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Thanks Blake! I'll defo post the next update soon! Thanks for your fantastic forum!

Yeah, 850 body hair was tough - much harder than scalp. REckon it's gonna be worth it though! How many did your friend have?

Thanks Mickey! I'm kind of all talked out now but I going to keep those photos coming! I know how much this forum helped me when I chose Dr Villnow and Dr De Reys. You guys are great!!

5 Day updates are in!! (I've added them to the first post!)

Hey Hariri, good questions! Yep, they all came from teh chest. They were all put into the back of my head, the crown to kind of add some density there

Thanks Mickey! I wll defo stay on the updates this time! TBH I hadn't really thought about signs in the donor too much. Dr De Reys said I had a fantastic donor when I saw him although now that you mention it, I also think he was really careful how he extracted the grafts. I don't really know much about how it could go wrong. Can you explain what would happen if it was done wrong?

Thanks D! I'll definitely do the updates. (I know I was a bit slack last time )

I got back to London from the mixed FUE and body hair operation with Dr Villnow a few days ago and I am very happy with the result. The surgeon was amazing and the staff were super professional. It was also a really plush and comfortable place to stay and...the price was great!! This was a big operation for me because it was the first time I'd got body hair grafts. I started this whole journey as a Norwood 5 going on Norwood 6. Dr De Reys in Belgium did some great FUE-only work for me, putting in 5000 grafts over two operations. His work was great and here are some photos from that operation: Now you can see that it's already been a huge transformation from near-complete baldy to pretty good head of hair although you can also see on those third and fourth pictures how thin it is at the back and along the sides of my head. On the fourth picture you can definitely see the lack of density at the back. I'd let the hair grow extra, extra long before I took those pictures so although the overall result was great and looks pretty fine after a hairdresser has worked with it, when it's grown out you can see there were still some gaps along the back of the head and the sides that could be seen. Now I was Norwood 5/6 so respect to Dr De Reys but it was always going to be tough to fill up such a massive space. 5000 grafts is not enough and it looks to me like over 95% did grow through as well. Now I knew I wanted a lower hairline. Up to now I kind of let it grow and combed my hair forward to cover the high temples, not ideal but a massive improvement on doing a combover at the back of my head like Mr Magoo! Anyway, to cut a long story short, I went back to Dr De Reys and asked him if he could do anything else for me. He said I had some grafts left but I'd have to choose between boosting the back of the head or doing the temples - I didn't have enough grafts left to do both. Now, I'd heard about body hair grafts from reading up on the forums and so that was my next question - could I double up (or more!) by taking some of the hairs from my chest or my chin? Unfortunately, Dr De Reys said he didn't do body hair grafts at all because the operation was much harder and took much longer. He said it would take him more than a day to get 500 body hair grafts because they're much harder to extract - and also loads of body hair grafts end up being unusable so you get far fewer grafts in the end. Also his operation setup, with his wife, the nurse meant it was just too much work for them to do. Bummer! So I'd more or less lost hope when Nick, Dr De Rey's rep piped up and reckoned he knew a very experienced surgeon who could do FUE and body hair -at a good price. The guy's name is Dr Villnow and his clinic is alos in Belgium and he's got one in Germany too. Now I know nick gave me some great advice in the past so I decided to get a consult and see this guy. Turns out, Villnow is some kind of celebrity doctor in Germany who's famous for treating footballers and he's always on tv or in the paper there. I thought he might be really expensive but Nick says he'll charge the same price as Dr De Reys charges. For 1500 grafts it's around 4000 euros which is still really, really good value - amazing price for a top European surgeon. For 3000 grafts it goes down to 7000 euros but i know I haven't got 3000 grafts left So I asked Nick why the guy doesn't charge more and Nick says he's got two clinics, one in Belgium and one in Germany and he does two operations every day so his prices are lower. That was a shock at first. I knew how long it took for Dr De Reys to do an op - it took like till 9 in the evening one day so I ask him, how can he do 2 operations a day, doesn't he get exhausted? nick says the guy works with a team so he doesn't get exhausted. I suppose that's kind of standard now although I liked the fact that De Reys worked on his own. I like the thought of the surgeon doing all the work. Nick says sure, but that way, it takes a lot longer. The surgeon gets knackered and can get less done in a day. Body hair is out. Anyway, you get the picture, Nick is pretty persuasive so I set up the consult through him. I speak to Dr Villnow's rep whose name is Etienne and in a few weeks, I'm flying over to the clinic in germany. It's in Dusseldorf. Right in the centre. Nice little city with a stream or a canal that goes through the middle. There's a hotel there next to the little river called the Breidenbacker Hoff and that's where Dr Villnow has his clinic, on the side of the building where the hotel is in. I found out later that the hotel and the doc have some arrangement so patients can stay there - in fact the clinic opens right into the hotel with its own door! Dr Villnow is a very, very nice guy in person and very professional and very experienced. Turns out he's been doing hair transplants for more than twice as long as Dr De Reys and he set up his clinic in the early 90s. Reckoned he was one of the first hair transplant doctors in Euroep. I ask why he's not more well-known and he says most of his business comes from Germany, Russia and Saudi Arabia although he has a lot of celebrity customers from the States too. he checks my hair and says I've got about 1500 grafts left in my donor area which he could use to fill out my temples and also fill in the two lines along the top of the head where the density is not so great. He checks my chest and says I've got plenty of grafts there. He says he could take 1000 from my chest and fill out the crown to maximise the density. Now I've emailed a few other surgeons who do body hair and they all had monster waiting lists and I know I don't want to wait till next year or whenever so my last question is, when can we do it. He says, in two weeks!!! He says he had a cancellation although his pro-style operation (he calls himself the hair transplant pro - cos of all the footballers! ) can handle a lot more patients than Dr De Reys so he could have fit me in a month and half later if normal. Great news for me. Good price, done soon, not next year and a top surgeon. I checked his clinic out as well and it is really first class (I got some pics of that later on) It's on! OK, so that's the background, now the bit that counts - the photos! First, when I arrive, I'm staying in the clinic's own in-patient overnight rooms. They are seriously plush! Here's some photos I took: This is the door to the bedroom. This is the couch and bed - you can see it's pretty nice indeedy! This is another photo of the bedroom - that MAc book doesn't come with the room, it's mine! The bathroom was a real highlight Here's another bathroom photo So overall, nice digs, on a level with a posh hotel. And, with a 24 hour nurse on call, pretty safe. The main bonus (for me) was that it's all included in the price - no need to book a hotel anywhere (although I guess if you go with your family you could stay at the main hotel but it looked really proper 5 star to me). I stay there on the first night before the operation and I'm up bright and early the next day. It starts at 8am! Right, so before the operation begins, I hand my camera over to the doctor. His team come in, two ladies and they start to shave my head and then they took some photos. Now this is the first time I'd seen my head shaved since the last operation. Now you can really see the hairline that Dr De Reys constructed. here are the photos: You can see on the last two photos how the hairline is pretty high. Now don't get me wrong, this is a million times better than where it used to be - at the back of my head! So Dr De Reys did fantastic work although he was kind of limited by the number of grafts I had. Still you can see the evidence here. This is quality work from the Belgian bruiser! So what do the smart German scientists have planned? First off Dr Villnow (who is a truly lovely guy, always smiling and joking and also very reassuring) and I discussed the plan. He said there were 1500 grafts left in my head and he would lower the temples and fill in the areas along the side where the density was low. He said on the next day, the body hair grafts would go in. Next he asked if I wanted something to help me sleep. Now I made a bit of an error of judgement here. I remembered that the operation with Dr De Reys was painful in places so I immediately jumped at the chance to have something to make me sleep. The nurses hooked me up to a drip and I got something that pretty much knocked me out straight away. What I didn't realise was that each patient was only allowed to have a certain amount of this stuff and I shoulda kept it in reserve for later in the operation because it was a real ace in the hand. It knocked me out straight away and I slept through the extraction and the part where the doctor makes slits in your head to put the grafts in - I slept through like two thirds of the operation. The first day sailed by but thinking back, I think oughta have saved the drip for the second day - the body hair part. More on that later. Anyway whilst I was floating around the city happily in my little dream world, the doc took the camera and did the extractions. I was well away within 5 minutes so I remember none of this. Nor do I remember him making the incisions. Luckily they took photos and here they are: OK, that's a bit gruesome but remember - I didn't take theses photos! In this part he took out the 1500 scalp hair grafts - and I didn't notice a thing! Now the next set of photos are really interesting. It's where the doc marked out the areas where the grafts (including the plan for the body hairs) are going to go in. His job now was to cut the incisions in the head. Here's the photos: So you can see the doc's plan. Pretty comprehensive way to sort out the low density spots. I reckon the second and third photos there are best. You can really see his plan for how the new temples will turn out. Much more natural than the far back ones I had. Now here's a photo from after the incisions were done: NOw it's probably not a surprise to you that I didn't take this photo either so the thing is, I can't tell if there grafts are in there already or not. Or if this is just a photo after the incisions were made. You guys see it? Either way, you can really see where the grafts went in on the next set of photos which were from day 2 - body hair day! But before we go on, I just want to say what time we finished the day - 3pm! It was all done, extraction, incision and implants within 7 hours. This was a shock because I'd had 10, 11 hour days with Dr De Reys. The main thing was the team working in twos were able to do twice the work in the same time. At the end, I was buzzing - it was so smooth and so fast. I hardly noticed a thing. If I'd been having just FUE scalp then this would have been a total breeze, like no pain at all (ok I think you know where I'm going with this story... ) So here's the photos from the next day early in the morning - we started at 8 again. Bit bloody cos the scabs have started to form although on that last photo you can see where the body hair grafts are gonna go. Now back to my error of judgement. Thinking I was smart, I ask for the drip again and I got it again. But because the doc needs to make sure you're not going to walk away an addict or something, the amount he can give you over the whole two days is limited. So if I'da held off on the first day (and just relied on the local anaesthetic only that you get anyway which is injected into your head), I coulda got more on the second and it turned out - I'd need it! Body hair extraction is a completely different number to scalp hair. First off, you need a ton more anaesthetic because if you think about it, the chest is much, much bigger than the back of your head - right? Secondly it turns out that not all chest hairs can be used. My hairs go curly under the skin so not all the grafts are usable. More have to be extracted than can be used in the end so this makes the extraction into a monster marathon compared to normal scalp FUE. Even with two technicians doing the extraction (both of them were clearly very, very experienced at doing it - like they'd done it thousands of times - they just went right at it). Even with two it took till 1.30 pm and we'd got 850 grafts. Now I'm a tough guy, I can handle pain but at that point, I was done. I wish I coulda slept through it like I had on day 1 but even though the plan was to take out 1000 body hair grafts (which the doc said I definitely had in me), I stopped it at 850. It wasn't cos the extraction was too painful (although it's definitely not pleasant) but I just couldn't lie there any longer (had troubles with my back in the past and it couldn't go on). The technicians said they couldn't keep the grafts stored in the plasma blood solution for much longer and they needed to be put in. So I made a decision just to stop right there. The doc was disappointed and I'm hoping I'm not going to regret it but 850 is all we got - still a mighty feat. So, my tip to you guys who go for body hair - this is not a picnic. This is a long and tough op. Don't do what I did and use up all your magic sleeping medicine on the first day. If I'd slept through it, I think I woulda been fine and got the whole 1000 but it didn't happen. My bad. Anyway, it turns out 850 is still a ton of grafts so here's the next bunch of photos of my chest before the op! And after the op: Wooo! what a day. Glad when it was done! SCalp hair - piece of cake. Body hair - hard! Next step - get my hair washed. Here you can see the final results for the first time: So you can see the 850 grafts are in, the 1500 are in. Still pretty bloody and my head is swollen from the saline in the drip. This doesn't happen to everyone and it goes away in a few days. Still I look a bit like the elephant man and so a bit of time off is called for when I get back. Right so, op done. i fly back to London the next day. I stay in the inpatient room for three nights. I order food to be delivered every night which is also included in the price (so I pig out a bit on burgers and pizza I figure I'm losing blood, right? ). The doctor's staff are some of the friendliest people I've met. The place is as clean as a whistle and the result is looking perfect. Final verdict - this is a top doctor. Right so yesterday I took the day 3 photos and these are going to be the first in a long line that I keep adding to. You can see the swelling is going down and now you can see the result properly. This looks GREAT!!! I'm really excited!!! Now I know these grafts are gonna fall out soon and come back again in a few months but I am very, very happy with this. I know from Dr De Reys that when the hair came back, it was amazing. This time, it's going to be perfect. 7350 grafts, 6500 scalp and 850 body hair = awesome!! Going from NW5/NW6 to NW0/1. All body hair and FUE, no scar - done. ----------------- 5 DAY UPDATES! Now this is a real look into the future! My head is nearly normal (though still a bit swollen) and the scabs aren't really visible anymore and...the grafts are all still there! The rest of my hair has grown back to about the same length as the grafts so this is it! It's the perfect moment after a hair transplant wehn you get to see what the final result will look like - before the grafts start to shed! First though, here's a photo of my chest. Still a few holes but healing real fast, you can see there are scabs mainly on one side and the points on the other side are closing up. Didn't really need to do much with this. Had some Vaseline on it for the first couple of days but didn't do anything after that. Not taking any kind of medication, painkillers or such - nothing. No trouble sleeping. It's a bit sore but nothing major. Funny thing is the scabs are just about visible if all you're wearing is a white tshirt. They look like little bumps. OK, so now here's some photos of my head, you can get a clear view of the way the temple hairline has been moved down here. It's kind of been connected across if you know what I mean? My head is still pretty swollen! Now you can see the hairline from the front. This is an immense improvement!! OK, this is an awesome, awsome result! Just to get it into perspective, here's three pics together. The one on the left is before the first operation, the one in the middle is after Dr De Reys put 5000 grafts in (it's the same picture as the one after I had my head shaved earlir in the journal) and the one on the right is Dr Villnow's new hairline with the temples down. Check it out!! OK, this is a nice photo from the left. Doesn't look so swollen on this side. From the back From the top NOw these two photos are my favourite, just kind of close in so you can really see that hairline. I love the way it's looking now and I can't wait for it to grow through. This is the future for me! So that's it for now! ---------------------- Day 7 Updates!! Right so here we go with the next bunch of photos. This is pretty close to the last lot although now you can really see that my head swelling has gone and....the grafts have started to shed a little! Boo hooo! Here we go: You can see what I mean about the swelling going down really well on this next photo from the side... So now these are the two where you can see the shedding. Can you see it on the top front there? And on this one too, the new grafts are now just starting to fall. OK, that's it for this update! Back soon! -------------------------------- Day 10 Updates! Now at Day 10, I was expecting the transplanted hairs to be shedding and that's definitely happening. The swelling is completely gone and the new grafts are falling out. Here's the first bunch of photos This is where you can start to see the new grafts shedding properly.. It's pretty easy to see on these two photos although I reckon the fact that the rest of the hair is getting longer makes it easier to spot. So just to show how the grafts I've really started to shed, here' a photo of Day 10 vs Day 5. I think you can see it right? ---------------------- ---------------------- Two week updates! OK, the two week mark is here. Got some chest photos for you this time but first the head. All the swelling is now most definitely history although the shedding has defo set in now too. As you can see, there's no shock loss going on! Here's the first set of photos: And here's the big one! The chest! 2 weeks after the OP, the soreness is gone and it's all healing up nicely ) ------------------------ I'll be adding more photos soon (regularly!!) so watch this space. I usually don't check my PMs so just post away below this thread and I'll answer any questions you got. Thanks again to everyone on this forum for their encouragement, especially Matt1978 for your cool, calm advice. Take care guys and watch this space !!

I had my consultation with Dr Villnow last week and overall I'm very impressed and I'm going to book. I first had a hair transplant with Dr De Reys in Belgium who did a fantastic job. Here's my journal: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html I orginally had 3000 grafts done and then I had another 2000 done to fill out my crown area. all FUE. 5000 is a lot of grafts though I was also a Norwood 5 going on Norwood 6. You can see all that in my journal. I've been really happy with the growth from Dr De Reys work though I still felt I could do with more grafts in the crown and maybe some more work on the temples. I checked back with Dr De Reys' representative (Nick) who said I probably only had another 1500 grafts left in the back of my head and I could do one or the other. I'd heard about beard and body hair grafts on the forum and I wanted to know if this would work for me. Nick said Dr De Reys doesn't do beard or body hair though he recommended another doctor, Dr Villnow and put me in touch with his rep who's name was Etienne. Etienne was pretty thorough and he sent me some photos of patients who'd had body hair grafts and also sent me a linnk to one of his patients who had posted on the forum. A guy called cousinr. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/170774-4200-fue-dr-villnow-800-body-hair.html I really liked cousinr's result, especially the body hair at the back of the head - that's exactly what I wanted so I made up my mind and went to see Dr Villnow last week, Oh yeah, the other thing that got me interested was that Dr Villnow had done Juergen Klopp's hair and I'm well into my footy! First off, Dr Villnow's clinic in Dusseldorf, Germany is big. He had tons of space, with waiting areas, breakout rooms and four(!) operating theatres. One of the first things the doc did was show me around, he was an extremely friendly guy who was also pretty proud of his digs. Dr Villnow definitely has a full set of medical equipment - lasers, microscopes, all sorts of widgets and gadgets with flashing lights and a whole bunch of stuff that I've got no idea about. No doubt he has the set-up. Very pro. He told me he'd been doing hair transplants for more than twenty years and he reckoned he was one of the first hair transplant surgeons in Europe. I asked him why he wasn't more well-known and he said he has so much business from Germany, Russia and Saudi Arabia that he doesn't look to the UK, US, Oz, SA or Kiwi markets much but he's planning on changing that around. He sat down with me and spent over an hour discussing what he could do for me. He looked at my hair and marked out three areas to work on. A section along each side of the head running back from each of the temples which he would bring forward. He said that would take 1500 normal scalp FUE grafts which he thought my head still had in it. He said he does FUT as well. I said I didn't want that. I don't want any scar on my head. And the other area was the crown which he would fill with 800 or 900 body hair grafts. He checked my chest and said there were plenty of grafts to use. He said it thought it would be better to avoid doing beard hair because, with my darker skin, it might leave microscars which could be visible after a close shave. He called it keloid and he said he could run a test to see if it would be a problem but I said it would be ok without. He said it would be a two day operation and that because I had come though Nick, he would match Dr De Reys' prices. Sweet! Although the body hair grafts were going to be more expensive - 5 euros per graft. He showed me lots of photos of patients who'd had operations with him before. I asked him why he didn't have many before and after photos online and he said it was because of a German law which stops German doctors from showing before and after photos. Sounds wierd to me but he had a ton of photos on his mac and also little booklets full of past patient photos. He gave me one to keep. For the operation he said he would make all the incisions himself. He said his team of technicians would do most of the extraction and placement but he would be extracting some of the body hair grafts cos this is harder than normal head grafts. Now Dr De Reys only works with his wife and does most of the work himself and I really liked that so I asked Dr Villnow why he did things his way with a team and he said it prevents fatigue. He said that one doctor doing all the work himself could lead to tiredness. he said his team has four people in it who work two at a time and then rotate so no one gets tired. I asked him how long it would take and he said the operation would start at 8am and finish by 3pm. After the operaton I could stay in one of the in-patient bedrooms rather than look for a hotel. Either way, accomodation was included in the price. Now for me, the killer question...when could I have it done? He said he could fit me in in two weeks! This was an amazing result for me because I've checked with a bunch of other doctors doing body hair in Belgium and the UK and they are all booked out till next year or whenever. He said he has a clinic in Belgium as well as in Dussseldorf and he and his team do two operations every day so he could easily fit me in sooner. So overall, a top impression and my mind is made up - Dr Villnow it is, two weeks time and another 2500 (or so) FUE grafts to make my head so full of hair that it'll make me (and the ladies ) cry! That'll be 7500 FUE grafts in total Wish me luck and hope you guys will give me some encouragement like last time, It meant so much to me to see your support!!

Thanks cousin! I've got an appointment with him next week. I'll post how it went on the forum!

This is great. What's the waiting time like? How long did you have to wait to get your op?

This is a fantastic result! I think the body hair at the back is especially good! I went to see Dr De Reys last year and I've had superb growth but I'm wondering if I should beef up the back (crown) with some body hair too - kind of like you've had done. Was it really tough when the body hairs were extracted?

Hey BVBer, Don't get put off this forum by guys who are pushing their favourite doctors. They did that to me when I first did my journal of Dr Dr Reys and now everyone knows he's a star. Seems to me that if Dr Villnow gets footballers coming to him then they know something we don't! So how long has this doc been going?

Hey BVBer, I love my footy too so good luck on the 25th! I know everyone here in London (NO, I haven't got a Wembley ticket (( boo hooo!!!) wants Borussia to win. Jurgen Klopps been on the BBC a lot recently and he seems solid! Good luck to you! I've got a question about Villnow. Is he really expensive and does he have a big team? Has he treated any other footballers? I went to see Dr De Reys in Belgium and his prices were great and the results fantastic too. Have a look at my journal here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html

Six month updates are up!!!!

I went to Dr De Reys in Belgium because I found out that he does all the extractions himself. Some guys here says 'technicians' are really important but I wanted an actual surgeon to do the work - afterr all that's what I'm paying for! I don't buy the fatigue thing either, a trained experienced surgeon knows how to pace himself - that's the job. IF anythign I'd be more worried about people without medical training cutting away on my head! Anyway here's my journal: https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys-5.html Good luck! Will

Hey JC, I paid 7000 euros for 3000 grafts in the first op and then another 5000 for the second which several months later. I'm getting ready to post again soon and I'm kind of thinking about putting up a 'NOW' which woudl mess up the timeline but give you guys an idea of where I'm at now! What do you think? Cheers! Will

Hey dhaber, I had 5000 done with Dr De Reys last year and I'd recommend him. I'm about to add some more photos but here's my journal! Good luck! Will http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html

I had 5000 done with Dr De Reys in Belgium. Here's my journal: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html Good luck! Will

Hey Shane, I had 5000 grafts done in an FUE with Dr De Reys in Belgium. Definitely a top surgeon and also...a nice price. He won't overcharge because he works in a small team with his wife who's a nurse. He doesn't have to meet all the overheads that other docs do. Anyway, here's my journal. Judge for yourself and don't believe everything you read in the forums. Good luck! Will http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html

++++Check the FUE forum for my journal. It's been moved!++++ I got back to London from the second procedure with Dr De Reys about a month ago. I'm very happy with the result although I was also very happy with the first operation which I had with him last year. I chose him because I knew he had been the lead surgeon at the Pro Clinic, which is also in Belgium. My overall impression of Dr De Reys? Very professional and very experienced. He seems to be trying to limit the number of clients he has these days. His Rep said I was a Norwood class 5 going on 6. Here are some photos of me before I had anything done: This is straight after the first operation. 3000 grafts put in front and centre. Dr De Reys actually took these photos himself in the clinic. I've been asked a few times about the donor area so I dug up some photos from the day after each operation to see if I had any of the donor area. This is what I had. For Operation 1, I had two reasonable photos of the donor area after the first operation. If you look closely, especially on the one taken from the left side, you can still see small points of blood which formed on top of the tiny holes made during the extraction. I'm afraid I didn't think about snapping the donor area at the time so these are the only two donor area photos that I've got for the first op. Anyway, When I got home, I kept on taking photos and here are some shots after three days. You can still see the crusts (or scabs) on the scalp. At this stage, you're not supposed to touch the hair. This is how it looked after seven days. Now I was allowed to wash my hair using a special Aloe Vera shampoo that Dr De Reys gave me. After 3 months. Here you can see that the transplanted hairs had already started to shed. This is normal and after they had fallen out, they came back again after five or six months. At this stage I'm still using the Aloe Vera shampoo and also applying an Aloe Vera cream in the evening. Before I go on, I have to admit that I cut my hair a few times in the first few months. I'd always had a buzz cut before the first operation to hide my thinning hair. It was an eye-opener growing it in the months before the op because I finally saw how much had gone! Dr De Reys recommended I grow it before the operation but on operating day his nurse cut it back down to grade one. I also have to admit that after three months I let the photos slide a little ...but I also started to let the hair grow out. I still had it cut but now it was at the barber shop! It was great to visit the barber again and get a proper haircut - no need to use the clippers at home anymore. So here are some photos at around eight months, just before I went to see Dr De Reys again for the second op. Now a few days after these photos (at eight months) I went to see Dr De Reys for the second operation. This time I wanted to get the back done and he said I had 2000 grafts still available in the donor area. He also said that the grafts from the first op were not all through yet and he expected the full result to show at twelve months. I'd already decided to add more to my temples, to bring the hairline even more forward. Dr De Reys said it was no problem. He put 350 grafts to fill in the temples a bit more. The rest (1650) he transplanted into the back of my head. Here are the pics he took immediately after the second operation: You can see how he added a little to the temples to move the hairline forward. You can also see that there's absolutely no scarring from the first operation. Here's the result after one week: I've got more photos of the donor area for the second op though. Here you can see the small points of blood much more clearly. These have disappeared completely now and there is no scarring. A week later, the points are already disappearing but still visible. Now I've got some more photos of 1 month post-op (although I'm not on this forum as much so there's always a delay before I post Here are some photos at 2 months after the second operation. From the front, back, left and right first: And now I took some close-ups of the hairline. You can see that the results of the original operation mean I now have to push the hairs back to see the new grafts. At the moment the new grafts are at the shedding phase so they have mostly fallen out. I'll have to wait a few months before they grow back. you can barely see them at the moment. Still, the fact that I now have to push hairs back is a great feeling! Here's another update with the photos at 3 months. You can see the original transplant hairs are really going strong now. It took about 5 months before the hairs from the first transplant showed at all so the hairs from the second operation aren't showing yet. Right, so here's the four month update. As you can see the hairs from the new transplant at the crown are really starting to show. I can't wait for the full results in 12 months! It's five month time (I know it's been longer than that!! Sorry work keeps getting in the way). This time I've pulled the hair back on the right and left so you can see how the extra grafts at the temples are coming through. I'll keep doing this from now on (promise ) I've also received a ton of questions since I did this first post so I'm going to try and post some more answers at the end of this thread as they keep coming in. It's the big six months next time and I'll try and update a bit quicker this time Happy Holidays for now, people!! Hope you like this journal and let me know if there's anything else you'd like to see or know! Cheers, Will

My five month update is up! Sorry for the delay!! Will

Sorry for the delay! My five month update is up (that's after operation 2 by the way) Will

Hiya, I went to see Dr De Reys in Belgium who is a top doctor (he used to be lead surgeon at the Pro Clinic) and he charges 7000 euros for 3000 grafts. Here's my journal: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html Good luck! Will

If you're in Sweden, why not try Dr De Reys in Belgium. It's not too far, he's quite cost-effective and he does fantastic work. Here's a link to my journal on the forum: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/165487-5000-fue-dr-de-reys.html Cheers, Will