Westview

3 hours ago, Portugal25 said:

My beard donor after 3 days without shaving

Thats a great job they did!

I tiny bit of pain, but thats a small price to pay for getting your hair back

2 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I'll probably be going to Dr. Sethi and Bansal myself. 

You're in the US right??  Any reason why you're going to India??

Arent there really good BHT docs in North-America??  Or is it the lower price??

11 days for me.  And yes, I also had lower back pain but it wasnt too bad.

I used this neck pillow:

1 minute ago, JohnAC71 said:

Where are you located? I was choosing between HLC and Eugenix. Eugenix is my preference but yes it a long haul. 

East coast of North-America

30 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

@Westview would you be able to share a pic of your beard? How many grafts did Dr Arika think they could take?

Mine was around 2000 grafts at least. Based on pics. 

I can take a pic but you wont see much.  I have brown hair mixed with grey hairs and they are very hard to see on cellphone pics.

I even had to colour it with Just for Men so Dr. Arika could give me an estimate. 

She said around 2,000 grafts for sure, and perhaps 3,000 if I wanted to take most of the beard hairs away.

3,000 thankfully wont be necessary though, 2,000 should be enough.

Also keep in mind I read somewhere the transection rate for beard hair is higher.

Upwards of 10% is what I've read, but that could be outdated information

3 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said:

Beard hair is a great “filler” and yes the diameter is thicker. Zoomster also used it to great effect. I’m looking to just add density to my my mid section. 
I also was talking to Eugenix but entry to India is not going to be possible for quite a while for me (UK) already rearranged twice 😞

Its also the length of the flight,  jeezus christ!! 😲

From where I am located, and given  Covid-19 is still happening, I'd be looking at a 25 hour flight with 2 stops just to get to Mumbai.  All while I have to wear that darned mask.  Not a fun time! 😟

37 minutes ago, Portugal25 said:

Dr. Sethi and Dr. Arika along with Pekiner and HLC (Dr. Akin and Dr. Ozgur) are the best in the world for BHT (in my opinion).

Thats the woman I talked to on whatsapp, Dr. Arika. 

She said something along the lines of you need a ratio of 1 to 2  scalp to beard hair grafts.

Doing beard hairs alone looks unnatural, so you have to mix scalp with beard hair grafts.

So for example if you wanted 3,000 total hair grafts for your crown, you would need about  1,000 scalp hair grafts, and about 2,000 beard hair grafts.  Of course this is gonna vary amongst patients depending on graft thickness, colour contrast.......etc. But thats about the average.

Also keep in mind your beard hairs are almost all singles and a few doubles, but no triple or quadruple grafts.

However your beard hair is approximately twice as thick in diameter as scalp hair, so that helps a lot

4 hours ago, Portugal25 said:

Absolutely nothing as you can check in my thread. It was un-noticeble after just 10 days but I had BHT with one of the best Doctors in the world for BHT (in my opinion). 

Were the injections into the throat area painful?? I heard they are considerably more painful than the scalp

For those who have had beard hair to scalp transplants, did the FUE on the beard hairs leave any weird scarring along your throat, chin or cheeks??

Please post your experience, whether bad or good

If worse comes to worse you can always do a scalphair transplant on top, and do a partial beardhair/scalphair transplant on the crown.

Thats kinda what I'm doing right now.  I'm a NW6 and I dont have enough scalphair for both the top and the crown.

Read more here: https://www.realself.com/question/argentina-ar-norwood-achieve-visually-full-head-hair-combining-hair-back-head

What might save you is I can see little to no thinning along your sidebanks.

It would make for a rather strange MB pattern then, but I have seen them on occassion.

Another advantage you have is looking at your pics you have very thick hair.  Thats a huge bonus!

Having said all that, its way too early to assess what Norwood you are headed for.

You  need to be patient and let the baldness pattern take its natural course.

Not easy though.  I know the exact anxiety you're going through right now, it sucks!!

16 minutes ago, Ab93 said:

What makes you say that?

Inside the red circle it looks like you're already thinning there too.

So that only leaves a tiny strip of donor (inside the green box).

But you would really have to have a doctor look at this to make sure

Hate to say it, but it looks like you're headed for a Norwood 7.

Have you tried topical FIN??  Works just as good without all the sides.

Linkie: https://www.minoxidilmax.com/products

14 hours ago, Hairgain22 said:

😳 I’m at a loss for words, that’s shocking! 

The only good news is it appears this clinic is out of business: http://www.coloradosurgicalhair.com/

On 11/11/2020 at 12:21 AM, DenverBuff1989 said:

@Westview I live in Denver lol, what clinic are you referring to? I think you're referring to one out in Highlands Ranch tho right that got shut down a few years ago?. There is also HairSciencesCenter with Dr. Jim Harris, I think he's solid tho. 

@westview nvm I see James Boland in Colorado Springs. 

Yupper, thats the one.  See thread:

1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Great interaction and informative posts by our physicians. Who was the “reputable clinic” have you reached out to them? What did they have to say?

This is what I wanna know.  Which clinic butchered this poor guy??

If I had to take a guess its that infamous clinic in Denver, but I could be wrong.

OP, please post clinic's name.  That way they cant butcher more people!

I think its actually a good sign the hairs are growing, because that means they likely were not transected and appear to have been transplanted properly

Yup, mine grew for about 1 to 2 weeks before they all shed. That is normal

Not only does it look like its a lot less than 3,000 grafts, it also looks like the hairline is way too low. It should be higher up the forehead.

Thats just my untrained eye looking at your pics though, I could be wrong.

Ask another HT doctor if he can confirm this for you

9 hours ago, tressful11 said:

Thanks for your sharing your perspective everyone.
But my primary concern is whether using minox on transplanted hairs might affected them in the long term?
We do know that non transplanted hairs become dependant on minox and fall out when you stop using minox.
What about transplanted hairs? Will they be affected if we stop minox after a few years?

They shouldnt, because transplanted hairs are not DHT sensitive

This is what a complete graft looks like right before its transplanted.

The 2 grafts  I shed don't look quite the same. The bulb at the end looks more round and thicker

All the other grafts on my scalp feel normal and secure

1 hour ago, ciaus said:

Those look like dislodged grafts, hopefully all of them aren't coming off looking like that. Did you bump your head or wear a tight fitting hat since the procedure, or maybe wake up after sleeping and have any blood on your head? Sometimes you can itch or rub your head while you sleep and not realize it.

Are you sure they are dislodged grafts??  This doctor says its very common to find hairs in shedded grafts.

He also says its very difficult to dislodge grafts after 48 hours of your surgery

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