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Hi all, looking for some advice please.

I became interested in HT's a couple of months ago after having SMP and using hair systems the past couple of years. I have fairly extensive hair loss (NW6), 37 yo from the UK.

My initial search resulted in finding Smile Hair Clinic, further reading has cast doubts on their abilities/ethics. Then found Dr Kongkiar Laorwong, who replied to my first inquiry and then stopped replying which was disappointing as I'm going to be Thailand next year.

Finally found this site and subsequently Eugenix, where guys here in a similar situation to mine have had incredible results. But those exceptional results all seem to have been with the top Doctors at Eugenix. Dr Sethi, Bansal and Das.

I've now contacted Eugenix, who responded quickly and provided an excellent breakdown of my options and package plans (5700 grafts for full coverage). I went in hoping I could get Dr Sethi/Bansal/Das based on the results I'd seen of their work here. However the price for these Doctors has increased significantly, to the point where they are all well beyond my budget.

I came into this with Smile Hair Clinic prices of 3,200 EUR in my head. This was quickly put bed. At a stretch, I can budget around £7-8k. This would only get a me standard/senior Eugenix Doctor package. Not one of the Doctors that have top billing and have demonstrated such great results here (especially with people in a similar situation to mine).

I'm at the point now with Eugenix where I was with Smile, in that I'd be going for an operation blind with an unnamed/unknown doctor, where I have no knowledge of their track record/results (and paying twice the amount for it). This is something I'm especially concerned with given my more extensive hair loss situation. 

To my question, does anyone here have experience/knowledge of results at Eugenix with one of the team of Standard/Senior Doctors (e.g. not Sethi/Bansal/Das)? Ideally I'd be looking for recommendations with someone who's work and results I can review, and then I can ask Eugenix if they're available to do the procedure?

Thanks all in advance for any help/advice you can offer. After lurking here for awhile it seems like a fantastic community.

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I'm not an expert on the Eugenix packages/ prices but there are many patients on here so they should be able to help provide the information.

I'd certainly avoid smile at all costs - there have been several cases I've seen where they've decimated the donor area. In your position, every graft counts so it's really important not to be tempted by the low price and guarantees of success they may provide.

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Thank you for your input chaps, I really appreciate your thoughts.

Smile Hair Clinic/Hair Mills in general are definitely no longer being considered. I don't think I have sufficient donor capacity (not to mention the funds) to get this wrong.

Thanks for sharing your story and recommendation or Dr Somesh @LRiv91_. I'll be following your post and hoping you have a speedy recovery. Wishing you all the best with the transplant, looks great so far.

And thanks @jjalay for mentioning the other clinics. I have seen them mentioned but not looked into them in detail, as it's been challenging to find higher Norwood success stories (which is probably why I locked in on Eugenix). I'll definitely check them out.

For reference here's what I have to work with. I normally keep it skin shaved due to the SMP (this is 5 days growth)...

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45 minutes ago, UKAlex said:

At a stretch, I can budget around £7-8k.

And how much more could you push that to in 12-24 months' time?

My point is, you'll have better options if you wait. Not only will your budget be better and open you up to your preferred options, but other clinics may emerge as candidates in the meantime.

You'll likely be absolutely fine with one of the lower tier Eugenix packages - all their doctors and technicians are very very good. But if you want Dr Das or Dr Arika then you should wait.

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It will be difficult to achieve good coverage without using beard grafts. Your donor is weak. Are you on finasteride? Iwould strongly suggest to get on finasteride to try and strenghten your donor for at least 6 months to 1 year and save up a little bit more for your ht. There are not many doctors that can take you as a patient and give you good result. In your case i would look at dr. Pitella in Brazil and dr. Zarev in Bulgaria. They are more expensive but definitely worth the cost.

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Thanks @Berba11, you may very will be right, putting my plans on pause and saving money could be the end result of this. I'm glad I posted here to check rather than just speeding ahead and paying a deposit (which I probably would have done).

Good eye @jjalay,I do have SMP. It's very subtle because of how much grey hair I have. I've had 2/3 sessions. 3rd session is due in December.

With regards to strength of the donor area, because of the significant grey hair, it can be difficult to take photos that accurately show the strength of the donor area. Here's another picture I sent to Eugenix, which hopefully better shows the grey hair (and may show that the donor area is hopefully a little stronger than those initial images I shared may suggest).

EDIT: Eugenix quoted 4500 scalp grafts & 1200 beard grafts (5700 total).

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1 hour ago, UKAlex said:

Hi all, looking for some advice please.

I became interested in HT's a couple of months ago after having SMP and using hair systems the past couple of years. I have fairly extensive hair loss (NW6), 37 yo from the UK.

My initial search resulted in finding Smile Hair Clinic, further reading has cast doubts on their abilities/ethics. Then found Dr Kongkiar Laorwong, who replied to my first inquiry and then stopped replying which was disappointing as I'm going to be Thailand next year.

Finally found this site and subsequently Eugenix, where guys here in a similar situation to mine have had incredible results. But those exceptional results all seem to have been with the top Doctors at Eugenix. Dr Sethi, Bansal and Das.

I've now contacted Eugenix, who responded quickly and provided an excellent breakdown of my options and package plans (5700 grafts for full coverage). I went in hoping I could get Dr Sethi/Bansal/Das based on the results I'd seen of their work here. However the price for these Doctors has increased significantly, to the point where they are all well beyond my budget.

I came into this with Smile Hair Clinic prices of 3,200 EUR in my head. This was quickly put bed. At a stretch, I can budget around £7-8k. This would only get a me standard/senior Eugenix Doctor package. Not one of the Doctors that have top billing and have demonstrated such great results here (especially with people in a similar situation to mine).

I'm at the point now with Eugenix where I was with Smile, in that I'd be going for an operation blind with an unnamed/unknown doctor, where I have no knowledge of their track record/results (and paying twice the amount for it). This is something I'm especially concerned with given my more extensive hair loss situation. 

To my question, does anyone here have experience/knowledge of results at Eugenix with one of the team of Standard/Senior Doctors (e.g. not Sethi/Bansal/Das)? Ideally I'd be looking for recommendations with someone who's work and results I can review, and then I can ask Eugenix if they're available to do the procedure?

Thanks all in advance for any help/advice you can offer. After lurking here for awhile it seems like a fantastic community.

Dr soumesh is a good affordable option at Eugenix hair sciences. There are some patients that selected Dr soumesh from Eugenix. He is in the esxlusive package which is 1.32 Euro/graft...
Otherwise you could look at other good afforable options in turkey such as Dr Yaman, FueCapilar, and Dr Demirsoy.

You have a large area to cover so you will definitely need to use all of your donor and beard grafts too together with finasteride.

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3 hours ago, UKAlex said:

Hi all, looking for some advice please.

I became interested in HT's a couple of months ago after having SMP and using hair systems the past couple of years. I have fairly extensive hair loss (NW6), 37 yo from the UK.

My initial search resulted in finding Smile Hair Clinic, further reading has cast doubts on their abilities/ethics. Then found Dr Kongkiar Laorwong, who replied to my first inquiry and then stopped replying which was disappointing as I'm going to be Thailand next year.

Finally found this site and subsequently Eugenix, where guys here in a similar situation to mine have had incredible results. But those exceptional results all seem to have been with the top Doctors at Eugenix. Dr Sethi, Bansal and Das.

I've now contacted Eugenix, who responded quickly and provided an excellent breakdown of my options and package plans (5700 grafts for full coverage). I went in hoping I could get Dr Sethi/Bansal/Das based on the results I'd seen of their work here. However the price for these Doctors has increased significantly, to the point where they are all well beyond my budget.

I came into this with Smile Hair Clinic prices of 3,200 EUR in my head. This was quickly put bed. At a stretch, I can budget around £7-8k. This would only get a me standard/senior Eugenix Doctor package. Not one of the Doctors that have top billing and have demonstrated such great results here (especially with people in a similar situation to mine).

I'm at the point now with Eugenix where I was with Smile, in that I'd be going for an operation blind with an unnamed/unknown doctor, where I have no knowledge of their track record/results (and paying twice the amount for it). This is something I'm especially concerned with given my more extensive hair loss situation. 

To my question, does anyone here have experience/knowledge of results at Eugenix with one of the team of Standard/Senior Doctors (e.g. not Sethi/Bansal/Das)? Ideally I'd be looking for recommendations with someone who's work and results I can review, and then I can ask Eugenix if they're available to do the procedure?

Thanks all in advance for any help/advice you can offer. After lurking here for awhile it seems like a fantastic community.

If you’ve time you can read my post where I shared every details. Dr. Somesh ,is an excellent surgeon and highly knowledgeable. To be honest, before finalising him i was also quite confused because during that time (Feb,2023)I didn’t find much resources of his work. But after the video call I got the assurance. Moreover, when I met him for the very first time I was highly impressed by his knowledge and his dedication towards a patient. The way he handled my case I still have no words to thank him enough. No matter which package you select with Eugenix, you're good to go. there will be no difference except the Dr. Same infrastructure would be followed for every patients.

You can ask for a video call with Dr. Somesh to discuss about the planning for your case

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Thanks @Shadman, I actually read your thread and Stewie's today once I heard that Dr Somesh was the Exclusive Package Doctor. I've been really impressed by his work and the testimonials you both gave.

A chap from Eugenix called me a couple a couple of hours ago, he was absolutely fantastic. We talked me through everything, and he put together a custom package for me that I'm extremely happy with. I can see why they have such an outstanding reputation.

 I'll create a new post detailing my journey when it begins (pencilled in for April next year). Thanks to you and everyone else here for your advice today, I'm really grateful.

After a few weeks of going down the HT rabbit hole, it's a great feeling to now have something booked with people who I feel I can trust. 

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