatti. I guess most of patients should really careful when selecting the doctors from certain countries now.

My employers did not get involved or want to get involved. What happened was, Shera who is the Bhatti representative searched me on social media and found my employers and wrote them an email stating that I'm bad mouthing the clinic image and threatened to my former employers that if I don't stop he will further go and spoil the company image. My employers was cool and replied him, that it is my personal issue and it's within my right to do so as I'm not doing anything illegal and stop bugging them. That time, I did not want to continue writing in this blog because I don't want things to get messier which is why I stopped for almost a year.

Thanks Gatsby, I am currently on finestride and minoxidil oral and tropical. The crown, and area where no surgery was performed has definitely thicken up and improved over the time. I guess this is because of the finestride and minoxidil. However the area where the procedure was done, no whatsoever differences. The result is the same as how when I posted the first picture here. And yes you are right, I should have realised that the clinic is just pushing me to have the surgery without even going through more details on the other options or medical history. Before the surgery day, there was a medical check up done in Darling Buds clinic, and I was told it was to determine if I'm a suitable candidate for procedure or not. However later I realised it was just a routine HIV blood check, because they don't accept any patient with HIV. Which was fair enough, but what I was told it was to determine if I'm a right candidate or not.

Tell me about it, but to be honest I was kind of surprised that the clinic can behave so unprofessional way.

I can try to get the email from my former employers which Shera sent to them last year. Anyway, if my intention was to lie, I wouldn't have waited for almost 1 year plus to come back on this forum. Also, I'm not sure why that shera has to get involved, when I did not consult or ask his opinion regarding Dr.Bhatti. I went direct to Dr. Bhatti therefore I don't see a reason someone from UK need to come and defend Bhatti.

Hello everyone, first of all I hope everyone is safe and sound now during the global pandemic. I'm sure everyone would spend their time now doing all the research for their future hair transplant once the global travel restriction has been lifted in your respective countries. Now the main reason I'm writing on this post after almost a year or why I'm starting a conversation here is because I know there was no any update on my procedure after all the whole discussion or what @DarlingBudsClinic did, or what would the conclusion, or perhaps did suddenly the bad transplant turned out to be a good transplant. As everyone can see I started this post last year, and I shared my whole details of procedure and my results, and what did @DarlingBudsClinic replied me when I asked them about my failed results. I've been blamed that I was not a good candidate, I had first failed results, I did not do all the required test before consulting @DarlingBudsClinic (when its a doctor responsibility to examine the patient first before accepting them) All those statements you can read from @Shera post earlier. Now, the main reason I want to share why I have been quiet or not posting anything here is because when I started this tread and I was getting all the questions from other blog members, reply, @DarlingBudsClinic and @Shera did not know what to exactly reply me and what they could only do was to search me on social media and find my employers and start threatening them. @Shera also sent an email to my employer last year threatening them that if I don't stop disclosing all the details and writing on this blog, he would try to spoil the company image as well as mine. Well my bosses did reply him that they are not bothered at that time what the running dog of @DarlingBudsClinic which was @Shera wants to do, but I decided that I did not want to drag my employers in and I stopped. So the question why now? Because I'm no longer attached with the company anymore, and I'm running my own business which mean I can write as much as I want. So @Shera if you want, you could write to me to threaten me? Since this is what @DarlingBudsClinic and their representatives do best beside solving their patients issue PROFESSIONALLY. My question to the blog admin and members here, is this the right way how hair transplant physician treat their patients when their procedure fail? Is this all threatening attitude acceptable? If it is not why are this doctors and representative still allowed on this forum? If this could happen to me and I'm sure they can go and do the same other patients who comes out with their bad results. This forum is meant to be where patients could share their journey, experiences with others not where unethical doctors with their running dogs find a way to shut the patients off. Lastly, this maybe what I've experienced with @DarlingBudsClinic and I really hope if anyone had same problem with other doctors do let everyone know so it could safe us from all this mess from this unethical and unprofessional doctors.

@Nebulosity Everything you mention what happened with you and your experience is spot on. I agree with you 100% as I've experience the same. The only difference is that he did not communicate through Skype with me. When I used to ask him more questions when I realize his surgery is not working, hairline way lower, and there is no density at all he just stop replying and when i push for answer he ask come for repair if you can travel with 2 months notice. My question here is to all the other Doctors why are you allowing Bhatti and his representative to be here still? Don't you think that you should start creating a topic with Doctors with high risk of failures in this blog so future patient who come here with hope to get best results can really get the help they are looking for? The purpose of this site is to help patients get the best service and results, not to promote doctors with no ethic like Darling Buds and Bhatti! Anyway I would be posting my results in few other blogs, and sending my experience to Youtubers.

Question, why are you on Dutastride when you’re already on finestride?

Hello @Monet do see my results from Darling Buds Dr. Bhatti, and you might think 10 times if you even want to consider him. You can check my post on the other side of forum, under patient review and results topic. Hope you make a wise decision. Good luck in your HT

I fully agree with you on finestride. I agree with Bhatti , hoping that I would I get the result as what he promised knowing if I did not follow what he told he would turn around and put the whole blame on me. However the Dr Bhatti has been a major let down for me.

Hi @Looking for HT, yes I was prescribe finestride, for 6 months. However I’m still taking it now. What Bhatti said was with finestride and minoxidil, they hair growth would be up to 90% success and without it would only be 50%. Logically, hair transplant shouldn’t be dependent on finestride, but that’s what the doctor said.

Hi @Looking for HT unfortunately the doctor @darlingbuds, @bhatti and @Shera has been quiet as you can see from the blog and post here. Well, what can you expect from them other than keeping quiet? Anyone who reads this and come here should really think twice if they want to go Darling Buds and Tejinder Bhatti. Before procedure they would “promise heaven and earth” after surgery they go quiet.

I’m really curious what do @Shera and Dr Bhatti along with Darling Buds team think.

Thank you. This is why I feel there is no sense of responsibility and ethic from Darling Buds and Dr.Bhatti team. Instead of being responsible, find the cause of bad result, he’s attacking me and claim that I’m making him look bad. I’m still curious how @Shera came to this conclusion.

I had the procedure with the Same doctor few months earlier than yours. August 2018 to be exact. And you can see my results on my post. Im not sure what has he been communicating to you but I think you shouldn’t jump on the repair with him if he suggest you to do so until he really explain to you what went wrong.

If I don't hear from them again, I would definitely do so.

Well it is obviously he is trying to avoid more question being raised which eventually other prospect of his client would read this. Basically trying to hide away and would only response in private. I understand why is he doing so. But I would not stop anyone going to Darling Buds with Dr Bhatti,but be cautious of their over promises, criticizing other doctors job, claiming that he would 100% deliver the results and when things go other way he only replies with one liner email.

I'm not sure he knows the logic he's talking. I have replied on all his stated points.

Shera, I'm not sure if I should be replying this to you since you have already make it clear that you not be responding to any other post again after your last post. I'm from Malaysia. I had my first surgery in June 2016 with 2000 grafts of FUE procedure, done locally. Before meeting Dr Bhatti, I did not know about this blog or any other blogs on hair transplant. After my first unsuccessful procedure, i tried looking up to online, mainly on youtube with sample of surgeons work and that's when i came across Dr Bhatti. I would say I got it wrong with my choice with Dr Bhatti with his ''misleading videos'' and over promises through emails. When I met Dr Bhatti in Chandigargh, he is the one who gave this blog details and few other blogs where I should post up my failed first procedure story online. He claim the doctor did not do the right job and he is not qualified therefore he should be responsible to give me full refund. After my surgery, I contacted the first doctor and we had few discussion and he agreed to fully compensate me. We went into chronological check on how the procedure was. He took more than 12 hours for my procedure for only 2000 grafts. My first graft extraction was done at 9.30 and completed at 12.30. However only at 4.30 - 5pm the planting started and lasted for untill 11.45pm. Most likely the graft did not survive and I did tell this to Bhatti before my procedure. He is also known for having few procedure at same time which I learned latter. After agreeing to compensate he wanted me to sign a non disclosure agreement that I would not disclose anything more and he would pay me fully. Now I would reply all our points below. I think you are trying so hard to defend your doctor, which I understand as you being his patient advisory and it would hit him and yourself from a potential patient from UK or North America read this. Badresults, firstly can I ask where you had your first surgery? As mentioned above it was done locally in Malaysia. What made you choose that particular surgeon? I had one of my friend who was also experimenting hair loss had a procedure done with him. He had a decent results knowing his hair loss was more severe than mine.Only different on his part that his surgery was completed in 5.5 hours and he was the only patient that day, which all this I found out later. What were the reasons given for the failure of your first surgery? The doctor initially said he don't know. After my surgery with Bhatti I went back and explain to him that I had a repair and there could be on how the surgery went and how long it took cause the surgery to fail. He admitted that and refunded me fully Why did you not feel the need to name and shame that particular doctor and clinic? I have explain this earlier as per above. Also to get a clearer overall picture of your case, can you post clear pictures before and immediately after this first surgery clearly showing the implanted area and your donor area post surgery. This will help determine whether a pattern of bad growth exists with both surgeries and the donor that Dr Bhatti had at his disposal. Unfortunately i do not have the first procedure picture with me, because the doctor refused to share with me. However my condition before the surgery with him was the same as how my surgery before Bhatti. The picture is on the first post. His coverage is the same as what Bhatti did, the only difference is that Bhatti lowered my hairline slightly, which now looks horrible due to the lack of growth. Also, I'm not trying to be clever here; it clearly is another procedure where your implanted grafts have not grown out, that is not questionable. - I'm not the doctor here. Dr Bhatti as a doctor and as how he claim he is the specialist he should know that I had the first failed surgery, and he should have done a proper due diligence before accepting my case. I was very transparent with him that what I went through. All he's feedback was he can deliver the full density result with 2200 graft (which later he claimed he extracted more) It is a good move to see a dermatologist and I'm a little surprised that you did not see one after your first failed surgery where any issues with your scalp could have been identified and addressed. - Amazing you are asking me this. So who is the doctor and patient here? Isn't this the doctor's responsibility that he should perform a proper check before accepting my case? Or he could have asked me to go to a dermatologist before going for a 2nd surgery? Why did he not think on to this? And why he's patient advisory is asking me to see a dermatologist and not himself? Or was he more interested to close the sale? Have you even considered that your first surgery could be to blame for your subsequent failure? - I'm not sure because i'm not the doctor here. Which doctor would ask their patient what could be the reason of their own failed job? Isn't that what doctor's suppose to do before taking the case and operating them? Why didn't the doctor do a proper case study before accepting a repair job? Or you are saying that patient should check on themselves before going for a repair? If that is so doctors should shut down the consultation part, right? Your implantation area certainly would have been in a worse condition than in your first surgery, this is why it’s important to see clear pictures of that surgery immediately post op so this theory can be discarded. My implantation area is the same before and after surgery from first surgery as how my picture above . Basically what was planted did not grow. You should have allied your expectations with the evidence clearly in front of you. One failure doesn't guarantee success in a second surgery regardless of the doctor, no surgery is guaranteed to work as you clearly now know. - first of all, I was not expecting a miracle from Bhatti. I told him himself that I would be happy with 50% of gowth, i'm not hoping to have a full dense hair because i understand results can be different. If one failure doesn't guarantee a success, then why din't Bhatti tell me this earlier? Why did he tell that he can fix it? Did you even speak to him before you raise this point? Also, it could be that you are just not a good candidate due to your physiological make up. Maybe your scalp just won't take new grafts or is damaged from the first surgery. These are all ifs and buts but the reality is there is no straight forward answer to a transplant failure. Name a surgeon who has a 100% success rate on a virgin scalp never mind one that is in for repair. - I would expect the doctor to tell me if i'm the right or wrong candidate, he should have known this as he was made aware of my history but why did he commit that he could repair me? Why did he not advise me that the result could be otherwise? I agree that no surgeons would ever have 100% success rate, but if the surgeon has some responsibility he would admit his mistake and take the responsibility. Before posting this post, i have been asking Dr. Bhatti what are the cause etc and he can only tell me he don't know, each human body work differently and ask to come for a repair and hope for the best. Now let me ask you, if a surgeons tell you this would you even let him touch you? Another reason could be the technique and the surgery itself. I know some of you will be delighted that I've finally come to this point but if that is the case then how do you explain the temple points growing out just fine. That would clearly point to a problem with your scalp. - This is something which I have asked Bhatti, and he was so sure the FUE was the right technique. He claims his approach of FUE has always been a success, which now i doubt so. Also, i came across other cases over here which had same failure case, and it is not only me here. The doctors reply in this case is pretty accurate, seriously what more can you do apart from go to another doctor and document your story from the start so we can follow it and if it doesn't work this time I guess you owe Dr Bhatti a massive apology. - How can I owe Bhatti an apology? So if I had another failed job i should owe him one? Also what is funny that you mention that he's reply is pretty accurate, let me remind you again he has been telling me he don't know what is the cause of my failed procedure, each human body works differently and he can only hope for the best if i go for a repair with him.. so is this a good a accurate reply? On the other hand if it does work you have a strong case for at least a partial refund from Dr Bhatti. I would be more than happy to take this up for you. - I think he should compensate me fully now itself. For what he commit and delivered just proves that it's failed job. He should man up and have some ethic to compensate me, which I know he won't. He has not even called me once to speak of my results when he know it's a failed job. What kind of responsible doctor is that? And again, he's right; if it fails a 3rd time from another doc then there's no point in going on. Words I'm sure you don't want to hear but you should. - I would not jump into another surgery now. Dr Bhatti admitted that his job failed, and he ask me to come for a complementary repair. However he seems to be not interested to investigate more and understand the cause of failure, just wants to shut me down by trying one more round. This is not an exchange of goods where we can just go on and allow anyone to experiment on yourself. To round off, if the surgery was your first surgery with Dr Bhatti then you would have a strong case, but as it's a total failure and a repair from a previous unknown doctor's surgery then it was always going to be uncertain. Seeing all the successful repairs Dr Bhatti had previously completed and documented you mitigated the risk by going to him but it didn't work and you should have at least had that thought at the back of your mind. -Back of my mind for what now? Actually Dr Bhatti should have thought that this is a repair case and he should have known what need to be done for the repair? Never once he suggested me to go a biopsy before surgery when he know that i had a failure from first procedure. Funny that you are asking me to do the biopsy test when the doctor did not even this. Also you say you did your correspondence all through email, the fact is you had direct personal contact with Dr Bhatti throughout and no third party. You were also free to skype him as many patients do. I'm not really sure what else you expected. You have tried to twist this to make Dr Bhatti look bad. It will be interesting what your thoughts will be when your "elite" surgeon talks to you through one of his many secretaries. - Never once he told me that I can contact him through skype or introduce him to his advisory or secretary to arrange a call. How can i twist this to make him look bad? In what way? You should start being more neutral and not trying so hard to defend him. I'm still curious how am I making him to look bad. To conclude you should go to that "elite" surgeon but you should be aware there are no guarantees. Prior to any surgery you should visit a few dermatologists and see whether they can find any underlying issue for the failure of nearly 4000 grafts to grow in 2 separate attempts from 2 differing techniques. - Isn't this what Bhatti should have thought before he operates me? Why are you suggesting this and not the doctor? I do understand your upset and I really hope it works out for you the next time.

This is the exact expectations I had from him to at least give me a realistic explanation, and not with a reply where he’s actually not interested to do so, and tell me repair with hope to have good result only. I would be consulting a dermatologist here before deciding to go for repair and I would definitely go for a reputable doctor now:

Thanks for the feedback. I would definitely approach a dermatologist first before going for a repair.

If he has some ethic and brave enough to admit his wrong be responsible he would provide the full refund. Unfortunately hes kind of who would walk away and hope the matter gets forgotten.

As expected I know he would not speak up. Each month I send the progress update, he’s reply was I don’t know and each human body works differently. If he has an ethic he would refund and admit his mistake and not just keep saying I don’t know. i really hope anyone who consider going to him think 10 times. He’s good at criticising other doctors work and say he’s job never fails, but if it fails he washes his hand away or maybe offer a repair with only saying hope for the best.

I agree and now I have doubts now if the number of grafts were taken actually really 2376. Because initially during the first consultation at the clinic he proposed he only need 1500 to cover the area and don’t want to over harvest the donor area. However I insist that I want to go higher based on his email during early days of consultation and I know for sure that 1500 grafts can’t do much. He has mention that he don’t want to give a refund, being very irresponsible and he expects me to go for repair when he can’t commit to fixing with better results. I don’t think he takes me seriously because which patient will agree for a surgery when the doctor says I can hope for the best only.