Senior Member Rambler Posted May 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 I was under the impression that singles only are to be used on the immediate hairline. I have many doubles, too many I think. What is the consensus on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 19, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 I was under the impression that singles only are to be used on the immediate hairline. I have many doubles, too many I think. What is the consensus on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member HairTodayGoneTmrw Posted May 19, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 hey there, it was my understanding that a combination of singles and doubles are used in the hairline. Think of it like this, I seriously doubt your bodies natural hairline came in only singles. Rather a combination of singles and doubles. Perhaps some pics would give us a better feel of what your looking at. Anything worth doing is never easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 19, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks HairToday, I would post some pics but I pulled out the one hair of most the doubles and it looked better to me. I'm only at a little over 3 months so it's not mature yet and hard to tell how well the doubles will blend in once mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member its752 Posted May 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 Rambler, Who did yur work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Rambler, In my opinion, single hairs directly on the hairline provide the most natural appearance. Doubles can be used behind the hairline but may have a tendency to look unnatural if applied directly on the hairline. Be sure to consult with your physician and ask him about what he did and his reasons. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 19, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 Bill, Right I agree. I was told that only singles were used on the hairline with my procedure which is why I am surprised there are so many doubles there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Rambler, I just looked at your blog and see that Dr. Hasson was your physician. Dr. Hasson only uses single in the hairline. Maybe the singles are so densely packed together that they appear like doubles? Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted May 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 Rambler, I highly doubt that you are seeing all the hairs that are going to sprout in your hairline. At this stage ( only three months), only a small percentage of your total graft count is coming through so just try to be patient and wait it out. You'll have more grafts coming in and the final result should show a big difference. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member The Goz Posted May 19, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 On average 50% of follicular units are 2 hairs, 25% 1 and 25% 3 or more. At any time 10% of your hairs are in the resting phase. At that time it is difficult to see those resting even under the best magnification. It's possible that some of the 2 hairs were cut as one but had one "hiding". It's also possible that some of the 2 hair FU were put in the holding receptacle with the singles by mistake. As others have stated wait for full growth and then evaluate the look. What ever you do DO NOT pull the hairs out you could damage or kill the follicle if done repeatedly. Be patient and good luck I am a hair restoration client and have 10 years experience in the hair restoration industry, all my views are my own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted May 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 It's also possible that some of the 2 hair FU were put in the holding receptacle with the singles by mistake. It would be possible but only if the techs were unsupervised rookies. Rambler's techs were anything but. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 19, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 Bill, No, they are definitely double units. Jotronic, Actually I believe all of the hairs directly on the hairline have sprouted. The 2's I'm seeing are mostly in the temporal area hairline. Along the front they are all singles. I'll give it another month or so and when they grow back I'll send you a pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member HairTodayGoneTmrw Posted May 19, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted May 19, 2008 I would give it more time to determine the outcome of the HT. wait at least until the 6 or 9 month mark to analyze what are singles and doubles. Looking at my hairline immediately after surgery its still hard to tell exactly what was done w/out a magnifying glass or some sort of magnification Anything worth doing is never easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Rambler, I agree with Joe to give it time. Perhaps the hairs that have grown in at this early stage are actually behind the hairline and the hair in front hasn't sprouted yet. Feel free to post a picture so we can see what you are referring to. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 20, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Bill, I'll give it more time but I'm pretty sure all of the hairs on the immediate hairline have sprouted, especially in the temporals. As I said, the frontal hairline appears to be all singles, but the temporals are where there are 2's up front. Here's a photo (w/flash) of a temporal but I already halved out the 2's. I'm pretty sure there aren't any more coming in in front of what's there in this area .. with the exception of the very top corner. There are a few there ready to come out. I'm 3.5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Grateful Head Posted May 20, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Good Lord Rambler, it looks pretty good to me. If someone notices that they'll likely have you sedated and preparing for an operation on that area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dakota3 Posted May 20, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Rambler, Im not sure i see what you're talking about? It looks great! Especially for only being at 3 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dewayne Posted May 20, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by Jotronic:It's also possible that some of the 2 hair FU were put in the holding receptacle with the singles by mistake. It would be possible but only if the techs were unsupervised rookies. Rambler's techs were anything but. This would be a perfect time to bring up a previous debate, regarding whether it matters if the doc places any / most / none of the grafts. I highly doubt this is possible at H&W, but if there is a chance; wouldn't it be more likely to be caught if the doctor is placing grafts along side a tech? Now, I think there are other good effects of the doctor doing this, but here is just an example. I only bring this up as the phoneguy and I were scoffed at for putting any importance to this apparant phenomenon.... As Dr. Feller would say, case closed! Note, this has nothing to do with H&W as I think their reputation is great. But, I'm just using this thread as an example. 100? 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.66 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - every now and then AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 20, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Grateful, dakota, Guys, I halved out the 2's so they are not there in the pic. I'll give it more time as the others have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted May 20, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Rambler you have nothing to worry about . My doctor placed ALL my grafts my first surgery and he put 2 hair grafts in the hairline. Of course this was Nuhart but Ive read hundreds of testimonies about how all the top clinics doctors come in and out all through surgery and most importantly CHECK the work when its completed. By the way H@W will not let "rookies" place grafts. Anyone new once trained will start at the cutting table or somewhere else. There are different levels of techs at each place. More then half the doctors do the hairline themselves then let the techs take over. Youve seen the H@W website and hundreds of pics on here. Dewaynes doc Dr Cooley places half of the grafts which is great now go look at his website and ask yourself does it really matter . who places the grafts. What matters is WHERE you go . I know any little comment that anyone makes at this state can effect you . Dont believe the hype and youll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 20, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Thanks PGP, I'll hang in there and wait for more growth/maturation etc.. Like spex said it is very early days still and it can not be judged by what is here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Rambler, What do you mean you "halved out the twos". Did you pluck them? Either way, give it time for your hair transplant to grow out. From what I can see in the pictures so far, it looks great. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted May 20, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Bill you mean Rambler I hope your not plucking them. If you have been dont worry they will grow back . I use to pluck the 10 twos that sob put in my hairline but doing so your taking a chance they could be destroyed .I pucked mine every month for a year and they all grew back .Now they are hidden by singles .Thank you Dr Shapiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Whoops PGP. You are correct . I meant Rambler. I modified my post. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rambler Posted May 20, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2008 Bill, yes that's what I mean. I plucked out 1 of the 2's that were together to see if it would make a difference visually. With just single hairs it looks fine, but doubles on the hairline just look too big. I really don't think any more single hairs are going to grow in front of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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