ADX1369 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Hello and good afternoon, This is my first post on this forum. I have been a long time reader, but registered in order to ask a question. After many years of contemplating having a procedure done, I am finally taking the steps to speak with various clinics. I know the comparison might seem odd between these two doctors, but I wanted to raise a question about some of the information I got. I had virtual consults with both. Dr Nadimi recommended 2500 grafts focusing on the frontal and midscalp area via FUE. Dr Bicer recommended approximately 4000 grafts to the same area. I gather they both take different approaches to transplantation, with Dr Nadimi being more conservative. As someone presented with two very different graft amounts by these doctors, what are the questions I should be asking myself and the doctors. Is there a risk to going big with 4000 graft? Is Dr Nadimi able to do more with less. Would 4000 create an artificial look etc. Thanks in advance for any guidance you all can offer me! Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 23, 2022 Administrators Share Posted August 23, 2022 Two great surgeons with perhaps differing philosophies. Can you share some pictures? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADX1369 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said: Two great surgeons with perhaps differing philosophies. Can you share some pictures? Hi yes, I would love to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 4000 seems MUCH closer to the number you need if you want coverage in all your "problem spots". It seems the difference is that Nadimi would not work on your crown at all, whereas Bicer would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADX1369 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Just now, GoliGoliGoli said: 4000 seems MUCH closer to the number you need if you want coverage in all your "problem spots". It seems the difference is that Nadimi would not work on your crown at all, whereas Bicer would. I should clarify. BOTH were willing to do crown work as a second session at a later date. The 2500 quoted from Nadimi and the 4000 quoted from Bicer was for frontal area and midscalp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 4000 still seems like closer to the real number even if just talking about frontal/mid-scalp. I know my Dr says he often over estimates the number of grafts needed during video consults. "Under promise-over deliver" type of thing because if the the true number needed is less everyone's happy. More expensive Dr's would be less likely to do this because they don't want to scare customers off by saying they need a huge number of grafts that is going to cost a huge amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member civic Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 I think 2500 for front-mid scalp is proper assesment in your situation, you have a favorable low contrast scalp to hair. Assumung 95% survival rate of grafts, it will look very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADX1369 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 I appreciate the feedback. This was such a wide difference that I wanted some input. My plan is to visit Konoir/Nadimi and hopefully speak to both of them. Obviously with Bicer being in Turkey, in person is a bit more challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 Nadimi is known for being conservative to a fault. I think no matter who you go to, you are looking at 2+ procedures. But im worried if you go to Nadimi your 1st ht will be underdeveloped and you will be in permanent ugly duckling mode till youre next surgery. If you were a nw3 or less i would have a more optimistic opinion for nadimi for your specific case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member GoliGoliGoli Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 I don't know how Bicer/Nadimi pricing works but a lot of Dr's cost per graft goes down as your graft count goes up. So I agree with HappyMan you might as well get the max number of grafts per session so you are maximizing your value and actually getting a result you are happy with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairRun Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 I think Nadimi is one of the best at giving the appearance of density with fewer grafts. She trained under Konior for years whose is known for one of the best at that. If you look at her reviews, you'll see that even though she tends to use fewer grafts, the sessions are still longer, probably due to her attention to detail. She also uses the same team of technicians as Konior. I'm not familiar with Bicer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Z-- Posted August 23, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 23, 2022 Nadimi, no question. Bicer is a very solid and budget friendly choice. Nadimi on the other hand makes a few grafts look like many and ensures better graft usage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADX1369 Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 The feedback I am getting is ultimately the questions I have. I guess I need to go meet with Nadimi since she is local (USA) and I have that ability, and see what expectations I should have with a procedure from her. Her skill is unquestionable in my opinion. I think it comes down to what do I want and what can she realistically give me. I REALLY want to restore my frontal line and have some density there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Chetman2112 Posted August 24, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Based on my research I believe like Konior Nadimi is able to do more with less, and I think she is one of the very best, I’m scheduled with her in November. If you have the ability go see her in person and that should solidify graft count. Edited August 24, 2022 by Chetman2112 Poor spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted September 9, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted September 9, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 7:56 AM, Z-- said: Nadimi, no question. Bicer is a very solid and budget friendly choice. Nadimi on the other hand makes a few grafts look like many and ensures better graft usage. This. Nadimi is a top surgeon. Just look at the patient results on this forum, everyone is happy with their results. She'll make the 2500 give the illusion you had more + she'll take good care of your donor, which is just as important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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