Regular Member waterworld Posted February 25, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) Original thread: August 2022, 1306 grafts, Wimpole Clinic, London. Although the original low graft count could account for the lack of density, I'm as to a loss what explains the consistent pattern of no-growth behind the hair line. It's as if the vast majority of grafts died other than the single grafts played at the front. The black and white image is from September, and shows this perfectly: the yellow arrows point to the growing hair while the white areas had zero growth. Since then, almost all of the hair growth has stemmed from that yellow region. I was not suffering hair loss. I merely wanted to 'lower' my hairline. What can cause this odd pattern to emerge? Is this merely down to low amount of grafts? Next steps: arranged a consultation with Dr. Bissanga for March for a potential repair. I Edited February 25, 2023 by waterworld 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Big Rome Posted February 25, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, waterworld said: Original thread: August 2022, 1306 grafts, Wimpole Clinic, London. Although the original low graft count could account for the lack of density, I'm as to a loss what explains the consistent pattern of no-growth behind the hair line. It's as if the vast majority of grafts died other than the single grafts played at the front. The black and white image is from September, and shows this perfectly: the yellow arrows point to the growing hair while the white areas had zero growth. Since then, almost all of the hair growth has stemmed from that yellow region. I was not suffering hair loss. I merely wanted to 'lower' my hairline. What can cause this odd pattern to emerge? Is this merely down to low amount of grafts? Next steps: arranged a consultation with Dr. Bissanga for March for a potential repair. I do you have any images from surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member waterworld Posted February 25, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 25, 2023 Just now, Big Rome said: do you have any images from surgery? Please click on the thread original thread link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Big Rome Posted February 25, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, waterworld said: Please click on the thread original thread link. ahh yeah sorry bro, am not sure what’s going on here but it’s poor growth 😞 some of the more experienced guys on here may be able to advise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Rafael Manelli Posted February 26, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted February 26, 2023 I can’t tell you why this happened, but I can say it’s not the first time I’ve seen it. Bizarre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted February 26, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted February 26, 2023 African hair is more difficult a higher graft yield I've heard, due to the nature of it's texture and shape. Can't say I've seen a good result for African heritage based patients unless from Mwamba or Bisanga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted February 26, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted February 26, 2023 I saw your original post....imo i dnt think so tht 1300 grafts are sufficient to match the density of existing grafts ...whn thr is no hairloss and if a patient want to take his hairline down thn generally in most of the cases more thn 1700 grafts are required to match the density of existing hairs... Still you can wait as i have seen many slow growers...bt u said you cannot evn feel any baby grafts in tht area thn i guess its nt worth waiting... Good tht you have chosen bisanga this time...you cn consult him and dr mawamba and thn take your decision .... Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 3, 2023 Administrators Share Posted March 3, 2023 It’s too early to call it a failure, it does raise concerns. But give it more time before casting final judgement. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member waterworld Posted March 4, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) @Melvin- Moderator @Archan @Rafael Manelli @Big RomeIt's been a week, and I don't know how this has happened Edited March 4, 2023 by waterworld 4 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Rafael Manelli Posted March 4, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 4, 2023 Wow it suddenly grew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted March 4, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, waterworld said: @Melvin- Moderator @Archan @Rafael Manelli @Big RomeIt's been a week, and I don't know how this has happened It started growing ....congratulations ...you will see more growth in upcoming months..and i wish you are on medication ...and if not thn plz be..tht would help you immensely ... Edited March 4, 2023 by Archan Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted March 5, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Archan said: It started growing ....congratulations ...you will see more growth in upcoming months..and i wish you are on medication ...and if not thn plz be..tht would help you immensely ... The hair used from the donor is DHT resistant, so medication won't make a difference. Medication will help stop further loss behind the transplant area though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor A_4_Archan Posted March 5, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted March 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Spring15 said: The hair used from the donor is DHT resistant, so medication won't make a difference. Medication will help stop further loss behind the transplant area though Finasteride works on dht levels bt minoxidil will help to make implanted hair as well as existing hair fuller and thicker and thts hw he will get more coverage ...thts my understanding bt still some expert advice would be better .. Check Out My Hair Transplant Journey --> My Thread 3611 FUE Grafts With Dr Kongkiat Laorwong | Norwood 5 | 2nd May 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StillAlive Posted March 6, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 6, 2023 That is a pretty amazing turnaround dude. As a late grower myself, your post and story, gives me hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member waterworld Posted March 6, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 6, 2023 It's itching as hell right now. First time I've felt that since Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StillAlive Posted March 9, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 9, 2023 @waterworldAre you using minox or fin by the way? Anecdotally I've heard many users tell me that if you are not on any meds (I am not, I just take saw palmetto and multivits) you really see your growth between months 7-9 vs. the people on minox who usually get there by month 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Vann Posted March 9, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 1:40 PM, waterworld said: @Melvin- Moderator @Archan @Rafael Manelli @Big RomeIt's been a week, and I don't know how this has happened Sometimes a week is really what you need for your follicles to troll. But from the previous photo to this, I think your hair was all in a similar shed cycle. If you don’t take medication it does get shocked so the surrounding area probably started to grow back at the same time. It happens, but it’s bizarre for many hairs to be in the same phase. But it does happen. Follow my first hair transplant journey 3,252 Grafts a minimum of 6,712 hairs June 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member waterworld Posted March 9, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 9, 2023 7 hours ago, StillAlive said: @waterworldAre you using minox or fin by the way? Anecdotally I've heard many users tell me that if you are not on any meds (I am not, I just take saw palmetto and multivits) you really see your growth between months 7-9 vs. the people on minox who usually get there by month 6. Only started min a few weeks ago, so perhaps this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 9, 2023 Administrators Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 10:40 AM, waterworld said: @Melvin- Moderator @Archan @Rafael Manelli @Big RomeIt's been a week, and I don't know how this has happened It’s called “you’re not done growing” this is a great example of why the “you’re done growing at 6 months” posts are nonsense. 3 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member airporteffect Posted March 9, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Melvin- Moderator said: It’s called “you’re not done growing” this is a great example of why the “you’re done growing at 6 months” posts are nonsense. Thanks for always talking us off of the ledge, Melvin! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member waterworld Posted March 15, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 This is now, with the help of some hair fibres to give a little density. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Nelly Posted March 16, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 11:44 AM, waterworld said: This is now, with the help of some hair fibres to give a little density. This looks great with the fibres. Sadly wimpole clinic is a hit and Miss clinic and a bit of a mill. When I had my consult with them they were very professional, but were open about the parts the surgeon does and the techs do. This allows the surgeon to do more cases. But it’s amazing to see how much growth happened in the space of a week. Shocked actually. It’s starting to look decent. Be patient you could have a lot more to come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted March 16, 2023 Administrators Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/15/2023 at 4:44 AM, waterworld said: This is now, with the help of some hair fibres to give a little density. Looks great with fibers. I don’t think this would’ve been possible 3 weeks ago. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted March 17, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 17, 2023 You're looking very handsome, hair fibers are a game changer. I love them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mister_25 Posted May 12, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted May 12, 2023 Any update for us? 1 12+ Months Finasteride + Minoxidil 3872 FUE w/ Dr Hasson | November 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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