Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 21, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hi everyone, I hope this is in the right spot for this post. I am a 24 years old and have had a receding hairline since i was in my 20's. I have used propecia and nizoral shampoo the last year as advised by members of this website. I have had decent results with the pill and shampoo. The parts that i have fully lost have not fixed and will not probably.I have decided the last 2 weeks that i want to fix my hairline with a sergury. Iv been getting anxiety about this decision since i set a operating date 2 weeks ago. I have attached 2 pictures, one I drew a blue line of what i was quoted at the clinic roughly in the 2nd pic. I had a meeting with the consultant first and then a second meeting with Dr. Larry Fremont himself at the operating office, no pressure environment both times. The consultant also recommended 1 year of EXT but I turned it down and was given 3 months free to try it out. My questions is does 1200 graphs sound right for what i am doing? I am having Dr. Larry Freemont of the Hair Club in Toronto doing my surgery, I have seen a few of his posts on here but he is not reccomanded, well only 3 sergens are in Ontario. Anyways, is this Hair Club and Dr. Larry Fremont a reputable clinic and sergen? <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> Please any feedback would be great, my operation is this Friday and I will cancel if i need too. Posting a link to pics now....cant resize them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 21, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 21, 2009 Hi everyone, I hope this is in the right spot for this post. I am a 24 years old and have had a receding hairline since i was in my 20's. I have used propecia and nizoral shampoo the last year as advised by members of this website. I have had decent results with the pill and shampoo. The parts that i have fully lost have not fixed and will not probably.I have decided the last 2 weeks that i want to fix my hairline with a sergury. Iv been getting anxiety about this decision since i set a operating date 2 weeks ago. I have attached 2 pictures, one I drew a blue line of what i was quoted at the clinic roughly in the 2nd pic. I had a meeting with the consultant first and then a second meeting with Dr. Larry Fremont himself at the operating office, no pressure environment both times. The consultant also recommended 1 year of EXT but I turned it down and was given 3 months free to try it out. My questions is does 1200 graphs sound right for what i am doing? I am having Dr. Larry Freemont of the Hair Club in Toronto doing my surgery, I have seen a few of his posts on here but he is not reccomanded, well only 3 sergens are in Ontario. Anyways, is this Hair Club and Dr. Larry Fremont a reputable clinic and sergen? <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> Please any feedback would be great, my operation is this Friday and I will cancel if i need too. Posting a link to pics now....cant resize them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 21, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 21, 2009 Attached are photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Senior Member Fingers Crossed Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 I have personally never heard of him but that's not to say he won't do an adequate job. Personally, I'd go with a recommended surgeon from this site but anyway good luck on friday. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member vincehair Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 1200 seems ok for that amount of loss but at 24 you might be heading for a high norwood level so be careful. I'd choose a doctor with a loooooong proven track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 22, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 Thanks guys, How about the Hair Club itself? haven't they been around for a while and are a growing company with many locations?? which would make me feel like a reputable company... Yes 24 is a early age. My theory was to chase the problem at a young age and take control rather then it control you bold. Fortunately the propecia has worked with no side effects and i plan on committing to this for a very long time. I hope this stops the problem or really slows it down. So the game plan is to fix the front, keep on the pill, start rogaine foam and hopefully the problem stops. If not maybe the hair cloning technology will be avialable within 10 years! or some sort of new technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 22, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 If I keep loosing hair, Is it a concern that im doing a HT at a early age and i might kill my doner area for future transplants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member runwithscissors Posted September 22, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 The short answer is yes, having a HT at early age does deplete the donor area, especially if you have your hairline set very low and then you continue to lose more hair (which given you are likely to live for another 60+ years, is not unlikely). You don't want to end up chasing your hairline to the back of your head, which is highly likely given your early stage of hair loss. Without seeing pictures from the clinic (or more importantly the doctor that is performing the surgery) it's hard for anyone on these boards to comment on whether your chosen clinic is any good or not. If you do decide to cancel, I would recommend getting a consultation (even the online variety) with a recommended surgeon. Feller in New York is only a short plane ride from Toronto. Also, be careful to choose the right method. Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) is likely the best option for such a small number of grafts, as it means you can still shave your head if you choose not to go with future surgeries. Strip surgery will leave a linear scar which is harder to hide and thus ties you in to future surgeries. Good luck though, either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member runwithscissors Posted September 22, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 Actually, just looking again at the photos you posted, it appears that you're being set a low, square hairline - which is risky for someone aged 24. This, to me at least, is a red flag - especially if you are going for strip surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 WOAH, you need to slow down. You have obviously not done your due diligence and that is a MAJOR pitfall for any HT patient, especially a 24-year-old. I would cancel, regardless of whether or not you lose a deposit. trust me, a wrong decision can end up leaving you with a worse looking hairline than what you started with and having to pay large sums of money to get it fixed. my advice to you is to schedule consults with TOP doctors ONLY. If you are in Canada that means H&W and Rahal. hair club sounds like bosley, mhr, etc. which are hair mills. you might get a decent ht from them but it's a crapshoot and you cannot afford to gamble because as you have stated your donor supply is limited and you're so young. please do your research and fully understand what you are getting yourself into. best of luck! I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 Balding Luka, hairthere is right. Hair Club does NOT have a solid reputation as a hair transplant clinic. Dr. Fremont may or may not be a good surgeon, but what about his technicians who play a very significant role in the surgery? No one has any idea how reliable they are. Besides, 24 is very young to get a HT. Have you even tried out Propecia yet? You should be on that for at least a year before you get a HT. Right now, your hair doesn't look bad. Receding maybe, but not bad. 1200 graphs won't do much for you anyways. I hate to be so blunt, but cancel immediately and start doing your research. Not all HT surgeons are equal. I learned the hard way. Just count yourself lucky that you have been forewarned. Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 I wouldnt go with hairclub, go with a recommended clinic, by all means have the transplantr if you have your mind set on it, but I assume you want a natural result? Just because Hair Club has been around a long time, doesnt mean they are any good. How much deposit did you put down? My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 Just checked out thier website and its a piece of crap, they have no up close detailed pictures of hairlines, thats a big red flag for me. My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 22, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hey guys, Woah thanx for all the advice. I am going to cancel in the morning or now. I put down $500 deposit that i might lose. big deal..... i put down the rest of the money recently in a draft but in the contract it will be refunded to me in full if 3 days notice is given which it will. Iv been on propecia for a year. Yes it has helped. I just wanted my front hairline back thats gone completely bold, I just got a new marketing job that pays decent and being fresh out of school I wanted to fix some of the neglect i have put my body through in college. And yes you are right about FUE for my age. I will update this thread in the morning. I still do want some sort of minor HT though....I can post other pics to show how much has receded etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 22, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 Couldn't get through to them. Can they keep my full pay for a job not done if I cancel? Im fine with loosing my deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 They could fully well keep your full deposit. But don't let it bother you. You are making the wise choice. You would have regretted getting a HT with Hair Club, but you'll never regret taking more time to study the webblogs, the before and after photos in the Patient and Surgeon forums. Get to know the work of each Coalition Doc on this site and narrow it down to your favorites. Hair Club is not even good with wigs, let alone Hair Transplants. Not to overstate the obvious, but you made a life-saving decision in my opinion. Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member BaldingLuka Posted September 22, 2009 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 They can keep $6000.00? for my 1200 grafts!?!?!?? The deposit was $500.00 which i am fine with loosing, but they can keep my balance of $6000.00? yikes!! no way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 They shouldn't keep the $6,000.00. Usually you just lose the deposit. If they try to keep your $6,000, don't let them hear the end of it. Tell them you have been trying to contact them. That'd be extremely telling if they tried to keep all the money for a procedure never done. Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted September 22, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2009 if you have a contract, they wont be able to keep the balance. My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairthere Posted September 23, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2009 The reason for a deposit is to hold the spot in case you cancel. they should not keep your full balance--you'd be paying for a service you didn't use. oh and btw, i'm so glad you listened to us. I am the owner/operator of AHEAD INK a Scalp Micropigmentation Company in Fort Lee, New Jersey. www.aheadink.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member shanti Posted September 24, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted September 24, 2009 Lucky, lucky escape in my opinion. That hairline is too low and closed at the temples considering your early hairloss. It might look good for a few years and it might be what you want now but by the time you're in you'll 30's / 40's you'll have a problem. Follow the advice here and if you do decide to go ahead with surgery, only go with a what are considered to be the very best doctors in the world. There are only a handful of them and Hair Club ain't one of them! Top docs aren't any more expensive but it could save you a fortune in time and money in the long run. Be prepared to jump on a plane and some docs will even cover your airfare and hotel. It's a huge decision, especially at 24 and one that requires far more research. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member From Bald To Bold Posted September 24, 2009 Regular Member Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hey BaldingLuka, I actually got my hair transplant from Dr. Gaffney of Hair Club and haven't heard of this Dr. Fremont. I just went on the website and his name isn't on the Hair Transplant list. I am documenting my experience. So its not up to me to tell someone to go to them or not, they can decide for themselves. Two of my friends are also getting a HT from them and will also be documenting it so If anyone is thinking about getting a hair transplant from Hair Club, they can be the judge while following our progress. So far I am on Week 18 (got my hair transplant in my crown) if you want to view more photos they are below. You can also see more photos of two other guys who have sent their results to me. Photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted September 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hair Club sucks, but I dont see a problem with having the hairline placed there. My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Sparky Posted September 24, 2009 Senior Member Share Posted September 24, 2009 I knocked this up for you, took 5 mins, this is the line that was drawn on your head filled in with hair, obviously it would never be this thick but it gives you an idea. It maybe be better to be a bit more conservertive, but its your choice. My Hairloss Website http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=2198 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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