Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 24, 2016 Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2016 Hey guys, So the time is coming close for me to return to work, I made a HUGE mistake not shaving my head prior to surgery, now I have ridiculous bald patches that are impossible to conceal. Have any of you used Couvre or Dermmatch on really short hair like guard #1, if so which is better? My goal is not to give myself a "full" head of hair but more to blend everything together, leave some sections lighter than others so that I still look somewhat balding, otherwise it would be too obvious. Is this even possible? or do concealers work to good, I never use concealers so I'm uneducated on the topic. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlosscpa Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 I recommend Couvre as its easier to maneuver and manipulate due to the "cream/lotion" consistency. I did it on a 1 guard and it worked. Damp the sponge a little with water and then add some Couvre to it and blend it lightly around your areas and into your existing hair. Good luck! 1st Procedure, Oct. 2012 - 1,704 grafts FUT w/Dr. True 2nd Procedure, Sept. 2015 - 2500 grafts FUE w/Dr. Vories FUE Progress - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180966-my-experience-w-dr-vories-2-500-grafts.html FUE 1 year result - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/184716-1-year-results-2-500-grafts-w-dr-vories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 24, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2016 I recommend Couvre as its easier to maneuver and manipulate due to the "cream/lotion" consistency. I did it on a 1 guard and it worked. Damp the sponge a little with water and then add some Couvre to it and blend it lightly around your areas and into your existing hair. Good luck! Thanks for the reply dude, do you happen to have any pics of what your hair looked like when you had it guard 1 with couvre? Currently this is my dilemma, my friends are telling me I should go to a barber to have them clean it up and then comb it over and apply concealer. Do you think it would be easier to conceal with a buzzed head or how it is now? Natural state This is when I try to comb it over I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member n00b Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 I dont have any experience with either dermatch or couvre. Is it not possible to wear a cap to work. I wore one for a couple months after my op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 24, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2016 I dont have any experience with either dermatch or couvre.Is it not possible to wear a cap to work. I wore one for a couple months after my op. It's not possible, I work in an office I have to dress in slacks and button ups my boss is strict on the dress code. I only work in the office twice a week though so I work from home 3 times out of the week, that's at leas a silver lining. I don't know if I should buzz it or comb it over with concealer. I guess combing it over would be the least drastic change, my friends are telling me not to buzz it. Hoping some concealer gurus could chime in and let me know which would be the easiest to conceal. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlosscpa Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 Comb over with a powder concealer such as Caboki/Toppik would be the easiest in my opinion. There is a learning curve when starting to use concealer since you initially apply more than needed, so less is always better. If you can somehow pull off a comb-over, over the transplant area and then use Caboki, that may be your best bet. I attached the only pics I could find. This is my using couvre. This is longer than a 1 guard, more like a 2/3. Without concealer my hair looked very thin and sparse. 1st Procedure, Oct. 2012 - 1,704 grafts FUT w/Dr. True 2nd Procedure, Sept. 2015 - 2500 grafts FUE w/Dr. Vories FUE Progress - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180966-my-experience-w-dr-vories-2-500-grafts.html FUE 1 year result - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/184716-1-year-results-2-500-grafts-w-dr-vories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 24, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2016 Comb over with a powder concealer such as Caboki/Toppik would be the easiest in my opinion. There is a learning curve when starting to use concealer since you initially apply more than needed, so less is always better. If you can somehow pull off a comb-over, over the transplant area and then use Caboki, that may be your best bet. I attached the only pics I could find. This is my using couvre. This is longer than a 1 guard, more like a 2/3. Without concealer my hair looked very thin and sparse. Thanks for the photos, it looks good, so you think combing it over and applying caboki would be easier? I have toppik but I got it black and its waaayy to dark, I was thinking of buying this stuff called Mane, have you heard of it any good? https://www.amazon.com/Mane-America-Thickener-Spray-Combo/dp/B00HDYZHYA/ref=sr_1_4_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1477335652&sr=1-4&keywords=mane%2Bhair%2Bthickening%2Bspray%2Bdark%2Bbrown&th=1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairLostYears Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 I've used both, but only in the island area with forelock hair brushed back over it. Very effective that way, but no experience with real short hair. I agree with hairlosscpa about the consistency of Couvre being a bit easier to work with. I'm really just chiming in to mention that Couvre has a very strong scent...at least to me. It has been years since I bought any though, so maybe that's no longer the case. Also, an old soft bristle toothbrush can be a good applicator for either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlosscpa Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Spray thickeners in my opinion look very paint like and unnatural on existing hair (dull, chalky coverage). Haven't tried that specific one but I use to use "Fullmore" by Toppik which was similar. I still think a comb over and powder concealer is your best bet. You cn even use a combination of both, a little couvre on completely bald areas, do the combover and apply Caboki/Toppik. If black was "too" dark, dark brown might be similar. However, based on the pictures your posted, dark brown might be okay for you though. Edited October 24, 2016 by hairlosscpa 1st Procedure, Oct. 2012 - 1,704 grafts FUT w/Dr. True 2nd Procedure, Sept. 2015 - 2500 grafts FUE w/Dr. Vories FUE Progress - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180966-my-experience-w-dr-vories-2-500-grafts.html FUE 1 year result - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/184716-1-year-results-2-500-grafts-w-dr-vories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 24, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2016 Spray thickeners in my opinion looking very paint like and unnatural on existing hair (dull, chalky coverage). Haven't tried that specific one but I use to use "Fullmore" by Toppik which was similar. I still think a comb over and powder concealer is your best bet. You cn even use a combination of both, a little couvre on completely bald areas, do the combover and apply Caboki/Toppik. If black was "too" dark, dark brown might be similar. However, based on the pictures your posted, dark brown might be okay for you though. Thanks man you're really helping me out, I know very little when it comes to concealers, one more question, can I use wax or pomades with the caboki? If so would I use it first then put the caboki and then hair spray? Or should I leave it dry and just use hair spray? I gotta buy this stuff now any local stores sell this stuff? I think I'll try the dark brown and medium brown both. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlosscpa Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 No problem man. The steps you described would work best. But when you put the concealer on sort of re-do your hairstyle with the caboki in it to evenly distribute it and remove excess dust, then put hairspray. It'll look the most natural. I don't know of any local stores that sell this stuff but you might be able to do 1-day shipping through Amazon depending on where you are. Good luck bro. 1st Procedure, Oct. 2012 - 1,704 grafts FUT w/Dr. True 2nd Procedure, Sept. 2015 - 2500 grafts FUE w/Dr. Vories FUE Progress - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180966-my-experience-w-dr-vories-2-500-grafts.html FUE 1 year result - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/184716-1-year-results-2-500-grafts-w-dr-vories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member shanson Posted October 24, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 I have recently found some products called Mr Jamie Stevens. I had my hair cut shorter than i liked and had a family event. I bought the shampoo and conditioner. which has really made my hair feel soft, especially the transplanted hair at the front. I then bought the disguise spray to give the front an extra boots- i only use the smallest amount, maybe one spray each side of my hairline. i then use the hair paste which is really good and finish with the seal spray. All great products. To me a great find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 24, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 24, 2016 No problem man. The steps you described would work best. But when you put the concealer on sort of re-do your hairstyle with the caboki in it to evenly distribute it and remove excess dust, then put hairspray. It'll look the most natural. I don't know of any local stores that sell this stuff but you might be able to do 1-day shipping through Amazon depending on where you are. Good luck bro. Thanks again man, I'm glad I made this thread before deciding to buzz my head. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted October 25, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2016 Not sure if this will help but these are some pics when I used Dermmatch and Couvre. Overall I personally didn't think they looked very natural on little hair but a bit better when there's more hair to blend in with. 7 months post-op. 1st pic without products and other 2 with Dermmatch FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted October 25, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 months post-op. First pic without concealers. 2nd Pic with Dermmatch 3rd with Couvre FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DEB1982 Posted October 25, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 25, 2016 I would personally try using dermmatch and then fibres on top of this. This is my daily regime for my crown area. I have little hair there and it creates a brilliant illusion for me. I use the lock in spray as apposed to hair spray but they are essentially the same thing. I think if you pay around with your hair style you could cover the bits you need too. First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016 First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html Hair loss regime Propecia 1mg daily Saw Palmetto 450mg daily Biotin 1000ug daily MSM 1500mg daily Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily 1% Nizoral shampoo weekly Lasercomb x 3 weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 25, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 25, 2016 9 months post-op. First pic without concealers. 2nd Pic with Dermmatch 3rd with Couvre Thanks alot for the photos, based on the photos I think Couvre looks better, i'm buying Caboki and Couvre today, hopefully it comes by this weekend I will be testing it out and updating this thread with photos, so the concealer gurus could give me some tips hopefully. I return to work on Wednesday :eek: I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 25, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 25, 2016 Alright guys, I just picked up Toppik dark brown from the local beauty store, I just put it on with some wax and hair spray, what do you guys think is it noticeable? I also cut my hair to clean things up a bit cause it looked ridiculous before, any tips from the concealer gurus? I just ordered couvre it should come by the weekend, my only concern currently is how im going to blend it to the crown do I use Couvre or Toppik? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairlosscpa Posted October 26, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 26, 2016 Looks good man. Is there any way you can brush your hair back to cover some of the crown instead of brushing your hair to the side? That way there is some hair around the crown for the toppik to cling on to. You can also apply a light layer of couvre to the crown, brush your hair back and then add some toppik to that area for max coverage. 1st Procedure, Oct. 2012 - 1,704 grafts FUT w/Dr. True 2nd Procedure, Sept. 2015 - 2500 grafts FUE w/Dr. Vories FUE Progress - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180966-my-experience-w-dr-vories-2-500-grafts.html FUE 1 year result - http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/184716-1-year-results-2-500-grafts-w-dr-vories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 26, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2016 Looks good man. Is there any way you can brush your hair back to cover some of the crown instead of brushing your hair to the side? That way there is some hair around the crown for the toppik to cling on to. You can also apply a light layer of couvre to the crown, brush your hair back and then add some toppik to that area for max coverage. My hairs not long enough it's barely long enough to comb over I tried the slicked back look and it stops pretty much at the crown, I was hoping maybe couvre would make it blend more with the hair on the sides so it would look like I buzzed all the way up to the crown. What do you think possible? Worst comes to worst I'll just have to go like this, and in a few weeks I'll cut it shorter to make everything even. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DEB1982 Posted October 26, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 26, 2016 Have you put toppik on the crown area as I would have expected it to fill in more than this?? First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016 First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html Hair loss regime Propecia 1mg daily Saw Palmetto 450mg daily Biotin 1000ug daily MSM 1500mg daily Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily 1% Nizoral shampoo weekly Lasercomb x 3 weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 26, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2016 Have you put toppik on the crown area as I would have expected it to fill in more than this?? I didn't put toppik in the crown area because I thought toppik only works with hair not buzzed hair, I was waiting to put couvre on the crown. I want to avoid an obvious concealer cover up, I would rather it stay bald then look like im concealing it if that makes sense. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DEB1982 Posted October 26, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 26, 2016 Try and put toppik on it just to see what you think it looks like. Toppik also works with short hair by concealing the scalp. I think you could be surprised at how it looks. I've seen some guys get amazing results with toppik / nanogen who have very little hair. I tried couvre but I personally didn't like the consistency and it was visibly different to the rest of my hair. First Transplant: 5000 FUE grafts with Dr Koray Erdogan ASMED, December 2016 First Hair Transplant link: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185564-5000-grafts-fue-13th-14th-december-asmed-dr-erdogan.html Hair loss regime Propecia 1mg daily Saw Palmetto 450mg daily Biotin 1000ug daily MSM 1500mg daily Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg daily 1% Nizoral shampoo weekly Lasercomb x 3 weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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