Seniormido Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Hi all, I had a FUE 2 years ago in Turkey in one of the clinics recommended here for Norwood 5-6. About 4000 grafts were taken. I have a fine hair and my donor area is not the best. In the beginning I was happy with the results but my natural hair is continuing to thin (going to norwood 7) The density is also low with many spaces and one side of the hairline doesn’t look very natural. I tried to shave my head but it didn’t look good because of the donor area scars and also the density and the directions of the transplanted hair which looks different from my original hair. This is causing me anxiety and I just want a natural look. I even sometimes think to shave the transplanted hair and keep the sides and back slightly long to hide the scars. I contacted my clinic and they offered a second procedure for free or shall I find a better clinic ? Any suggestions ? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted September 22, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2020 Hi @Seniormido, you could post some photos of your current situation, but if you have any, also of the pre and post surgery? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted September 22, 2020 Administrators Share Posted September 22, 2020 Can you share some pictures? Who was the clinic? We only recommend one surgeon in Turkey now. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 I had it with Dr Yaman This first is pre these results with long hair short haircut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) This is how it looks with a very short hair but scars are visible Donor area Edited September 23, 2020 by Seniormido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) Shall I try one more time with the same or different clinic ? Donor limitation ? I don’t prefer to use beard. Or just shave it completely with SMP to the scars only if SMP is going to work with zero (razor) shave ? Will I have any scars on the front of head if I completely shave it ? Edited September 23, 2020 by Seniormido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted September 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) @SeniormidoI hate to say this my friend but your hairline was botched by Yaman. You have grafts with more than 1 hair in your hairline and the design is unnatural. Your donor area looks pretty much depleted so you should really avoid going back to the Doctor responsable for your depleted donor and botched HT. The thinning of your hair could indicate DUPA. Dr. Lorenzo treats patients with DUPA but they are required to be on Finasteride 6 months before the surgery. I don’t think you can have a hair transplant without using beard grafts because you have a limited donor area. You should contact Dr. Sethi at Eugenix and Dr. Jose Lorenzo. Edited September 23, 2020 by Portugal25 1 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Portugal25 said: @SeniormidoI hate to say this my friend but your hairline was botched by Yaman. You have grafts with more than 1 hair in your hairline and the design is unnatural. Your donor area looks pretty much depleted so you should really avoid going back to the Doctor responsable for your depleted donor and botched HT. The thinning of your hair could indicate DUPA. Dr. Lorenzo treats patients with DUPA but they are required to be on Finasteride 6 months before the surgery. I don’t think you can have a hair transplant without using beard grafts because you have a limited donor area. You should contact Dr. Sethi at Eugenix and Dr. Jose Lorenzo. To be honest I also had more receding from temples which increased the hairline problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted September 23, 2020 Administrators Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Seniormido said: I had it with Dr Yaman This first is pre these results with long hair short haircut This is concerning, please pm me your full name and date of surgery, so I can contact Dr. Yaman. I disagree that your donor looks depleted. The quality of the photos are poor, so maybe I’m not seeing it. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted September 23, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 23, 2020 If you have a good beard then you should really look into using beard grafts before trying to get more from the scalp donor area. Most people with decant beard hair can get several thousand grafts from the beard. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 The problem as I continue to recede to norwood 7. I will have an empty area between the top and the side ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted September 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2020 That’s a tough call to make. That was a large area to cover with 4000 grafts. Was the plan more than 1 Ht? Your donor area looks ok to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 Some clinics said my donor can give 2000 more grafts at maximum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted September 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2020 2000 grafts from donor and using Beard grafts could be a way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, BeHappy said: If you have a good beard then you should really look into using beard grafts before trying to get more from the scalp donor area. Most people with decant beard hair can get several thousand grafts from the beard. can I still grow my beard after that and will it leave any noticeable scaring as in the head ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, JohnAC71 said: 2000 grafts from donor and using Beard grafts could be a way forward. What 2000 grafts can do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted September 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2020 2000 grafts and say 1500 beard grafts could make a lot of difference. Plenty of cases on the forum where beard grafts were used and no visible scarring. Eugenix excel in these type of cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 I think at the end a full head shave with smp to the scars will be the solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Portugal25 Posted September 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Seniormido said: Some clinics said my donor can give 2000 more grafts at maximum @Seniormido I had a totally bald crown and midscalp but with 2000 scalp grafts + 1888 beard grafts I managed to rebuild my crown and miscalp. You should consider this option and don’t worry about your beard because I can still grown my beard after having 1888 grafts removed from under the line under the chin (not above the chin). The best Doctors for beard grafts are Dr. Sethi, Dr. Pekiner and HLC. Edited September 23, 2020 by Portugal25 Dr. Rahal 28/3/2008 (3425 Grafts / 7035 Hairs) https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/17877-dr-rahal-3425-grafts-28032008-18-months-update/ Dr. Kaan Pekiner 26-28/12/2019 -3895 grafts (2007 FUE + 1888 BHT https://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/topic/55853-dr-kaan-pekiner-fuebht-3895-2007-fue-1888-bht-28122019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted September 23, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2020 I agree with @Portugal25 if you can get similar numbers from your scalp and Beard grafts you would get very decent coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted September 24, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) I've had over 4600 grafts taken from my beard and chest. The scars are minimal and nobody can tell. For the beard they take grafts from the area under the chin, so it's not easily noticed anyway because the area is downward facing, so nobody really sees it. It also won't leave any more scars on your head because you won't be taking any grafts from there, so that makes it worth a try or at least worth considering and looking into. Edited September 24, 2020 by BeHappy Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) What about the hairline and temples ? Edited October 12, 2020 by Seniormido Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 The question is can you have a HT without Finasteride? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seniormido Posted November 14, 2020 Author Share Posted November 14, 2020 Recent photo of donor area with short hair. I don’t think it has any more supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted November 14, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted November 14, 2020 Looking at that pic I would say no it doesn’t look like it can give much more. Maybe turn to your beard as previously mentioned/discussed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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