Weak Donor Hair?

[Henry]

Would you guys say these are weak donor hairs? I think i have retrograde alopecia and couple that with a thinning norwood 5/6 pattern.

[Henry]

By the way, these pictures are 28 days after shaving my head to number 1.

[general-etwan]

Yes, I'd say so. The flash/lighting is a little bright in the pictures and may add to transparency, but it does seem you have a thinning area all over. 

[Henry]

23 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

Yes, I'd say so. The flash/lighting is a little bright in the pictures and may add to transparency, but it does seem you have a thinning area all over. 

Would a hair transplant be bad idea for me? I want full coverage on my frontal area and lower the hairline a little bit. 

[general-etwan]

1 minute ago, Henry said:

Would a hair transplant be bad idea for me? I want full coverage on my frontal area and lower the hairline a little bit. 

Based on these pictures, yes. I wouldn't advise it as you seem to have almost as much thinning on the back as on the top making a transplant illogical. How old are you, has your hair loss always looked like this, and what if any strategy have you taken to combat it so far?

[Henry]

10 minutes ago, general-etwan said:

Based on these pictures, yes. I wouldn't advise it as you seem to have almost as much thinning on the back as on the top making a transplant illogical. How old are you, has your hair loss always looked like this, and what if any strategy have you taken to combat it so far?

There is definitely less hair on my top though. And even lesser on my front. Just restarted fin daily last july after stopping for 6 months. Same with min. This is the first time ive really observed my hair from the back in this length, my hairloss started early with receding sides and top not growing as long.  I'm 30. 31 this march.  

[Melvin- Admin]

Flash photography is the worst. You need to take better pictures in natural lighting. It’s normal to see scalp with short hair and flash. 

[Doron Harati]

These are overexposed by lightning photos, can't get clear reference.

[Henry]

9 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Flash photography is the worst. You need to take better pictures in natural lighting. It’s normal to see scalp with short hair and flash. 

 

8 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

These are overexposed by lightning photos, can't get clear reference.

I figured the more light that hits my scalp the more clearly you guys could evaluate. 

[Henry]

9 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

These are overexposed by lightning photos, can't get clear reference.

 

9 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said:

Flash photography is the worst. You need to take better pictures in natural lighting. It’s normal to see scalp with short hair and flash. 

At certain angles and light situations it looks thin. Sometimes it looks thick i don't know. 

[general-etwan]

Need more pics without flash of all over the head including top. Natural lighting is what decisions should be made on. 

[Melvin- Admin]

4 hours ago, Henry said:

 

At certain angles and light situations it looks thin. Sometimes it looks thick i don't know. 

Looks normal. I don’t see any thinning.

[MisterBreakfast]

Looks fine for your hair type / skin. (don't compare yourself to brunettes any other hair color)

 

I hope you've considered meds to deal with that crown thinning.

Edited October 30, 2022 by MisterBreakfast

[Doron Harati]

Looks normal, I don't think you even need to consider HT.

[Henry]

3 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

Looks normal, I don't think you even need to consider HT.

I definitely don't need it as much as some people but i do think I'm on my way to a Norwood 5 or 6. I'm 30 and taking meds. The thickness/number of hairs on my sides and back are not comparable to the top and front which also doesn't grow as long. 

[Doron Harati]

You have years to wait to even consider HT, can't see yet reference for a final hairloss pattern, barely can see a "problem", a procedure now will only cause you damages and grief.

[Henry]

2 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

You have years to wait to even consider HT, can't see yet reference for a final hairloss pattern, barely can see a "problem", a procedure now will only cause you damages and grief.

Can't i do it just to strengthen and lower my hairline a little bit? Since that's what I'm most bothered by. Maybe 2.5k to 3k grafts to really strengthen it. 

[gillenator]

Clearly you need a microscopic examination of your scalp…this will confirm the status of your hair.

[Doron Harati]

20 hours ago, Henry said:

Can't i do it just to strengthen and lower my hairline a little bit? Since that's what I'm most bothered by. Maybe 2.5k to 3k grafts to really strengthen it. 

It's too early since you have a lot of natural hair which will make the HT result not homogenous, 2-3k grafts will be a huge waste, if you'll lower your hairline it will be very unnatural under your forehead muscle.

[Henry]

12 minutes ago, Doron Harati said:

It's too early since you have a lot of natural hair which will make the HT result not homogenous, 2-3k grafts will be a huge waste, if you'll lower your hairline it will be very unnatural under your forehead muscle.

Im talking about lowering the sides mainly. What do you think, heres a couple of clearer pictures

[Gatsby]

If you try and replicate mother nature surgically you run the very real risk with your fine hair type of having an obvious looking hair transplant hair line. On top of that if you start to recede you will be left with this transplanted area being separate from the remaining native hair. In years to come you will be left chasing that hairline with a donor that you don't know what will be in the future. I know it's stressful but you have to look at at every potential angle once you are cut. In hind sight sometimes doing nothing turns out to be the best option and one most regretted.

[Henry]

55 minutes ago, Gatsby said:

If you try and replicate mother nature surgically you run the very real risk with your fine hair type of having an obvious looking hair transplant hair line. On top of that if you start to recede you will be left with this transplanted area being separate from the remaining native hair. In years to come you will be left chasing that hairline with a donor that you don't know what will be in the future. I know it's stressful but you have to look at at every potential angle once you are cut. In hind sight sometimes doing nothing turns out to be the best option and one most regretted.

Im aware sir, im not lowering my entire hairline. Just the sides Are you guys not seeing the problem? here I'll send pictures of it longer.

[Henry]

Sorry if i come off as impatient or stubborn. Im just tired of the current state of my hair. If i waited for years then it'll mean ill be stuck with a hairline i dont like every single time i look in the mirror for who knows how long.

[MisterBreakfast]

I'm gonna caution you, cause you look like a younger guy.  Your hairline is fine.  You are getting older, and things are going to look different. You can fight it, but hairloss keeps rolling your whole life.  80% of the people on this forum would kill to look as you do now.  

What you probably need is a stylish haircut that makes you feel better about what you have going on now.  If you transplant now, they are going to have to match your native density.  This is going to waste a metric ton of grafts, and give you minimal results at best. 

At worst, you are going to get butchered.  In the middle, you are going to have a very unnatural look because you hairline is strangely low and not as dense in certain areas.  At best, you get slightly better results that not many people are going to notice.  In 5 years your going to actually need a transplant, and you wasted 60% of your grafts foolishly.

It may sound harsh, but you probably should know what you want to get yourself into. Talk to a doctor about meds, wait a few years, and revisit it when and if things are stable later on.

Edited November 2, 2022 by MisterBreakfast

[gillenator]

On 11/1/2022 at 7:29 PM, Gatsby said:

If you try and replicate mother nature surgically you run the very real risk with your fine hair type of having an obvious looking hair transplant hair line. On top of that if you start to recede you will be left with this transplanted area being separate from the remaining native hair. In years to come you will be left chasing that hairline with a donor that you don't know what will be in the future. I know it's stressful but you have to look at at every potential angle once you are cut. In hind sight sometimes doing nothing turns out to be the best option and one most regretted.

Every young man in his early 20’s, especially with that same diffused thinning pattern should read these words of wisdom.