SharpTooth

While I don't doubt his ability, I opted for another physician after a face-to-face consultation with Dr. Arocha. I had seen many of his before/after pics and thought they were great. Even now I still think they are great examples of his skill. But discussing/reviewing his pricing prompted me to choose another doctor. During my visit, his fees were presented but they were higher than many other physicians on the Hair Restoration forum. Also, when he quoted his price per graft, he sited Bosley as a reference point for his own pricing structure. After my visit I followed up with an email with some questions, including if his rates were negotiable, having found lower-priced procedures on this site by just as equally skilled surgeons. He answered all my questions but did not respond to his fees. I followed up with a 2nd email with additional questions about the procedure, including a repeat of my question on his fees being negotiable. Again he responded to all my questions but not the possibility of negotiating fees. Please know that I don't have a problem with any type of business and their pricing structures (except of course Starbucks --haha). I say if you have a great product/service, charge what you like. But I walked away feeling too uncomfortable with my experience in terms of discussing fees.

While I think the density in Christian Slater's frontal area looks great, I've never liked the shape of it. It's too triangular; doesn't look natural. While J. Deep may/may not have had one, i know in his movie Neverland, his hairline along the sides has receded some. So he definitely doesn't have all the hair he had 10 yrs ago. As far as rich men not doing the HT - i think some either just don't care or it doesn't bother them. I read one study that said about 20% of men don't care about their hair loss. I definitely wish i was in that 20%. ha

Hey Tom --- I've not been back on here since my last post. But to answer your question, my hair was about an inch long: no scar/stitches could be seen. If anything, you could grow your hair out just a bit longer. I'd doubt at that point anything would be seen. But also, by week 6, i could barely feel any of the cut in the donor area!! So much better suture job than Dr. Boles, of which after 9+ months, I can still feel a little ridge. grrr.....

I liked the guy at the end, his expression when asked why they promoted the doctor as a hair specialist, when he was a radiologist.

Hey Trebor don't feel bad. I am sorry for that crappy turn out. But Lord knows it could have been worse with horrible scarring. But like me, I think if you choose to have a 2nd procedure, choosing a doctor from THIS site will leave you with little/no regrets.

Still funny to think we met for all the part of 10 mins in her office the day after your procedure and the start of my own. But i remember seeing your forehead thinking, "Going to grow in very well!" It'll be good, my friend. It's just the waiting that's a drag!

To add to what Hairtobe said - WHen i had my first/smaller procedure by a doctor I had the small amounts of oozing/bleeding from donor area for about 36 hours after procedure. But when i had my procedure of 2000 grafts 2 days, no oozing/bleeding at all. Possible Dr Keene thinks because of the way she closes the donor area. One stitch internally that disolves and a 2nd stictching that's to be removed later. And while i'm sure there are other great dr.'s on here, if anyone's looking for a HT physician in the Southwest, do not hesitate to speak to Dr Keene. She's great! Just wished I used her for first procedure!

K - had my 2000 graft done last nite. Everything went great 254 1-hairs 596 2-hairs 750 3-hairs 448 4-hairs ( felt great when she told me some of the 1-hairs were actually multiple-haired grats cut to make the 1-hairs for the front of the hairlne. But I did ask for her opinion on my results from Dr. Boles: 1) she thought his translates were good, in fact, she said she couldn't tell the difference between his transplants and the natural hair! 2) I had a large triangle bald temple area that Dr. Boles in. Again, i knew it took a while for hairs to mature. But to me, that filled in area (almost 8 months later) just seem so sparse. Dr Keene said there were about 5 grafts per sq cm! I just reminded myself, "what the point was that amount??" Just still make me feel like he was just way too skimping on hair. 3) Her only other concenn was the donor area from Dr. Boles. First, the scar is a little wider than she'd expect. Didn't sound horrible, just could have been closed better. Also, Dr. Boles had pulled a strip of hair from an area of the back that had thinner/finer hair. Dr. Keene didn't know why he didn't pull a strip from where the hair was better/thicker - which is what Dr Keene did, that will give me much more thicker results. So --- there's an opinion of a "hair mill" doctor. Overall - I loved working with Dr. Keene!! I highly recommend her.

Hey Hairtobe - Was good to see your reults this AM in Dr. Keene's office. Hope it all fills in great!

Hey Tom5 - I will. But as just about everyone has said, I'd stick with a doctor from here unless you knew someone personally who'd used those other doctors. Again, I'll be curious about Dr. Keene's thoughts on my head and the results from Dr Boles of Nuhart. But will post her thoughts afterwards.

My 2nd procedure's been set for Wed Jan 28. I'm feeling the greedy hair monster within stir ...

My brother's seen a lot of thinning on his crown for the past year+, finding a lot of hairs on his pillow. He's been on finasteride for 5 months now and now sees only a few hairs when he wakes up. I've been on it for 2+ months now - we'll see what happens. But I did buy into the Provillus idea and got some. But seemed no different than off brand minoxidil, for a lot more money! I bought a small set of Nixon 9 months ago. Really liked it a lot. Made hair/scalp feel great! But since it was expensive, i bought a L'Oreal Vive Pro for Men Thickening Shampoo. Was so much cheaper and i gotta tell ya - my hair was much thicker. But after a couple of weeks on it, I went to my sister for a haircut. She freaked out at how dried/frizzy my hair become. So - ya sometimes do get what ya pay for. Since she's a hair/makeup artist, she was able to get the Nixoin at discount rate, so got back on it. It's not helped with hair loss but feels nice and tingly And I've noticed some thickening. Also, I color my hair with a newer product that has natural proteins in it. It really thickens my hair without the harsh chemicals.

I'm back! It's been 7 months since my first procedure of 800+ grafts by Dr. Boles of Nuhart. So far i've had no complaints other than feeling the # of grafts was just too conservative. After having "been there, done that, got the t-shirt" i'm scheduling a 2nd procedure to rebuild my hairline and build up my crown. So after more research on experience, skills, cost (not location), etc, I've opted to go with Dr. Keene of AZ, recognized by this forum. I know maturity of grafts can take up to 18 months, but after viewing my pics and a phone consultation, Dr. Keene confirmed my thoughts - the first procedure had only minimal mprovements. I'm really curious what she will think of a "hair mill." Thought some of you too would be interested in her thought. I'll update this post later in the month. Wish me luck.

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I've read a number of places where a "mature hairline" is normal for men as we age. I have a friend who's 42. He has the same hairline since i've known him almost 20 years. So while i've read thoughts that a mature man would not want the hairline of a teen, isn't that objective? Having the hairline of a teen? Just thinking what people general mean. I guess i'm just trying to understand what people mean. There was another post of a pic recently in which a 40 yr old man was offered by some Doctors on here to lower his hairline. But he was happy with his higher hairline - i think if i remember he just wanted more density. So when it's all said and done, and enough donor hair is available, couldn't a HT patient drag the hairline down to where he was a teen? So - just curious. Thanks!!

Stimpson - don't feel bad/embarressed. Seems to me since this field is still relatively new, hard to maybe make great choices - esp if it was that long ago and i'm sure there was so little literature (and forums like this) to help educate! Please - yea, although it wouldn't be another several months before a 2nd procedure i've competely gotten rid of the geography issue. That's for the reminder.

Hey Please - I think when i first started reading the posts here about a year ago, i was more focused on the procedure and not necessarily on the doctor - though i knew that was a key factor. But after reading more posts on here and thinking about WHO the next physician would be, I think i'll sleep better. I realized i chose Boles b/c i couldn't find anything negative about him anywhere. And though he may have possibly perfected his skill -- i don't really know. That's just enough for me to now choose a physician that this site raves about. Also, i was reminded - as a lot of posts says - don't let geography stop you from traveling. By the way, having done social work for a while and working with abused kids, the phrase "child molestor" and Boles are now stuck in my head. I don't think i could ever go back now. But again, man - really sorry you got hacked but really hope the correction has helped! And guys, thanks for the heads up/thoughts.

I'm becoming a believer in anti-nuhart now. ha First, man, i'm totally sorry, PLEASE. I've read some bad stories and sorry you were the crap end of that. I guess all that's left to do is the repair work, right? And sorry - type, 650 on my crown. My sister said that that looks like many of the transplants on the crown stayed put, still growing. But that tehy are falling foward like the natural hair. That's good, right? The other doctor i had looked into that seemed like a trusthworthy guy was one of the Limmers, Arocha or Frayser in Tulsa?

Hey everyone. I've been reading the threads on here for over a year now. I've learned so much from you guys -- know that it's been so appreciated!!! So i just signed on and wanted to give quick background on me then ask my question. I'm 39 and my hair started to thin 9 yrs ago - was a very slow process. But 18 months ago the right side of my crown became whispy and under the right light, was easy to see my crown. My crown had also began to receed a little - about 1.5 inches. At the same time just one of my temporals (the right) receeded and thinned pretty fast over a 9-10 months period utnil it was bare like a baby's butt -- it went back about an inch+ further than my other temporal that looks "normal." So here i was - a lot of thinning on the left of my crown and the right of my front. My overal frontal area thinned over the past 18 months also but i still have "visible coverage" -- but stand it up with gel, scalp galore, baby! So earlier this spring it seemed as though (I HOPE!) my hair stopped thinning - least the front/hairline. So we'll see what happens with that. But after 18 months of on/off research on cost, side effects, etc with medication, surgery, and my personal results, I opted for a HT. I'm a nerd when it comes to research - i want the most bang for my buck. But i also understand sometimes you get what you payfor. My keyword there was "sometimes." There's an agency here Dallas charging $10.00 a graft. They seemed really great and knew their stuff. But at $10.00, i just thought that way too much for a procedure that i'm sure others could do easily at 1/2 that cost. So after more research on docs, cost and end results i chose Dr. Mark Boles from NuHart. Now before anyone takes a hatchet to my head ... ha ha ... I did want to say that I was skeptial about them from some of the threads i read on here. But honestly a lot of the threads i read sounded as if they had only heard that Nuhart was badnews, don't remember seeing a lot from people who themselves had actually been there. But I did take comfort from a user called IslandGirl who went to Nuhart and sounded like she had great results - though she didn't mention the name of the doctor. I know the "hairmills" can have a bad reputation and have read else where some bad stories, Bosley in particular. But i also know that a private doctor outside of a "hairmill" can be just as destructive. I had my procedure of 830 grafts 3 months ago, about 6500 across my crown and the rest up front around my thinning temple. I had my hair cut tonite by my sister who's been in the hair/makeup for entertainers for 17 years. She was impressed with the results so far. I called some of Dr Boles clients before hand and even searched online for his name in case he had been named in some wierd/freak accident on a patients head. But couldn't find anything. He has been in the industry for several years and i thought the cost was very reasonable. Another thing that kind of impressed me - while i went in wanting a large number of grafts, he reigned me in and suggested a much more conservative number. He said he didn't want to waste my donor hair inc ase i needed them later -- i liked that he was thinking down the road. By the way, their staff was great too! So heres my question: I've read some amazing things about other doctors on this site. I almost feel like i know them. But for the price and what i've experienced so far, is there any reason why i should not go back to Dr. Boles for a 2nd procedure? Thanks everybody!! Also, you guys who moderate this --- THANKS!! I'm sure this site wouldn't be up if not for you two. I know it takes a lot of time to maintain so thanks!