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It’s not the exact DHI. The DHI method where the choi implanter pen is being used and there is no slit opening procedure on the implanted area. I believe they called it as DHT where there’s still a slit opening procedure needs to be done.

Just a question, why do patients from Eugenix have quick growth, most of their growth can be seen in 3 months and most of other clinics only see their growth after 3-4 months. What difference is this clinic doing?

@California First of all I'm not sure why are you trying to to explain all the 'positive' stuff about Dr. Bhatti which you've known since 2011. It is more like a damage control effort and hoping that no one should judge @Dr Tejinder Bhatti based on his bad results or what his patient representative @Shera has been doing. Anyway your response it's still better than how @Shera responded last year. Perhaps if Dr. Bhatti knew how to runs and educate his patient representative in a proper ethical way, we won't be having this whole discussion and perhaps future legal issues. Now, let me ask you something, I believe you live in the U.S, do you think that if in U.S if there was a similar case where a patient representative threatened, blackmailing a patient and their employers the doctor and clinic would have just gotten away with an appology and the patient rep would just been fired? That's all, case closed? The Doctor and the clinic would have been hung to dry and they can never practice again and I'm sure you know this. Also, according to Indian consumer rights and legal he is for sure responsible now. Let me quote you on your statement from post above.. 'Yes, it would be his responsibility to severe his ties with me if I really crossed the line. My fault cannot automatically be "judged" as Dr. Bhatti's fault. ' In what logic that the statement applies? @Dr Tejinder Bhatti as the owner of Darling Buds@5 River Hair Transplant Chandigarh India, is fully responsible for all his staff action when it comes to the business affair. He is the face for his clinic! Whether they are in India, US, Asia, Europe or Africa, as long they are working for him, he is responsible for every action of his team as they are representing him. It can be his patient representative, cleaner, surgery technician, he is responsible. For all the good results of surgeries Dr.Bhatti gets the credit, so when there is such serious matter as this or bad results, why isn't Dr.Bhatti's shouldn't be responsible? Also, you should ask yourself a honest question here, would you go back to the same doctor who did a bad result on your first procedure then his team black mailing you and your employer? Would go to back to him for a repair? Let’s say if it’s not a HT surgery now we are talking and it’s something else, maybe you sent your car for a service and all this happened later on, would you Still send your car to the same mechanic second time?? I think you and everyone knows the answer.

Yea, like I said earlier, if this is only about a failed procedure then it’s not fair to remove any doctor because then how are you going to justify the successful job? That’s just simple straightforward logic which everyone including myself as patient would think. But here, there’s more than a failed job and bad transplant we are talking about. It is about how the doctor handled the whole complaints against his failed procedure, how his representative handled their patients, black mailing their patients ,and their employers, disclosing patients details about their procedure to employers With the reason above, he should not even allowed to practice ! That’s a serious crime which has been committed. And logically if a doctor and co commit those crime and action, how are we going to protect other patients by having him in list of recommended doctors? Because this can happen again , and all what he would do is put the blame on someone else. Shera is just a temporary scapegoat

Yes @LonelyGraft it is just a damage control move. In real he would still be working with @Dr Tejinder Bhatti . If you see the way they work and operate is they would try to shut anyone off who expose them and they don’t wish to be accountable on all their doing. Whether it’s the doctor or rep it’s the same. They work together. They have threatened patients on this forum, and what makes you think they won’t do that in their own country if they can do that from those abroad and on forums? One thing is yet we are not getting a clear answer is why is this doctor still a recommended doctor in this forum. This is the doctor who wants to perform a repair or had performed a repair without knowing the cause of his own failed job. literally disgusting.

OMG @sunnybadhair I just came across your experiences post. You literally had same experience with mine with same doctor. Bad results, even with twice surgery from same doctor. Lucky I did not opt to take the repair offer from him, worst you paid for both procedure. And you have been threaten as well. How on earth is this doctor still practicing and doing surgeries is just WOW. If Bhatti can continue to doing hair transplant then anyone can become a hair transplant doctor. Lets not even think about their character how they threatens and black mail the patients. Did you show the black mailing messages to Melvin?

Wow, so I’m not the only one who has been blackmailed by Shera and Darling Buds. This has happened to other patients as well. Is this still an ‘impulsive action’ @Dr Tejinder Bhatti @Melvin-Moderator? This clearly proved that the doctor knows everything about how their representatives behaved otherwise why would Shera offer a 1k offer to remove the thread ? Also isn’t this a backstage deal which Shera tried offering to this patient? @Dr Tejinder Bhatti ? Now the most important, why is this doctor offering a repair without knowing the cause of failure?

Exactly, this is why I said, banning the username on this forum is just irrelevant, it would not change anything or make much different. Now, how do you protect other members here, and future patients? Logically by removing the doctor from the recommended list. Why? Because, this is the only way you can protect your members by showing that this site only associate with Doctors who hold accountability and with integrity. It gives hope and faith to any future patients. Also, it would only be fair for other doctors on the list also. Tomorrow, let's say other Doctor sort of did what as Dr. Bhatti and his team did, and someone else faced the same problem, would we just banned their username and patient rep? Would it be fair? Then if you remove the doctor from here, he would say, why wasn't any action taken against Dr. Bhatti. This is the logic.

@Pyrat If this whole discussion is ONLY about the results of my surgery from @Dr Tejinder Bhatti then yes I agree, it's is not fair to ban the doctor from this forum. As he also had a decent results for other patients so it wouldn't justify banning the doctor for few bad results. I'm also aware and know that no doctors would give 100% success in all their procedure in every cosmetic procedure, not only hair transplants. HOWEVER, this is not only about the results of his procedure we are talking, but the way he handled, and what his medical representative did. Black mailing a patient, their employer is an unethical action. It shows the character of an individual and their organisation, because the patient is representing the clinic and he's not working alone. If this is brought out of this forum in a legal course, he's Hair transplant centre would have been banned for life to practice. It's a CRIMINAL act which was done! Banning a username would not justify this whole action. Anyone can change a username, with a different name and come back becoming the patient rep. We all know how it works. The blog should sends a loud message to everyone that it stands for the right of patients and it would not tolerate such behaviours and with this it would give more confidence to anyone out there who come here to seek support in future.

@Panamera13 Yes, like you said yesterday, most doctors don't offer refund, but if anyone within their staff trying blackmailing, then anyone would offer refund. Question to everyone, if refund is not within their policy, is blackmailing and harrasement allowed? How is this Doctor still in the recommeded list of doctor is mind blowing. I would wait for the lockdown to end in India, and once everything gets back to normal I would speak to few legal representative in India. Luckily, I have family members in India.

@HTHopeThis is what I'm trying to saying since 1 week ago. This is not only now about the bad results, but this crossed all the lines and limit what a surgeon and his co did. And the only feedback about how his patient representative behaved, he can only say he don't know and according to him all his patients detail is available to his patient rep. If this is how someone practice a medical service, then it's a clear warning for anyone in future to avoid Dr. Bhatti or even anyone who does this.

@Panamera13 the reason he contacted my employer was to warn them that if I don't stop posting about my procedure here, he would go ahead and tarnish the company image and reputation together with mine. As I was the head of company in my country, I did not want to further drag the matter in. This is why I went missing for almost a year from this site. In a simple word, he was blackmailing my employer to get them to stop me from further writing here and sharing my results.

@Melvin-Moderator why is my post on this thread being hidden?

Wow, your 1 year results in Aramed is exactly the same as my 2nd procedure result with Darling Buds@5 Rivers Hair Transplant Centre in Chandigarh India. You are lucky you had a good repair done on your 2nd procedure. However it is frightening to have gone through the whole experience during your first surgery. I had gone through a nightmare on my 2nd procedure with blackmailing by the doctors team when I shared my results here. Anyway wish you the best and keep rocking the new look

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti If Shera had all the access and he clearly abuse his role here it shows that there is lack of integrity, SOP and security within the the whole Darling Buds Centre. It happened with me now and it could happen tomorrow or next 5 years to someone else. However we are in real world where abuse, blackmails, threatening in business dealt with a right channel and I'm sure you know this as well. Let me give you a real life example when Boeing had their 737 Max plane faulty, no one sued the engineer, but a legal action taken against Boeing. Anyway if you had handle this case properly 1 year ago, and your patient representative did not black mail me and my former employers, we would not be having this conversation now. If you could really provide the medical support, I would have for sure go back for repair, as the main thing what I wanted was a decent results. The only reason I asked for a refund and refuse your offer for touch up because you could not convince me medically why the whole procedure failed. Again, your answers was I don't know and let's hope for the best. Let me ask you, is this fair for me ? Now, let me tell you the trauma I had to go through after your staff who blackmailed my employers. Although my employers was supportive that time, but it did effect me personally. After all this happened, how would someone trust you? If you were in my shoe would you allow me to do any surgery on you?

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti First of all it is a joke that you are saying that I'm trapping you on whatever you said here. I'm only clearing my doubts, asking you questions, and pointing out all the flip flop statements you are making from very start and how are you trying to avoid answering the IMPORTANT questions. Now look at below which I asked you about your patients representative leaking out or having your patients confidential details. Why are you not answering or making it crystal clear on what has been asked? See below: Are you trying to say all your patient representative was regardless where they are based at have access to all your patient enquiry which comes in DIRECTLY TO YOU ON YOUR EMAIL? You know I sent all the enquiry directly to your email and not through, website, social media? So all your patient representative can access any patient personal details and black mail them or threat them? That is possible right based on what you are saying? Is this how you protect your patient confidential details? Is this even legal in India under medical practice? Do you know that with this statement of yours you have broke the legal law, forget about this blog, do you think this justification is valid if there is a case against you legally? If you think it's ok, then you definitely breaking every law. Perhaps you could answer this to legal and consumer right soon. Now let me make it clear why I said you, and your team and everyone who thinks that you don't know what Shera was about to do is purely a FAKE LIE. On June 14 2019, Shera posted a reply here on my post that he clearly don't know who I am, or where I am from and even mentioned that I went directly to you and did not consult any patient rep. If he had all your patients details at that time he don't have to say this. You can read this yourself on this thread 1st page. So at that time, he did not know who I was, before even replying to me, but you saying all your patient reps has every patient of yours details. So what is what now? Do you know by you making this kind of statement it put every doctors in India reputation at risk? Every patient who is considering India as one of the destination for their procedure would think 1000 times now even if other doctors are not behaving in this unethical way? Everyone from abroad would have doubts over the integrity of doctors in India and I know this is really not fair but this is what you are showing. Now goes to the part on the results, if you think graft testing is only for severe cases, why did you have to mention above that this is what you would suggest? I am only quoting what you said. And out of 10 patients you consult, you accept 3 the average, so I believe I would have been in the 3 patients category which made you thought you could do a good job, and we all know its a bad job from you. So having said that, what kind of accountability that you hold? If you don't know the cause how can you offer a touch up? Just doing an experiment? Also, are you still going to work with Shera after all this mess?

@Jhonny As you can see from all the post and @Dr Tejinder Bhatti admission, His patient representative @Shera sent a black mailing email to my former employers asking them to stop me from writing here and talking about my hair transplant result. If I did not do so, he would start tarnishing the company image and mine and he wants them to stop me ASAP. This is what @Shera wrote. And what is amazing @Dr Tejinder Bhatti is trying to justify his patient rep action here. Which in real world, anyone who does that face a prison.

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti Most people coming from abroad have got baseline tests done and so this is never a problem. Also if they have skin conditions, and we assume that they are truthful, they would have taken clearance from a local dermatologist for a hair transplant. This would have been conveyed to the hair transplant surgeon. Question to you which I believe every non Indian patients or future patient who comes here would want to note it. Do you SPECIFICALLY ask your patients from abroad to do all the test and get clearance from dermatologist? Or you just accept it based on assumption? How can you 'assume' anything in your medical practice? I have never heard of any medical doctor would just assume anything without a proper test report done if he think it should. Also, yesterday you yourself mentioned that you only understood my case now. So..? Now, before you accept my case why didn't you ask me to go for all the test. As you are aware this is a repair case so you would need more details before accepting it? So why did you just blindly accept? Quick buck? You did not even spend 30 minutes looking at my head the day when you met me before surgery. It was barely 10 minutes, draw hairline, asked what type of results do I want, and how many grafts would it take, and ask me to go for blood test and your driver drops me off. This was what you REALLY did. Not like what you talk on all your videos which you religiously post , nothing was done like that

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti He was an office employee who worked for the office and collects, collates and marks mails and other queries on social media for me to answer. He is privy to all information of international clients other than North America and Australia. Are you trying to say all your patient representative was regardless where they are based at have access to all your patient enquiry which comes in DIRECTLY TO YOU ON YOUR EMAIL? You know I sent all the enquiry directly to your email and not through, website, social media? So all your patient representative can access any patient personal details and black mail them or threat them? That is possible right based on what you are saying? Is this how you protect your patient confidential details? Is this even legal in India under medical practice? Do you know that with this statement of yours you have broke the legal law, forget about this blog, do you think this justification is valid if there is a case against you legally? If you think it's ok, then you definitely breaking every law. Perhaps you could answer this to legal and consumer right soon. And would you still continue working with Shera? its a mystery why it did not grow like was anticipated. The scarring was there but not dense as is common in repair cases & in this condition we grow hair routinely well. And he says he took Finasteride, so I am not sure what it actually was. He should be taken up next only after test grafting With your own admission here, that it is mystery, yet you asked me come in for a touch up without going into further details to investigate it? And hope for the best?Or you were just not interested to spend more time in finding out why and what went wrong? Since August 2018 - June 2019, have you even suggested me to go on Skype for you to take a closer look, no! I had to send you all the pictures monthly to ask you what is going wrong , and you don't have any answers. So you still think you provided support? I don't know if this is what you call a support? Also, before you took up my case, you told me you could fix it. So why didn't you suggest me to do all the graft testing before coming to you? Isn't this what you as a Doctor should be doing? Or do patient have to figure out how to diagnose themselves and show the result to the doctor? Do you really think everyone is so gullible?

I don't think the refund now should have any NDA attached to it. The refund should be an action taken by the doctor after what has transpired. Now we are not only talking on the horrible results BUT with the black mailing, disclosing patient confidential details to patient rep. Yes every hair transplant patient agree that there is no money-back guarantees, but does every hair transplant doctor and their team threaten and blackmail the patient employers? Does every transplant doctor can share their patients personal details without their consent? Is this justified? Also, How did Bhatti's rep got my personal details? why is this not being answered?

@Panamera13 exactly this is what I have been saying, why do a repair from same doctor when he himself could not explain the cause of failure or made any effort to know more. But over here I've been told that everyone deserve a second chances, which is mind blowing to know anyone could even suggest that a doctor deserve a second chance when the doctor do not know the cause of his own job failure. On the question which you asked, no I don't have any skin conditions. The hair did grow on my right temple, but on frontal part there is just a thin hairline, just as how in the picture I posted. My crown area is all good, and I don't think I need a job done on it. Only the frontal hair line. I was also told by one of the doctor who saw my results, its likely that it is not 2376 graft planted, much lesser around 1500 only which is why the density is low. However I can't take his word 100% until I get my self shown to few other surgeons,

@Melvin-Moderator I have sent you the emails yesterday and I'm you have seen the email where @Dr Tejinder Bhatti talks about defending himself. This is just before @Shera sent out that email. Also, as you mentioned before, he claim he was in touch with up to recent, did he manage to show you the proof? Also the million dollar question, did you ask @Dr Tejinder Bhatti how my personal details reached to @Shera. He was not my patient rep, he did not know me, so do I. You would get all your answers and you would have a clearer picture with just 1 question.

@Panamera13 this is what amaze me. If you look at his reply, he is trying to justify the action of his patient representative. Does he not know that only he can leak out a patient details to patient representative, who didn't know me. Also, to answer your question, I have been asking him the same question before I started this thread 1 year ago, what went wrong? And he simply can't answer me and just ask me to come for repair and hope for the best. He himself doesn't know how would he answer. Also from his email above, he only understood my case now that is after 2 years of surgery, and when I made it public. I can't say what went wrong, because I was asleep 99% of time during asleep. So someone could have handled it differently or he could have assigned his tech to do whole procedure etc.. Which I don't know. Which is so strange, because he did not inform me prior to surgery that it would be a general anaesthesia.

Exactly. I wonder how can @Dr Tejinder Bhatti claim he don't know what @Shera was doing. Did he not know that only he had my personal details? How much more of lie he wants to fabricate. Oh and yes, @Dr Tejinder Bhatti is black mailing what you meant when you told me that you would have to 'defend yourself' when I said I've been asked by bloggers, or youtubers about my procedure from you? I'm still surprised how is @Dr Tejinder Bhatti still a recommended doctor over here.

@Dr Tejinder Bhatti Finally after numerous post here and email sent to moderator finally you came out and replied, which look more like you are being forced to. Just like how when Shera replied last year which was the only reply came from your side and said that he is not going to talk anymore after that (I'm sure you have read his post) and then that's when the threatening email went out. We know when shit hit the fans and we have to come out from hiding. So let's address all your points one by one which you have mentioned here and let's see how clear have you made to this community here and to myself. 1. There is no doubt that Shera acted very impulsively in sending that mail. And I do not think he did the right thing. - So since you don't agree with him sending out the email and you know it is not the right thing, are you still going to work with him? Are you cutting all ties with him? What action have you took after what he did? If you think that the temporary suspension only on this blog is fine, then it's irrelevant. In a real world, out there if someone did this he would face a legal consequences. 2. After all such an e mail is only sent very impulsively and there must have been a provocation which made him act so. I am sure he felt bad about it later. Shera surely did not consult me before posting the mail. Now this is best part, what could have been the 'provocation' that lead to what Shera did? By me posting my results here? Or by me replying to each of his point here, which made him angry? Now, question to you and @Melvin-Moderator, How did Shera know about my real name? How did Shera know about my email address? How did Shera managed to find me on social media platform? How could he have all this detail when I have never spoken to him before this or known about his existence, so how? This could only be possible if he was given the details, and @Dr Tejinder Bhatti only you have this details because I was your patient. So you still claim you don't know? Do you really think everyone is so gullible? Or do you need a real lawyer to question you this? If you gave the details, wasn't you aware that why is he asking? And din't you know it is illegal to share patient details without their consent? 3. Not that I have not been in touch with the patient personally. We have several e-mail exchanges to-and-fro and I have supported him throughout the journey. Your several email exchange was last on June 2019. And before that, I would only send you questions on why is result so bad, and I'm sure you know what was your reply been. You yourself didn't;t know what went wrong, or all you could say you don't know and lets try for second time and hope for the best, if it's still doesn't work you would not attempt a 3rd time. Do you think with a reply and answer as if you would want to do an experiment on your patient it would convince them? And is that a support you called? 4. Cases do have outcomes like in his case and I have informed him that if ever he wishes, he could come over and I will do the repair. Yes everyone know that not all surgery will turn out good. You offered a repair on me, but you could not answer me a simple thing, what went wrong and why it did not work. You could only tell me you would hope for the best the next round and if it's still doesn't work you won't try 3rd round. This is what you told me, and with this do you think anyone in their right mind will agree to go back to the same doctor ever? 5. His is a redo case and one cannot always correctly assess the level of scarring when a patient is from abroad. (Also, in such cases 100% satisfaction never happens, it not being virgin skin.) I do now understand his case well and empathise with him fully. So you are saying that you could not access the level of scarring from previous surgery I believe when the patient is abroad. So question, why didn't you access me before the surgery when we met in your clinic? you only spent 10 minutes looking at me and asked me to do a blood check and come tomorrow morning for surgery. If you know there is no 100% satisfaction why did you accept the case? And on top of it, you only understand my case now well enough and not before accepting my case for surgery? So why didn't you inform before I land in India that the result won't be 100%. What you said if you take finestride you could expect up to 90% growth. So why did you accept a case which you did not fully understand? 6. We do not do backstage deals with unhappy patients and move on. Every thing is in the open. What do you mean by backstage deals? Give a refund, is that a backstage deal you meant? Also, wasn't you the one who told me that I should go get refund from my first doctor? Wasn't you the one who told me that doctors should refund for failed results? Wasn't you the one told me that going back to same doctor who had bad results from previous surgery is not a good thing? Also wasn't you the one who asked me to share my results on this blog and introduce me here? All this was during the consultation.. if you can remember.. So what is the backstage deals you are talking? Everyone knows already what is happening, it's only to what extend you want to be responsible with. 7.This said, I apologise to the community that this sordid saga had to happen; and that it was a genuine impulsive mistake on the part of Shera. Blackmailing is not an impulsive mistake. It was a planned action, he got all the details from yourself. So my question to you, without my consent why did you share my details to Shera? And why are you talking about your clinic reputation now? We are not here discussing how badly has it hit your clinic image. Lastly, I would get a legal advise now with the emails I have and perhaps consult the Indian consumer rights after the entire lockdown ends.