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10 hours ago, JohnAC71 said:

Look at Ralph from 10 years ago or so.. hairline was gone. Fast forward to now and he’s has the hair of his youth pretty much

Ralph who??

EDIT: nvm I see you mean Ralph Macchio

Buy a blood pressure machine and check your BP daily

You also appear to have retrograde alopecia, which makes things even worse.

I would contact Dr. Umar and see if he can help you.

He has helped thousands of NW7's using BHT and scalp hair, so don't give up hope.

Go do a YT search on his work

^^^^ that looks better, but the first pic you posted under strong lighting doesnt lie

Sides dont look good either.  Very diffuse thinning.

Again, if you have good beard and chest hair you might be able to pull off a BHT/Scalp hair result

Since you asked, I'll be perfectly honest with you, that does not look good for you. 

I'd say almost for sure you're headed for a NW7.

You do look to have strong sides though, so perhaps a decent result using combo of scalp and bodyhair is not out of the question.

Maybe you can post pics of the sides as well??  It'll give us a better idea

2 hours ago, Seniormido said:

The question is how can you know 

I have diffuse thinning but in the norwood 6 area !

Post pics of the rear of your head (under strong lighting) and tell us how many years you've been balding.

I'll bet we can give you a reasonably good estimate

I would NOT complain if I were you

10 hours ago, Cody95 said:

Dr. Aditya Gupta with Surehair International/Seager hair transplant centre in Toronto, Canada! Very skilled team they have there haha!

Who did the extractions, the incisions and the implants??

13 hours ago, BDK081522 said:

My experiences were vastly different. My first hair transplant grew along a normal timeline but it wasn't done by a skilled clinic so it always lacked density. Hard to tell exactly when things were at their final growth because it just wasn't nearly dense enough to show the hairline. I continued to wear my hair down covering the hairline even after the transplant. My second transplant with Dr Diep grew in very quickly. Started seeing growth around 2.5-3 months with full visual density by 5-6 months. It was crazy how fast that one grew. Granted he used a large punch and thick grafts in the hairline. So, it was certainly dense enough but looked a bit stalky. My last transplant with Dr Konior has been much different. Started seeing growth around 3.5-4 months and it has definitely followed a more traditional timeline of sprouting immature hair that needs months of maturation before making a visual difference. I would say I'm at 80-85% visual density at almost 10 months. It may be because there's more scar tissue there or the fact that he used small punches and there's all very fine singles used up front. Upon close examination, I can tell many grafts are thin and still immature. Also, I'm still seeing a few new singles sprouting at almost 10 months. So, this one will take a full 18 months to mature. There's definitely a difference in growth rates for me that may be based on surgeon technique, scar tissue, patient physiology, or a combination of all these various factors. 

This is what I've heard from other people as well. 

But I think your type of cases are in the minority, not most people

A good clinic should have the doctor do the extractions and incisions himself, and the tech girls can do the implants

And one more question please, did your second HT follow the same growth pattern as your first HT??

(meaning the front grew first, and the crown grew last)

37 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Not true, past two weeks, the adhesive is a lot weaker, tugging it with pressure would lift it. Maybe not completely off, but enough to wear you’d see it’s a rug. This guy HairExperience on YouTube is pretty honest. You need to maintain it every few weeks, even shorter if you wash it daily. You cannot treat it like real hair when washing either. 
 

There are systems that require less maintenance, but again they look like garbage. The best systems are the ones with natural density, but they need a lot of maintenance. Trust me, the best system makers, much like the best surgeons are always honest. He mentions it here why guys opt for the crappy too high of density rugs.
 

 

Isnt it also true your scalp can become easily infected under the rug (especially around the glue)?? 

I heard something along those lines

My clinic said to wait 2 weeks

14 hours ago, Enhancer said:

I think we forgot that we are talking about the future here.  Which is more likely to happen first?

1. Hair systems don't fall off easily (arguably this is already the case, don't know what happened to @gillenator), maintenance becomes easier, less social stigma

2. Hair transplants no longer capped by the donor supply

ONE of those things WILL happen before the other, and that's what will determine which direction the hair transplant industry will go.

Yeah but at the end of the day you're gonna have to find a woman who doesnt mind going along with the whole facade.

Also if you ever get into a fight  she is gonna use your fake hair as ammunition to get under your skin while you're arguing with her.

And if you ever break up I can almost guarantee she will tell the whole world you wear a wig.

I also think its unethical to NOT tell a woman you wear a wig when you first start dating her.

Thats fake advertising.  So you should tell her right off the bat you wear a wig.  I think thats only fair

On 12/24/2020 at 12:09 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

#1- Social stigma

 told us a funny, but at the time horrible story. He spent the night with a woman he was dating, when he woke up his hair piece had fallen off. She asked what happened to his hair, by the time he grabbed it between the bed, she was gone. That’s a real fear, and if guys don’t wanna fess up to having a hair transplant, wearing a ‘rug’ is even worse. If we think about how long hair systems have been around, it’s been the oldest treatment. However, the stigma has never left. Will it improve? I guess some what, but I think it’s one of those things that will never be socially acceptable, especially for men

 

That reminds me of  Howard Cosell  back in the 80's 😂

Muhammad Ali even had a famous line after that: I'm gonna let everybody know that that thing you got on your head is a phony, and it comes from the tail of a pony!

Lucky bastard 😕

I've heard of rare cases where some guys saw growth at 2.5 months

Just curious but exactly when did you guys notice the the first hairs coming through??

Was it during the 2nd and 3rd month, or was it after 3 months??

39 minutes ago, DenverBuff1989 said:

ive heard this before about the crown. can you please explain why the crown takes longer? in your personal experience at what month did hair growth start in the crown, and when did it end? thanks. 

Its because the front of your scalp has a lot more bloodflow than the crown

10 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

Ok so my x2 FUTs grew exactly the same. And again when I had x3 FUE. 

Excellent!!  Good to hear.

I hope my 2nd one does the same

Lets say you had 3,000 grafts transplanted on your scalp.

And you then transplant another 3,000 grafts in the exact same region.

Does the 2nd hair transplant take longer to grow than 1st hair transplant??

I heard this from 2 different people but I'm not sure if its true or not

Blood flow

I'm not trying to be rude, but does anyone have any clue what Prof101 is trying to say???

^^^  I agree with Rob.  Get an FUT first at a top clinic.  Your scar should be barely noticable when done right.

After your first FUT see if you have enough laxity for a 2nd FUT. 

I didnt, thats why I'm now down to doing FUE's only.

Many people wont have laxity for another FUT after they just had 1 FUT