Regular Member KLD2246 Posted July 10, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted July 10, 2009 TAX REFUND SPECIAL! 2000 Grafts, 5000 Hairs for $3500 That's Less than $1 Per Hair! Has anyone every used this guy before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Speegs Posted July 10, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 10, 2009 Sounds suspicious, the title alone sounds like a sales pitch and not a medical practitioner. Hair loss patient and transplant veteran. Once a Norwood 3A. Received 2,700 grafts with coalition doctor on 8/13/2010 Received 2,380 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 9/30/2011 Received 1,820 grafts with Dr. Steven Gabel on 7/28/2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member KLD2246 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 10, 2009 TAX REFUND SPECIAL FLAT RATE SURGERY SESSIONS: **** x 2.5 hairs per graft average used, areas are divided into 3 zones. **** Some companies use 3 hairs per graft average per graft to determine the number of hairs. **** Some companies use 1-4 zones to determine area. 0-1500 GRAFTS / up to 3750 hairs / 1 zone / $2800 / Minimal loss usually class 2-3 Norwood front hairline and corner work only. 1501-2000 GRAFTS / up to 5000 hairs / 1-2 zones / $3500 / Norwood 3-4 moderate frontal loss and some crown loss. 2001-2500 GRAFTS / up to 6250 hairs / 1-2 zones / $4800 / Norwood 4-5 2501-3500 GRAFTS / up to 8750 hairs / 1-3 zones / $6000 / Norwood 4-6 3501-4500 GRAFTS / up to 11,500 hairs / 1-3 zones / $7000 / Norwood 4-6 Here is the actual break down on the costs. (promotional link removed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member KLD2246 Posted July 10, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 10, 2009 I have $6000 to spend on my crown area and of course, that would be a lot of grafts (2500 - 3500) but worry that it maybe to good to be true. Its like someone offering you a new Mercedes for $25,000 when you know the real cost is around $50,000. Something must be wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairHope Posted July 10, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 10, 2009 Such a deal, I'd give my left forehead for that deal. Dec. 2004 - 1938 Grafts via Strip Feb. 2009 - 1002 Grafts via FUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairIsThere Posted July 10, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 10, 2009 Ehhhhhh....sounds like some beverly hills desperation to me..be very careful man..sounds like one of those commercials with all that tiny tiny writing on the bottom that "flashes" on the screen for about 1.5 seconds and disappears... - 1 HT ~ 3000 grafts - Regimen: Propecia 1X daily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Forrest Gump Posted July 11, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2009 I'll wait till they have the "buy 1, get one free" promotion Jokes aside, do your research and see if you get a good feeling about this place and the results they're turning out. It all boils down to what your goals are and whether they'll be able to fulfill those goals. The price does seem to be quite low, but usually in life you get what you pay for - so research carefully. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dewayne Posted July 11, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2009 Honestly, you better consider price as about the third or fourth consideration in all this. My first transplant was only $3000, but I was pretty much in hiding for 17 years. The cheapest thing to do is shave it, but if you want it to be unnoticeable and look good; go to Dr. Cooley, Wong, Feller, Shapiro, Lindsey, etc. and narrow it down based on distance and price from THAT group. 100? 'mini' grapfts by Latham's Hair Clinic - 1991 (Removed 50 plugs by Cooley 3/08.) 2750 FU 3/20/08 by Dr. Cooley My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Current regimen: 1.66 mg Proscar M-W-F Rogaine 5% Foam - every now and then AndroGel - once daily Lipitor - 5 mg every other day Weightlifting - 2x per week Jogging - 3x per week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Godzluv69 Posted July 11, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted July 11, 2009 l read the guy website, he indicated his hair transplantation training is from the hair mill company: MRI. But then again, it could his price is lower than the standard rate because he is just starting his own practice. Just because the price rate of a particular transplant doctor is lower than the rate charge by coalition doctors does not mean the doctor is bad. Result is the key. He did explain what he thinks is wrong with the hair transplant industry. The tricks transplant doctors play in decieving patients(l guess from exprience)If he is really good as he claim time will tell. The general advice is do research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vincehair Posted July 11, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2009 That website keeps saying "Surgeons" i would like to know who is doing my Ht not some random phantom doctor. Tell Pat to go and visit this place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vincehair Posted July 11, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2009 2 links from this forum... http://hair-restoration-info.c.../m/9231032383/inc/-1 http://hair-restoration-info.c...981046663#5981046663 Thats all that comes up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Without a Comb Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 So has anyone ever went to this guy? Just wondering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member petergibbons Posted October 3, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted October 3, 2009 I went to Dr. Chao on 9/18/2009. I paid $6,000 for 3500 grafts FUSS. They do not do FUE and since I had a scar from a 2002 operation there was no point in doing FUE. I also have no plans to shave my head and if I do, I'll worry about that then. I suppose any clinic will do FUE if you offer to pay them but it's labor intensive and the transection rates are high. I have diffuse thinning on top with the potential for a NW3v so this is hopefully my terminal hair transplant. I have been taking 1.25 mg generic proscar every day. I am 32 years old and my loss seems to have stabilized. From my donor area, they were able to extract 3,703 follicular unit grafts as follows: 602 1's, 1676 2's, 1020 3's, and 405 4's. No 5's but very few people have those. I have typically "Jewish" hair so it is wavy and brown. I have a very light complexion so that might add a complication but I can always get a tan later I was leery of going somewhere that charged so little but the facility does hair transplants six days a week and is a very lean operation. The owner of the company, Rob, also does the consultations and he is a patient of Dr. Chao. I have every reason to believe that they make a ton of money. There were no hidden fees. I paid a flat $6,000 and it included all medications. It does not include graftcyte but you can probably buy that elsewhere. I was very pleased with the attitude and the cleanliness of the clinic. They do make money selling other products such as laser hoods and they do other cosmetic procedures which are probably higher margin. A hair transplant is very labor intensive but you can make a living as an individual doctor doing these if you have loyal support staff. I've studied the financials of it and it's very similar to the cost breakdown for any small doctor offices. I believe they are completely happy with their take home. All of their advertising is done on Google and by referrals and every time I have gone in there, even on Saturday 10/3 to have my sutures removed they were doing a procedure. The hairline design is very reasonable. I'd call it a NW2 with conservative density in front. You don't need more than about 30 follicles/cm2 at the hairline anyway so he was able to populate the other diffuse areas on my head. I spoke to several other doctors including MHR, who did my procedure in 2002 but I got a really good feeling about Dr. Chao. Some people are obsessed about hairline design and hair transplantation and he is one of those people. I am not paid in any compensation by Dr. Chao but I am definitely willing to put in a good word. I'm more than willing to be a reference. I think you should give them a chance. If you don't have a good feeling, then go somewhere else. It's really an interview process. The price is very nice too. I paid by check and have no debt from this procedure. I will not speak ill of any other doctors but I knew from my thinning that someone trying to sell me a 1500 graft procedure was trying to under-sell and get me in later, and there were several of those. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcruz1973 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 KLD2246, First off, I'm not being compensated nor have any benefit for what I'm about to say.... And that is, Dr. Ron Chao, is legit. I had my procedure done with him last year July 2010. One of the main things that I could comment about is that of his professionalism and hospitality of his staff. They even treat their patients to a free lunch due to that the procedure takes so long. I had the Norwood 4-6 done. I have no complaints about my experience except that I wasn't informed as to what my actual graft counts was when my procedure was completed. I'm not sure why they did not respond to me, but in any case... I have no complaints about how my results came out. Dr. Ron Chao did exactly like I asked and spread it around the top of my head in the spots that I requested. However, I now found out that this was my wrong doing due to that the implantations didn't give me the density that others have gotten from their one procedure. In any case, to answer your question... Dr. Ron Chao is legitiment and I don't think you would be in any better place for your procedure to be performed than with Dr. Ron Chao. Like I said, his professionalism, hospitality, friendliness, and his staff's ability to make one feel so comfortable is well worth the price being paid. In fact, I now believe that all those other Dr.'s out there are really overpricing their procedures. When it comes to a Dr. that knows what he's doing and is that experienced and trained, but still that Dr. only charges like $0.60/ per graft??? That just tells me all those other Dr.'s out there are just taking advantage of their customers. There really shouldn't be any reason why one should be charged anywhere from $3.80 - $6.00 / graft. It's just highway robbery! Bottomline, I assure you, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to going to Dr. Chao for your procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcruz1973 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Peter, I agree with you. I had my procedure done with Dr. Chao last year July 2010 as well. And I too, had a great experience with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mp96 Posted May 22, 2011 Senior Member Share Posted May 22, 2011 I'm not putting down this doc, but i would be careful about this so-called "deal." I learned from this and if it sounds too good than it probabley isn't. You should be careful because u dont want to look worse off than where u are right now.,, U don't want some clinic telling you a year after your surgery that they did what they did to u because of your "situation" and then request more money out of you to get your desired result or fix what they screwed up. Just a warning!! Not saying this doc will do this either. but it is a possibillity. If u don't have the funds than dont do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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