Regular Member Recession1 Posted July 12, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 12, 2023 I was thinking about this today… why don’t NW 6 guys get 3,000 grafts dense packed to the frontal third and then scatter another 3,000 grafts around the crown and midscalp and then buzz it down to 1 or 2 guard. Wouldnt this create a nice buzzed look that frames their face and gives an illusion of a full head of hair as opposed to them growing it out and having it look thin since you can’t get the full coverage. I know smp is an option but that doesn’t look as good at the hairline in my opinion than actual buzzed hair. Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 12, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 12, 2023 I had this same thought recently. Basically, anyone is a candidate for a HT as long as they're willing to live with a high and tight or high fade for the rest of their life. You'd basically have to get competent at giving yourself this haircut as you'd need to do it often to prevent it from looking unnatural. And you'd need to be ok with showing the extraction scars. There is also some risk of this hair style not looking good on an older guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted July 12, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Recession1 said: I was thinking about this today… why don’t NW 6 guys get 3,000 grafts dense packed to the frontal third and then scatter another 3,000 grafts around the crown and midscalp and then buzz it down to 1 or 2 guard. Wouldnt this create a nice buzzed look that frames their face and gives an illusion of a full head of hair as opposed to them growing it out and having it look thin since you can’t get the full coverage. I know smp is an option but that doesn’t look as good at the hairline in my opinion than actual buzzed hair. Thoughts? I like buzzed look more thn the poor density long hair look and i planned for the same if i don't achieve enough density ...i believe for high NW patient this is the wise thing to do if they don't mind buzzed look....should harvest whatever grafts available and create a good hairline and than spread it across whole scalp and also do smp with that to create an illusion of density ... Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Recession1 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 12, 2023 Exactly… I had a buddy that maybe had 50 hairs left in his frontal 3rd and he got 3,000 grafts to the frontal 3rd and then buzzed it down to 1 or 2 and it looked perfect and frames his face. I don’t understand why more guys wouldn’t do this. As far as framing the face and looking like you buzz your hair by choice I would think this is almost a cure as long as you like the buzzed look… better than being slick bald or having very sparse longer hair throughout a nw 6 area. I would personally sense pack as many up front and then go lighter towards the back and mix the back with smp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahal Hair Transplant Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 @Recession1, In my opinion, if someone’s ultimate goal is to shave their head rather than grow their hair weather natural transplant, it may be a better idea to consider SMP a.k.a. scalp micropigmentation. By creating tiny hair like dots or tattoo using micropigmentation, the practitioner can create the appearance of short, cropped hair a.k.a. a buzz cut. Moreover, you don’t have to worry about reducing density as you trail/taper back into the mid scalp and crown region since it is a tattooing procedure rather than using actual hair. In other words, under close instruction, the pause looking cut will appear uniform in nature rather than appearing like there is thinning in the back parts of the scalp. Of course, if you still want the option of growing actual hair, then you could go to the hair transplant roure or even a hybrid / combination of both hair transplantation and SMP to create the look you desire. I hope this helps. Rahal Hair Transplant Rahal Hair Transplant Institute - Answers to questions, posts or any comments from this account should not be taken or construed as medical advice. All comments are the personal opinions of the poster. Dr. Rahal is a member of the Coalition of Independent of Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 12, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rahal Hair Transplant said: @Recession1, In my opinion, if someone’s ultimate goal is to shave their head rather than grow their hair weather natural transplant, it may be a better idea to consider SMP a.k.a. scalp micropigmentation. By creating tiny hair like dots or tattoo using micropigmentation, the practitioner can create the appearance of short, cropped hair a.k.a. a buzz cut. Moreover, you don’t have to worry about reducing density as you trail/taper back into the mid scalp and crown region since it is a tattooing procedure rather than using actual hair. In other words, under close instruction, the pause looking cut will appear uniform in nature rather than appearing like there is thinning in the back parts of the scalp. Of course, if you still want the option of growing actual hair, then you could go to the hair transplant roure or even a hybrid / combination of both hair transplantation and SMP to create the look you desire. I hope this helps. Rahal Hair Transplant You may not fully understand, the idea would be to achieve a look something similar to this. Not that a HT would get you to this guys density, but it would allow you to not have to worry about the lower crown or the lateral humps being very dense. Edited July 12, 2023 by GoliGoliGoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Recession1 Posted July 12, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 12, 2023 Thanks for the reply. I think Smp looks a little off at the hairline so actually having hair in the hairline makes a big difference. I would think a hair transplant couples with smp towards the back would look the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted July 12, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Heres a few more pics that are probably more realistic in terms of what could be re-created with a HT. Maybe it would look weird though if there was a gap of smooth skin with no hair in the lateral humps and lower crown and then below that in the donor area you can see the contrast due to the "shadow" effect created by the hair follicles that remain there, even if you shaved it down that same day. I guess that is where SMP would come in, but I kind of agree it usually doesn't look like a great match compared next to actual shaved down hair follicles. Maybe I'm wrong I never explored SMP much. Edited July 12, 2023 by GoliGoliGoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bucky O Hair Posted July 13, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Recession1 said: I was thinking about this today… why don’t NW 6 guys get 3,000 grafts dense packed to the frontal third and then scatter another 3,000 grafts around the crown and midscalp and then buzz it down to 1 or 2 guard. Wouldnt this create a nice buzzed look that frames their face and gives an illusion of a full head of hair as opposed to them growing it out and having it look thin since you can’t get the full coverage. I know smp is an option but that doesn’t look as good at the hairline in my opinion than actual buzzed hair. Thoughts? This is actually my plan. I am a NW5, who is visibly headed to NW6 or NW7. I got 3200 grafts on the front half of my head (to correct the receded hairline and frame my face nicely), and plan to get another transplant on the crown (as I have a pretty large bald area there). The photos below are my pre-op and my post-op (at three weeks). I plan to wear my hair both longer and shorter...but I expect my hair to continue to thin out over time, so that's when I'll opt for the full-time buzzed look. I agree that standalone SMP doesn't look that great (especially at the hairline), but I think SMP is an intriguing option to use WITH a hair transplant. The only drawback with this strategy is any FUE scarring will be more visible. Personally, I have some noticeable recipient scarring on my temple area (whenever I am under bright light), but it's easily covered up when hair is there. I just won't be able to wet-shave my scalp. Also, some people get noticeable donor scarring too, but SMP is a good option to mask that as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member AB2000 Posted July 13, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Recession1 said: I was thinking about this today… why don’t NW 6 guys get 3,000 grafts dense packed to the frontal third and then scatter another 3,000 grafts around the crown and midscalp and then buzz it down to 1 or 2 guard. Wouldnt this create a nice buzzed look that frames their face and gives an illusion of a full head of hair as opposed to them growing it out and having it look thin since you can’t get the full coverage. I know smp is an option but that doesn’t look as good at the hairline in my opinion than actual buzzed hair. Thoughts? The advice I received when undergoing my restoration from NW6 was to shave the back and sides and let the top grow out, the area with the transplanted hair. These are from about 10m out from my last surgery. As you can see, this style looks better than from the same time period, but without a haircut, where the longer hair revealed the lack of density: Edited July 13, 2023 by AB2000 1 My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Recession1 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 13, 2023 Both look good. I agree shorter on sides looks thicker on top. AB 2000 do you have any before pictures. Looks like you got good coverage for NW 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member AB2000 Posted July 13, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Recession1 said: Both look good. I agree shorter on sides looks thicker on top. AB 2000 do you have any before pictures. Looks like you got good coverage for NW 6 I would consider the last three as the Before, but if you mean what I looked like before any surgery, I had a couple on my progress thread, plus how it changed through the years - My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Montreal Posted July 14, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2023 I saw somebody who had only done the front part and shaved he's head I could see a little difference with the transplanted hair on the hairline has they looked a little darker but he's face is framed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ener Posted July 20, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 Perfect! That was my plan too but I don’t find anyone who do this! Now I see the plan is good 😁 i don’t understand why people want fill up the crown because the front/mid is so much more important in my opinion. You look 10 years younger with a hairline but Is only my opinion 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Sunset Dune Posted July 20, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, ener said: Perfect! That was my plan too but I don’t find anyone who do this! Now I see the plan is good 😁 i don’t understand why people want fill up the crown because the front/mid is so much more important in my opinion. You look 10 years younger with a hairline but Is only my opinion 😅 Aynen öyle kardeşim. That’s why it’s extremely important to address the front first without adding extra grafts to the crown, focusing on the front adds more density and wastes less grafts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ener Posted July 20, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Sunset Dune said: Aynen öyle kardeşim. That’s why it’s extremely important to address the front first without adding extra grafts to the crown, focusing on the front adds more density and wastes less grafts. Yeah right! I agree with you but each person must decide for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member lunch_owl Posted July 21, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 21, 2023 This is my plan as well. I look really good with a buzzed head and beard. Considering i am a NW 6/7 i dont have high expectations. The important thing in this case is imo get a good framing of the face. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Bej520 Posted August 27, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 27, 2023 I’m considering this too, I haven’t seen any cases posted here with any results, I’d love to see some. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted August 28, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 9:02 PM, ener said: i don’t understand why people want fill up the crown because the front/mid is so much more important in my opinion. You look 10 years younger with a hairline but Is only my opinion 😅 It depends on how large the bald crown is. If you have a huge bald crown, filling in only the front is not going to look so great. Take a look at the picture I'm posting below. If this guy transplanted his frontal 3rd he would still look exactly the same from behind. He would still be a bald guy. Buzzing wouldn't help. 2 Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Cam71101 Posted August 28, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 This guy's hair is a pretty good example of what it might look like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Od-VrBKo1k&t=8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Recession1 Posted August 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 I don’t think that is an example of how it would look. That guy hasn’t had a transplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mr_peanutbutter Posted August 28, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 volkan özdemir would be a prominent example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 28, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2023 The horseshoe shadow kills this look. Even if you look okay in the front, once you’re turn around it looks horrible. This was after my last HT. My frontal band is dense-packed as you can see. But once I turn around that horse shoe is visible. Mind you this is with grafts placed in the crown. 3 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted August 28, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Recession1 said: I don’t think that is an example of how it would look. That guy hasn’t had a transplant. Juding by the big strip scar on the back of his head I'd say he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Recession1 Posted August 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 Melvin, I’m actually impressed of how natural and dense your frontal third looks buzzed down… if you had a buzzed head I wouldn’t think you had a hair transplant I would just think you had some diffuse thinning. Let me ask you this… let’s say you were going to buzz your head the rest of your life… would you rather have the current hairline and situation you have now or do you think it would look better clean buzzed with no transplanted hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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