BaldingBosnian's Story: 2500-2600 grafts with Dr. Dogan Turan (FUECAPILLAR)

[Anon94]

Your experience on the day definitely doesn't sound great. But at least the work up front honestly looks great. 

It looks plenty dense with good graft angulation and nice small irregularities in the hairline. The crown definitely wasn't transplanted as dense, but it probably also wasn't necessary from your pre-op pics. You still had decent coverage there. 

Don't let their bad manners and subpar treatment of you as a patient make you think this won't turn out well. This will surely look great come spring. 

[Ramin]

Thank you for sharing your experience, I booked my spot with Dr. Turan on March 2024, and now I'm concern about my surgery on future. I hope you a good result at the end, and hopefully a representative from Fuecapilar will answer the question and concerns, otherwise I should rethink about the clinic I want to go with!

[sxsxhair]

On 12/16/2023 at 4:31 AM, translator said:

@baldingbosnian I'm scheduled with dr Turan in April 2024 and this concerns me a bit

i'm scheduled in two months and this also concerns me 

[Callum998]

On 12/18/2023 at 4:41 PM, luckyg said:

Long tine lurker here for reseach purposes and have Dr Turan booked  for February. This is not good to read and I'm now concerned and on verge of cancelling. It seems that the patient is treated like another number, no personal attention. Doctor doesn't want to be there

I wish someone from a recent visit could allay my fears. A doctor is only as good as their last operation so what reputation that is built up is immediately forgotten for a doctor who seems to not care anymore. 

 

On 12/18/2023 at 11:05 PM, Ramin said:

Thank you for sharing your experience, I booked my spot with Dr. Turan on March 2024, and now I'm concern about my surgery on future. I hope you a good result at the end, and hopefully a representative from Fuecapilar will answer the question and concerns, otherwise I should rethink about the clinic I want to go with!

 

On 12/28/2023 at 10:55 PM, sxsxhair said:

i'm scheduled in two months and this also concerns me 

 

hi guys I visited FUE on December 13th. Pretty happy with my results, I definitely wouldn’t worry. The work he does is pretty good. As for standards of practice hygiene etc it’s probably about as good as you can expect from Turkey and not USA/UK clinic. If you’de like more pictures or info then let me know. I got 3660 grafts. Was quoted 2.5-3.5k grafts I believe. 

my brother also got 4,000

~grafts the next day.

if you want pictures or more info then let me know. Callum889dt@yahoo.co.uk is my email since I probably won’t check this thread. 

[Electric]

So stressful. So sorry.

Edited January 8 by Electric
responded to wrong post- would like to delete

[Reina]

The work looks great with high density in the front and natural angulation of grafts. On the crown you did a have a small problem so I do think you didn’t need more grafts for that area. If more grafts had been implanted on crown then shock loss to your native hair could occur.

Regarding for hygiene I don’t think there’s generally any problem as most patients didn’t have complain.  But @FUECAPILAR can sort this out. 
 

Edited January 4 by Reina

[translator]

Can @FUECAPILAR comment on this topic please?

[FUECAPILAR]

53 minutes ago, translator said:

Can @FUECAPILAR comment on this topic please?

Hello @translator,

Thanks for involving us in the conversation. 

Firstly, we would like the community to know that every single point addressed by our patient in this threat was explained to him in detail in a written format on October 31st 2023. Due to the GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) we unfortunately cannot disclose any information shared with the patient without his consent. Having said that, we give our consent for the patient to disclose the information and explanation provided by us.

We also would like to use this chance to remind our patient to kindly reply to our messages and send us his photos so we can continue providing him with post-operative care.

Best regards

[luckyg]

On 1/1/2024 at 1:10 AM, Callum998 said:

 

 

 

hi guys I visited FUE on December 13th. Pretty happy with my results, I definitely wouldn’t worry. The work he does is pretty good. As for standards of practice hygiene etc it’s probably about as good as you can expect from Turkey and not USA/UK clinic. If you’de like more pictures or info then let me know. I got 3660 grafts. Was quoted 2.5-3.5k grafts I believe. 

my brother also got 4,000

~grafts the next day.

if you want pictures or more info then let me know. Callum889dt@yahoo.co.uk is my email since I probably won’t check this thread. 

Thanks good to know. I'm actually going to be there in exactly 2 weeks ! I'm glad FUECapilar are not shying away from this thread and addressing the OPs concerns . I'm going to trust in Dr Turan and his team. His work comes recommended by mods here and others like Callum here. 

I'm getting a lot of work done and it's a big deal for me and everyone here who puts themselves through this. I'm a stubborn middle aged man and want to feel that everyone in that surgery is focused on making this the best experience and result for me. 

I'll report back but I'm confident I'm in good hands.

[translator]

@FUECAPILAR Appreciate your comment, however, we don't ask for the personal data to be revealed so don't see any GDPR issue in addressing the particular problems patient brought up here. I'm scheduled  in April and wouldn't like to see dr. give up on me in the middle of the procedure.

I understand it is a routine for dr. which he does every single day but for me and all of us its about one head we have and as @luckyg said: it is a 'big deal' and we want to trust dr. and his team. 

[FUECAPILAR]

12 minutes ago, translator said:

@FUECAPILAR Appreciate your comment, however, we don't ask for the personal data to be revealed so don't see any GDPR issue in addressing the particular problems patient brought up here. I'm scheduled  in April and wouldn't like to see dr. give up on me in the middle of the procedure.

I understand it is a routine for dr. which he does every single day but for me and all of us its about one head we have and as @luckyg said: it is a 'big deal' and we want to trust dr. and his team. 

Hello @translator,

Dr Turan is the only person performing the implantation in all his patients. Having said this, we do have other doctors in training and they participate in the hair transplants, BUT when this happens Dr Turan always asks and explains this to the patient, and he needs to consent to it.

Hope this clarifies the subject and remove any doubt you may have.

Best regards

[translator]

@FUECAPILAR Thank you for the reply. This is why we chose dr Turan in the first place - because of the good reviews and recommendation in the forum. 

[baldingbosnian]

On 1/9/2024 at 2:25 AM, FUECAPILAR said:

Hello @translator,

Dr Turan is the only person performing the implantation in all his patients. Having said this, we do have other doctors in training and they participate in the hair transplants, BUT when this happens Dr Turan always asks and explains this to the patient, and he needs to consent to it.

Hope this clarifies the subject and remove any doubt you may have.

Best regards

False.

Dr. Turan did not ask and explain this to me that someone else would work on my crown. I would like to add that the agreement says Dr. Turan does all the transplants. 

Also, I did not give a verbal consent. All I saw was Dr. Turan leaving for the night after finishing my hairline and someone behind me immediately started working on my crown. At this point what do you do? You travel thousands miles over seas and you have no choice now, might as well have them finish it. I just didn’t think it would be so poor, even if it was another “trained doctor”, which I highly doubt it was. I remember there being one other doctor a woman, and she was not behind me working on my crown. It was a man. And it was more than likely a nurse or medical assistant, as those were the only other people I saw there.

And this about principle, respect, and honoring your agreement of Dr. Turan doing all the transplants. 
 

By the way, I refused to communicate with FUECapillar any further after they said they followed all hygienic procedures , which they did not. They tried contacting me, but I will not answer them. They rubbed me the wrong way by stating that none of the nurses had their masks down or the fact that one took the same gloves and put them back on and saying it was because of the drug that I misinterpreted it. I was alert and oriented through the whole procedure, and I know what a sterile field is, since I’m in the medical profession myself.
 

I just hope my transplant experience will give other future transplant patients a better one. That’s all. I have nothing to gain from this. I’m just here to give my personal experience of what happened to me so that’s other members can be aware.
 

I’ll continue to post updates on my hair. 
 

 

Edited January 23 by baldingbosnian

[baldingbosnian]

3 month update:

I decided to get a buzz cut because of the ugly duckling phase. 

crown:

 

hairline: a lot of the hair here is growing upwards directions. Is that typical?

 

 

Back donor: Does it appear patchy? Is that shock loss? Would love to know. Bottom left is where you really see it.

Edited January 23 by baldingbosnian

[Recedingnomore]

Yes. Looks like shock loss. I had pretty bad shock loss into my third or fourth month so I am pretty sure yours will clear up soon. 
 

I just read your comment about your experience at Turans office. Sorry you had to go through that. However, the procedure is done and there’s nothing you can do about it now. I hope you remain optimistic and continue to see results. Month four is when I started seeing results and feeling comfortable enough not to wear a hat all the time. I hope you get to that stage soon. Continue doing your post op care and all the things that make you feel more confident. Post your progress as that is the only way you can rectify this (for now) if you feel slighted. But to be honest, your results look pretty typical for three months in and I believe you’ll have a better outlook in a month or two. 
 

Chin up. Better days are ahead. Ugly duckling phase is only a phase. 

[FUECAPILAR]

23 hours ago, baldingbosnian said:

False.

Dr. Turan did not ask and explain this to me that someone else would work on my crown. I would like to add that the agreement says Dr. Turan does all the transplants. 

Also, I did not give a verbal consent. All I saw was Dr. Turan leaving for the night after finishing my hairline and someone behind me immediately started working on my crown. At this point what do you do? You travel thousands miles over seas and you have no choice now, might as well have them finish it. I just didn’t think it would be so poor, even if it was another “trained doctor”, which I highly doubt it was. I remember there being one other doctor a woman, and she was not behind me working on my crown. It was a man. And it was more than likely a nurse or medical assistant, as those were the only people I met there. 

And this about principle, respect, and honoring your agreement of Dr. Turan doing all the transplants. 
 

By the way, I refused to communicate with FUECapillar any further after they denied that they were hygienic, which they were not. They tried contacting me, but I will not answer them. They rubbed me the wrong way by stating that none of the nurses had their masks down or the fact that one took the same gloves and put them back on and saying it was because of the drug that I misinterpreted it.
 

I just hope my experience and calling them out will give other future transplant patients a better one. 

 

Dear @baldingbosnian,

Let us be abundantly clear on this topic one last time.

Since 2019, Dr Turan has only had two doctors in training, and both of them were female. There has never been a male doctor in our practice besides Dr Turan.

Regarding a male person other than Dr. Turan implanting on your scalp:
- After the second extraction and implantation session, Dr. Turan asked for additional grafts for your crown. Please note that at this point (after the second extraction), 2641 grafts were already extracted and implanted. 
- Dr Turan called in his extraction specialist, -he is the male person that you are referring to- to perform an additional extraction of 182 grafts. 
- As pointed out by Dr. Turan during the consultation, you have a high density of native hair in the crown area and taking into consideration your age and the possible progression of the hair loss in the area, Dr. Turan performed the implantation in between your native hair, not on top of your native hair. 
- The 182 grafts were extracted using the manual punch, the grafts were harvested by the nurses and Dr Turan finished the implantation on the crown. 

Hope this clarifies the issue.

[Myles23]

On 12/18/2023 at 4:41 PM, luckyg said:

Long tine lurker here for reseach purposes and have Dr Turan booked  for February. This is not good to read and I'm now concerned and on verge of cancelling. It seems that the patient is treated like another number, no personal attention. Doctor doesn't want to be there

I wish someone from a recent visit could allay my fears. A doctor is only as good as their last operation so what reputation that is built up is immediately forgotten for a doctor who seems to not care anymore. 

I had my procedure last Wednesday with Dr Turan if you want to check my thread . 

[baldingbosnian]

Dr. Turan did not do my crown. 
 

I have nothing to gain by lying if you’re assuming that’s what I’m doing. Dr. Turan left and never came back through the door operating room door after my hairline was finished and never came back. The next time I saw Dr. Turan was in the morning. He was not there for the crown portion. 

Gaslight me all you want. But I will tell my side of the story and my personal experience. Again, I have no reason to fabricate this. I’m not here to fear monger, I’m simple stating what my experience was. This is what this forum is for. 

I’ll post more results at 4 month mark.

 

 

Thank you everyone that is following.

[htus]

@luckygHow was your experience? How was the pain? Did you leave the day after the surgery? Thanks

[luckyg]

14 minutes ago, htus said:

@luckygHow was your experience? How was the pain? Did you leave the day after the surgery? Thanks

Hi htus, I found it efficent and organised. Interaction with Dr Turan is not ideal as there's a language barrier but with interpreter u get your message across. I told them pack the front, I'm nw5a and I'm 6'2", no one sees my crown ! I can go back for 2nd op.

Pain is a sting, no biggie. It's the sleeping on your back, for me my donor felt  like sunburn. Sleep a disaster.

I left day after, Istanbul was wet and cold and who wants stared gazes at your beaming red skin head!

Time will tell if its a success but so far so good, scabs all gone on day 9.

[htus]

3 minutes ago, luckyg said:

Hi htus, I found it efficent and organised. Interaction with Dr Turan is not ideal as there's a language barrier but with interpreter u get your message across. I told them pack the front, I'm nw5a and I'm 6'2", no one sees my crown ! I can go back for 2nd op.

Pain is a sting, no biggie. It's the sleeping on your back, for me my donor felt  like sunburn. Sleep a disaster.

I left day after, Istanbul was wet and cold and who wants stared gazes at your beaming red skin head!

Time will tell if its a success but so far so good, scabs all gone on day 9.

@luckyg Thanks for the write up, really helps. I’m also worried the post-procedure recovery might get a bit difficult. People have described the donor area feeling a sensation of being too close to fire without being able to get away. Did you find anything that helped soothe that pain? How long did it last? And, sorry last question, does your donor feel fine/back to usual now? Thanks again, I’m going in a week and I’ve been ridiculously curious. 

[luckyg]

7 minutes ago, htus said:

@luckyg Thanks for the write up, really helps. I’m also worried the post-procedure recovery might get a bit difficult. People have described the donor area feeling a sensation of being too close to fire without being able to get away. Did you find anything that helped soothe that pain? How long did it last? And, sorry last question, does your donor feel fine/back to usual now? Thanks again, I’m going in a week and I’ve been ridiculously curious. 

I found aloe Vera gel from the fridge soothes it. Think about it, it's like the back of your head was scraped along gravel. 4k cuts in my case ! So I say it's not bad considering. It's easing now on day 10, once I can sleep on side I'm grand. But it is still tender and will be for awhile more. I'm older so maybe longer for my healing.

Last thing, regarding original poster, it's his thread, do update your situation. I'm not making any judgement here on how it went down but I hope u are getting on well your hair growth and this clinic is supporting you through it. Regards.

[baldingbosnian]

4 month update:

 

[Myles23]

Good early growth @baldingbosnian. Starting to take shape 

[asterix0]

I think it's progressing well, now you should see good improvements in the next few months. Slow and steady wins the race.