Senior Member HairsGone Posted June 28, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) A few days ago I had my second hair transplant, the first was with Mr Ball which can be found here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html This time I decided to go to Dr Karadeniz in Istanbul. Like last time I'll document updates over the next 12 months to help other people with their choices and give back to this useful community like I also benefited from. Why Dr Karadeniz? I spent time looking at reviews and photos of similar cases to mine. The recommendation from the respected Joe T helped me make my decision as well as speaking to a few former patients. Another factor in choosing Dr K was his prices can be up to half of the cost of other surgeons. I was impressed with Dr K's communication, he would reply personally to all emails usually within 24 hours. I also did a video consultation with him via Skype and spoke to him on the phone. Dr K is very passionate about hair transplants and comes across as being very genuine. After we spoke he recommended FUT initially but given I was keen to get as many grafts as possible we decided to go for a combined FUT and FUE procedure over 2 days. I was very keen for this to be my last transplant so I can just forget about my hair loss and move on with my life. I do recognise though that future hair loss is unpredictable so I may be open to having a further procedure after several years, but only if I desperately needed it. The day before the procedure: I was picked up by a driver in a very nice new BMW and taken to the Silence Hotel. This is a 5 star hotel and looks nice and is clean. Breakfast was decent and it's located a few minutes walk away from the clinic. There's also a shopping complex next door with high street shops and restaurants. Day 1 - FUT I was collected from the hotel at 0745 and taken to the clinic and met Dr K and his team. His team are very nice and you can see they work very well together by the relationship they have with one another. It's a small clinic but nice and clean with all the facilities required. Dr K examined me and noted I have good laxity - the scalp exercises during the past few months must have paid off! Dr K then answered all my questions. I asked about lowering the hairline or temples which he advised against and felt we should focus on improving the overall density instead (this was similar to Mr Ball's advice one year earlier). We proceeded to the FUT and the local anaesthetic injections stung but weren't too uncomfortable. Whilst his technicians dissected the strip, Dr K made the recipient incisions for both days. Later the technicians implanted the grafts. The day finished around 6pm. Sleeping that night was uncomfortable but the neck pillow I brought helped. The graft breakdown was: FUT grafts = 3150 Total hairs = 7100 Average of 2.25 hairs per graft 330 singles 1690 doubles 1130 triples Day 2 - FUE This was a smaller session and I found it very comfortable. Dr K did all the extractions and the technician then implanted them. It took approximately 5 hours in total. The graft breakdown was: FUE grafts = 723 Total hairs = 1703 Average of 2.35 hairs per graft 123 singles 280 doubles 260 triples 60 quadruples Punch size was mainly 0.8mm motorised. At the end Dr K went through the post-op instructions and gave me a bottle of shampoo, a moisturising lotion and 1 years worth of Proscar 5mg. I returned briefly on day 3 for the hair wash performed by the technician. By day 2 the pain to the scar was very bearable and seemed a lot less than what I experienced from my first surgery. I haven't really noticed any pain to the FUE donor areas. Overall I was very pleased with my experience and decision to choose Dr K. I was happy to hear that he feels I probably could get another 2000 grafts from a further FUT given my laxity, and another 1000 grafts FUE. In total I've now had 7,267 grafts (15,163 hairs) so hopefully this will give me a good end result! Any comments or questions feel free to ask. Edited June 28, 2016 by HairsGone FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted June 28, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 Photos 24-48 hours post-op FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chris39 Posted June 28, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 Congrats on the 2nd procedure HairsGone . Should make a big difference overall when it kicks in . Were the grafts spread evenly over the area ? 7000 plus grafts overall is a a devent no. Looking forward to your updates as your hairloss and plans were similar to mine , except I concentrated on the front / mid-scalp for the 1st procedure . Happy growing ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chris39 Posted June 28, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 Scar looks great by the way - did the Dr use exactly the same incision line as your 1st procedure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted June 28, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 Were the grafts spread evenly over the area ? This time they were more or less evenly spread out. My 1st procedure focussed on the frontal half and some to the crown. This was because I wasn't keen on a 2nd procedure at that point. FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted June 28, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2016 Scar looks great by the way - did the Dr use exactly the same incision line as your 1st procedure ? I'm not sure if the incision went directly through the old scar as to get a strip one has to cut above and below but I know the old scar was removed as part of the strip. Ps thanks! FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 3, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 Day 9 update - scalp has healed nicely. The scar has been causing me pain but the painkillers do help. I'm hoping once the staples are out it will be less painful. A saline spray to recipient area has been helping the soreness and itching. FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 3, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 I assume you can't post more than 1 photo at a time on the iPhone? FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 3, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 ..... FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mosd Posted July 3, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 Any pre op pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 3, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 Click on the link in my first post and you'll see my first transplant thread, the last pics were taken a few days before this transplant FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chris39 Posted July 3, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 Day 9 update - scalp has healed nicely. The scar has been causing me pain but the painkillers do help. I'm hoping once the staples are out it will be less painful. A saline spray to recipient area has been helping the soreness and itching. Looks like it's healing nicely . Might be the lighting , but the redness looks pretty good also. I had no discomfort from the scar apart from the itching . I was a happy man the day when the staples could be removed .Where are you getting the staples removed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 3, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 Chris, I didn't get much redness in my first surgery too, I must be lucky with my skin characteristics! I'm day 10 today and having messaged Dr K he advised to remove alternate staples today and the rest on day 12. My wife watched the useful H&W video on how to remove them and did so easily with the staple remover I managed to get hold of. FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chris39 Posted July 3, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2016 I did the same - bought one online and the wife removed them all . Only one of the 60 odd staples hurt on removal . The half hour head soak in the bath definitely helped . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member DavidAnderson Posted July 4, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 4, 2016 Congratulations on your recent surgery with Dr Karadeniz the work looks very good and you are healing well. That was quite a big session you had there and should really make a nice difference. Good growth to you! Senior Patient Advisor for Dr Edward Ball of The Maitland Clinic. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of The Maitland Clinic. Formerly Garageland of Hasson & Wong with 20 years of history in Hair Restoration. Meet with myself for a free consultation and advice in London on June 21st 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 4, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 4, 2016 Congratulations on your recent surgery with Dr Karadeniz the work looks very good and you are healing well. That was quite a big session you had there and should really make a nice difference. Good growth to you! Thanks David FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 14, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2016 Day 15 pics to show how the scar looks for those interested who may want to plan their future surgeries / post-op recovery and return to work. FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rashid36 Posted July 14, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2016 please post some before op pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted July 14, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 14, 2016 please post some before op pictures Pre-op pics can be found at the end of my first HT thread as mentioned in the first post... http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mosd Posted August 22, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted August 22, 2016 looking forward to seeing ur result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted October 23, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2016 4 month update... FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mosd Posted October 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 23, 2016 Looks good! Do you have any grafts left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HairsGone Posted October 24, 2016 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2016 Looks good! Do you have any grafts left? Dr K thought around 2000 FUT and 1000 FUE FUT 3394 grafts, Dr Ball, London, July 2015 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/180308-3394-fut-mr-ball-%40-ziering-london.html Combined FUT & FUE 3873 grafts, Dr Karadeniz, Istanbul, June 2016 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/183923-3-873-grafts-combined-fut-fue-dr-karadeniz.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member chris39 Posted October 28, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted October 28, 2016 Looks very good Hairsgone . Your hair is already improved on your pre op , so next couple of months will be interesting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member wibbles180 Posted November 23, 2016 Senior Member Share Posted November 23, 2016 Nice to see a combo procedure , look forward to watching this develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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