Regular Member vik757 Posted July 31, 2016 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hi All, I had HT 8 months ago with Dr Tejinder Bhatti, there has been hair growth but lacks density. I had a word with Dr and he advised me to wait for another couple of months. Please have a look at my pictures and let me know what you think about the progress so far. Grafts : 3800 Hair : around 8000 Medication: Biotin : 5mg Finasteride :1mg My Website Link: Hair Restoration Social Network ? Community for and by Hair Loss Patients - vik757's Profile Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted July 31, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 I think this is a heck of a yield and a successful HT thus far -- that's a large area you covered with under 4000 grafts. Reminds me of the area Dutchie was trying to cover 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 Thanks Ernie for the comment. I was expecting it to be more denser tough, so not really happy as of now. Dr. say its still only 60% growth so I am still hopeful. So as per you 3800 grafts is less to cover the area and wont give me a fuller look. Because as per my discussion with Dr. before surgery this was enough to give me a fuller look. I was always after dense look for that reason we decided to go keep the hair line bit behind (mature look) than normal. Also, number of grafts was never an issue because Dr. told me I have a very dense donor area and very bushy beard, so lack of grafts was never a problem. Cheers Vik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TakingThePlunge Posted July 31, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 Looks like things are coming along nicely! There is still plenty of time for additional density. As Dr. Bhatti advised, you'll need to wait it out before making any judgements. Please keep us updated on your progress. David - Former Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant I am not a medical professional. All opinions are my own and my advice should not constitute as medical advice. View my Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 Thanks David. What do you think this is looking good for 8 months. Yes, I am patiently waiting and very hopeful. I have full confidence in Dr. Bhatti and lets hope for the best. Cheers Vik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member starscream Posted July 31, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 Wow, that's a remarkable transformation if you ask me. I think your crown has also filled in a bit (or is it the lighting that makes it seem so?) - is that from medication ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted July 31, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 Hi starscream, I have taken the photos during day time out in a shade. The back photo might have a reflection, not sure, will take a better photo next time. Having said that I have gained some hair in crown, also I am having Finastride 1mg. But that was my expectation as per my initial discussion with Dr. to cover till the back for that reason we decided to compromise on the front by giving a mature look (i.e. broad forehead). I am happy so far, but I expecting a dense look, there is big gaps between hairs, so when I keep it long it looks thin. I hope it grows more in coming months and become dense. Fingers crossed Cheers Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member n00b Posted July 31, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 It might be tough to give a dense pack all over the top given the high norwood you are. But I agree that the hairline could be a bit more dense. Do you happen to have some pre-op op pics? Are there any native hairs up there or were you fully bald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member BaldPatient2 Posted July 31, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2016 There might be some improvement after month 8 but don't expect a huge change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 1, 2016 It might be tough to give a dense pack all over the top given the high norwood you are. But I agree that the hairline could be a bit more dense. Do you happen to have some pre-op op pics? Are there any native hairs up there or were you fully bald? Hi, I was not fully bald I was having hair at crown but obviously not much, I will post photos. I was expecting dense packing like 40 grafts/sq cm not sure how many grafts per sq cm were planted. That's disappointing, i will have a word with Dr. about further increasing density. How much grafts per sq cm are needed for dense look as per you. As per my initial conversation with Dr. he told i have enough donor head hair and very bushy bread so lack of grafts shouldn't be a problem. By the way how difficult is it to plant more grafts on already transplanted area. Cheers V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member n00b Posted August 1, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 1, 2016 Hi, I was not fully bald I was having hair at crown but obviously not much, I will post photos. I was expecting dense packing like 40 grafts/sq cm not sure how many grafts per sq cm were planted. That's disappointing, i will have a word with Dr. about further increasing density. How much grafts per sq cm are needed for dense look as per you. As per my initial conversation with Dr. he told i have enough donor head hair and very bushy bread so lack of grafts shouldn't be a problem. By the way how difficult is it to plant more grafts on already transplanted area. Cheers V I dont think it is difficult to add more density with another op. People do it all the time. I think an average density of 40 grafts per sq cm should be sufficient to provide a good illusion of density. These grafts would be concentrated more near the hairline, say 50-55 grafts per cm, that the crown, say 25-30 grafts per cm. I am sure the doctor would take care of this aesthetic design so dont worry. My guess is that a typical norwood 5/6 would have 175-200 cm2 reciepient area. For average density of 40 grafts per cm, one would need 7000-8000 grafts. These are just my thoughts. Consult with Dr.Bhatti as he would be able to give you a clear personalized plan to achieve what you want. Please share your pre-op pics too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 7, 2016 Hi n00b, So, as per my current photos you think all 3800 grafts has sprouted and there wouldn't be much improvement. Because I was definitely expecting more density. especially my front line is not thick, it looks like i am missing a front line. your thoughts. Cheers V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 7, 2016 I dont think it is difficult to add more density with another op. People do it all the time. I think an average density of 40 grafts per sq cm should be sufficient to provide a good illusion of density. These grafts would be concentrated more near the hairline, say 50-55 grafts per cm, that the crown, say 25-30 grafts per cm. I am sure the doctor would take care of this aesthetic design so dont worry. My guess is that a typical norwood 5/6 would have 175-200 cm2 reciepient area. For average density of 40 grafts per cm, one would need 7000-8000 grafts. These are just my thoughts. Consult with Dr.Bhatti as he would be able to give you a clear personalized plan to achieve what you want. Please share your pre-op pics too... Hi n00b, So, as per my current photos you think all 3800 grafts has sprouted and there wouldn't be much improvement. Because I was definitely expecting more density. especially my front line is not thick, it looks like i am missing a front line. your thoughts. Cheers V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 7, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 7, 2016 Looks like things are coming along nicely! There is still plenty of time for additional density. As Dr. Bhatti advised, you'll need to wait it out before making any judgements. Please keep us updated on your progress. Hi David, So, as per my current photos you think all 3800 grafts has sprouted and there wouldn't be much improvement. Because I was definitely expecting more density. especially my front line is not thick, it looks like i am missing a front line. your thoughts. Cheers V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member n00b Posted August 8, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 8, 2016 Hi n00b, So, as per my current photos you think all 3800 grafts has sprouted and there wouldn't be much improvement. Because I was definitely expecting more density. especially my front line is not thick, it looks like i am missing a front line. your thoughts. Cheers V Thats a tough question to answer. Sharing your pre-op pics might help some members make a guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Transhair Posted August 9, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 Comparing your pre op, post op and 8 months images, there's a lot of empty spaces along the hairline where there were grafts implanted. I definitely think you should have had more growth. Do you see any new sprouts? It's definitely late in the process but it's not completely lost for the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 9, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 (edited) Comparing your pre op, post op and 8 months images, there's a lot of empty spaces along the hairline where there were grafts implanted. I definitely think you should have had more growth. Do you see any new sprouts? It's definitely late in the process but it's not completely lost for the next few months. Hi Transhair, Thanks for your feedback, difficult to tell whether I am having new sprouts, probably I need to use that personal microscope to check. However, how long you think should I wait before considering another transplant. 12 month mark is a good time. Thanks V Edited August 9, 2016 by vik757 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Transhair Posted August 9, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 12 months is good, both to ensure that every graft is grown and everything is healed well enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mosd Posted August 9, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 Comparing your pre op, post op and 8 months images, there's a lot of empty spaces along the hairline where there were grafts implanted. I definitely think you should have had more growth. Do you see any new sprouts? It's definitely late in the process but it's not completely lost for the next few months. what does the doctor say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 9, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 what does the doctor say? Hi Mosd, Dr has asked me to consult him back on 9 month mark, so waiting for another month. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mosd Posted August 9, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 Hi Mosd, Dr has asked me to consult him back on 9 month mark, so waiting for another month. Cheers ok. Hopefully everything will turn out fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted August 9, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 9, 2016 I think this is a heck of a yield and a successful HT thus far -- that's a large area you covered with under 4000 grafts. Reminds me of the area Dutchie was trying to cover HUH???? I only had 120 cm2 to cover. You think thats a lot?? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted August 10, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 10, 2016 HUH???? I only had 120 cm2 to cover. You think thats a lot?? :confused: Dutchie, just sent you a PM so we don't hijack this thread. 120cm2 can be a huge area or a small area. All depends on how many grafts are designated for that area. 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member vik757 Posted August 28, 2016 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 28, 2016 Hi All, I have hit the 9 month mark, attached my photos in the link below. (photos are taken in the garden area at around 4 pm) To be honest its still not much of the improvement. hair are looking thin with gaps. Please have a look and give me your feedback about what do you feel. Cheers V grafts: 3800 hair: 8000 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/user_album_update.php?album_id=4840 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Dutchie Posted August 28, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 28, 2016 Here's direct link for his 9-months: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/vik757/albums/4840 You still have 3 to 9 months of growing left, but I admit it doesnt look very good right now. Whats even weirder you seem to not have good growth on your frontal scalp, and thats usually where most people get their initial growth spurt (and the crown usually comes last). Its like you've gone in reverse. I'm not ready to call yours a failed HT just yet, but one thing I learned about this site there seems to be at least one failed transplant for every 3 or 4 successful ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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