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Thats dr. Umar's clinic: https://www.dermhairclinic.com/

He's legit but very expensive.

He is also a BHT expert. 

FUE only, he doesnt do FUT as far as I know

I'd be careful with that.  Customs in any country can refuse entry if they feel like it.

They dont need a reason, other then they dont like the looks of you.

It seems in most countries only essential travel is allowed and I'm not sure cosmetic surgery falls under that category.

Airlines wont care either, they will just sell you the ticket knowing full well you could be denied entry

6 hours ago, lamar_lamont said:

Thanks, I’m going to look him up

You first need to find out if you have enough laxity for a FUT though

Not overseas, but Dr. Cotterrill in Canada does FUT transplants for $5,000 CDN (which is about $3,800 USD).

I was told he doesnt shave, but that was 5 years ago so I dont know if anything has changed since then

I always wanted to know, a quadruple hair graft, do all 4 hairs grow from one bulb, or is it 4 separate bulbs in one follicle??

44 minutes ago, Mycroft said:

Nobody is going to have shock loss from PRP. They're not making incisions in your head like they do with surgery, just injections. Any hair that sheds after a PRP treatment will either come back (likely thicker) or was already walking "dead" anyway.

I heard the excessive blood flow from PRP injections can cause excessive DHT around native hair follicles that are sensitive to DHT, which can cause them to shed

On 10/20/2020 at 5:46 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

I believe prp may improve the growth time, meaning the hair may grow quicker. One of our members had prp with Arocha and had excellent results perhaps he can chime in @Mycroft

I have also heard of people having excessive shock loss after PRP and saying it wasnt worth it

So I recently learned performing body hair transplants is a more difficult job than regular scalp hair FUE.

Not every doctor is good at it.

Here is a list of clinics that perform BHT: https://www.hairlosscure2020.com/list-of-surgeons-who-offer-body-hair-to-head-hair-transplants/

I cant vouch how good each doctor is, however.

The only ones I know of that do good work are Dr. Umar, Eugenix and Dr. Lorenzo

Dr. Lorenzo over in Spain has some excellent BHT results.  I might go with him instead of Eugenix

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Injertocapilar+bht

Baby shampoo for the first 2 weeks is the right answer

Just tell the stewardesses and passengers on the plane that you got into a bad motorcycle accident.

You'll get treated like a king by the stewardesses, and all the other passengers will feel sorry for you.

Trust me, it works!

I locked myself up in my hotel room the first 10 days after my transplant and watched netflix all day while ordering room service.

My best advice is to just take a 10-day vacation after the transplant (if you can get time off work)

10 hours ago, jc636 said:

Hmmm. I don't have norwood 6/7 in my family history but I suppose anything is possible. This loss has been like this for 5 years now with no further progression. I'm actually considering getting 1k of beard hair in that spot and not even messing with my scalp donor until absolutely needed.

Beard hair is probably a better option, but remember when the bald spot progresses you will still have to fill it in with scalp hair for it to look normal

Thats fine. 

Expect to get some blood on it though, so you'll wanna clean that off every day so you dont get an infection

24 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

Yea that’s my only concern, but apparently if it’s disguised with scalp hair it blends. 

I also heard if you keep your hair short it blends much better.

The longer you keep your hair the more unnatural it looks, and vice versa.

I keep my hair  short.  Below 1 inch.  So it should blend okay

On 11/17/2020 at 6:27 PM, Melvin-Moderator said:

BHT is a way different than scalp hair, the survival rate is lower, the hair is kinkier. You need a specialist, similar to afrocentric hair. The hair can change directions under the skin. Very few US surgeons regularly perform BHT. Even the ones that do practice BHT don’t regularly post their results. 

They say practice makes perfect, Eugenix in my opinion is one of the few clinics that have been consistently doing BHT and showing the results. Anyway that’s why I’m choosing them. 

I'm starting to see what you mean.  Was watching TV the other day and Jack Dorsey was on.

You can see how his beard hair is completely different than his scalp hair.

Its all wiry and stuff.  Kinda weird looking actually

10 hours ago, jc636 said:

Why not?

Because you have no idea what Norwood you're headed for in the future.  If you're gonna be a Norwood 3, 4 or 5 you'll probably be okay, but if you're headed for a 6 or a 7 you will have wasted valuable donor hair on a small crown area of your head, and you're gonna look real awkward with just that patch on your crown.

I suppose you could always go for a repair job and transplant those 1,000 grafts to another part of your head again, but why go through all that??

Why not be patient and see how your baldness pattern progresses first, and then make the necessary transplant(s).

For now I'd stick to meds and Toppik as others have suggested.

Also I think most ethical doctors wouldnt touch your head because of unknown future Norwood progress.

Just my $0.02 worth

2 hours ago, jc636 said:

I think I'm going to get a small procedure done of 1k grafts to the crown

I wouldnt do that if I were you

Schumer had a bad transplant too.

I think Trump, Biden and Schumer are from the old days of picket fence transplants and butchered scalp reductions.

Although I do think Trump looks the best of all 3 (or perhaps I should say the least worst of the 3) 😂

1 hour ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m not sure cm2 wise but pretty large. I probably need a similar number of grafts. Doubt I can get much more than 2,000. But I’m blessed with beard, so well see how much I can get there. Hopefully around 1,000

The good thing about the crown is it doesnt need to be super dense like the frontal scalp. 

You can get away with a bit less density.

6 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m considering beard donor hair, I have a great result, but my crown is barely touched. I’m looking to get some BHT in the crown.

How many cm2 approximately do you need covering??

My crown is 80 cm2 and needs about 2,500 to 3,000 grafts

Found this interesting article: https://www.milkmanaustralia.com/blogs/news/79284420-beard-hair-versus-head-hair-what-s-the-difference

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The hair on the scalp, like that on the face, grows in three steps – but the hair on the face has a much shorter growing phase. These steps include the active growth phase (anagen), the transitional phase (catagen- when growth stops) and the falling out phase (telogen). On the scalp, this cycle lasts for years; on the face it is a matter of months. 

Androgenic hair growth is dependent on the hormone testosterone – the more testosterone a guy has, the more facial hair he will grow. Ironically, testosterone is also responsible for some terminal hair follicles reverting over time to vellus follicles – hence middle-aged scalp baldness (even in the presence of a full and manly beard!).

The hair that guys grow naturally on their faces is a very different beast than what grows on the scalp, or elsewhere on the body, for that matter. Facial hair tends to be thicker, and of a much more wiry texture than that on the head. The skin under the hair is also different. Scalp skin tends to be more oily than facial skin so using some cleansers might be great for removing excess oil from your head but too harsh & drying for the face.

There may also be differences in the ability for the hair to tangle and look unruly. Scalp hair may be straight, yet beard hairs grow thicker and curly – and the reason for this all comes down to the shape of the follicles. Follicles on the face are much more sensitive to androgens like testosterone; these hormones make follicles twist and their resultant hairs become kinked. This means that even the brush you use might need to be different, a stiff one for the beard and a softer one for the head.

Beard hairs may grow in a completely different texture than scalp hair – and even in a different colour. It’s not uncommon to grow red hairs in the beard when there is not a red hair to be seen elsewhere on the body! A man may retain a full head of dark hair into middle age, yet his beard may grow completely grey

19 minutes ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

BHT is a way different than scalp hair, the survival rate is lower, the hair is kinkier. You need a specialist, similar to afrocentric hair. The hair can change directions under the skin. Very few US surgeons regularly perform BHT. Even the ones that do practice BHT don’t regularly post their results

 

Interesting.  I did not know that.

Maybe I'll have to make the trip out to Eugenix as well.

Their waiting list is huge btw

20 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m in the US yes. I haven’t seen better results with BHT in the US, if I’m being honest. Eugenix have a lot of BHT results here that make me confident in choosing them. I don’t let cost or location be the deciding factor.

Here's what I dont understand though, a beard hair FUE should be little to no different than a scalp hair FUE. Perhaps a slightly bigger punch since beard hairs are twice as thick.  But other then that, what could possibly make Eugenix so much better than a North-American FUE expert doctor??  Its basically extract the graft and then insert the graft into the slit, is it not??

I dont get it.  Please explain