Senior Member Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Posted June 19, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2012 This man had a Norwood 6 to 7 pattern of hair loss. He had average diameter, salt-and-pepper hair and average donor density and laxity. His goal was to work from front to back to cover as much of the balding area as possible. He accepted that he could run out of available donor hair or scalp laxity before covering the whole eventual balding area. So far, we transplanted 8787 grafts in 3 sessions to his front, midscalp, lateral fringes, and anterior crown. He had 3197, 2565, and 3025 grafts. We now plan to transplant about 2400 grafts to build up his temporal hairlines and give better coverage in his crown. He will still have scalp donor hair in reserve for the future. These photos were taken 13 months after his third hair transplant. Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Seager Medical Group, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Dr. Cam Simmons is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RCWest Posted June 19, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted June 19, 2012 After the 4th session he will have had roughly 11,000 grafts? That's insane for someone with such advanced loss. It gives real hope to people with less loss! That aside, this is really a great case! Starting from nothing to a really nice head of hair for his age. Very natural! Finasteride 1.25 mg. daily Avodart 0.5 mg. daily Spironolactone 50 mg twice daily 5 mg. oral Minoxidil twice daily Biotin 1000 mcg daily Multi Vitamin daily Damn, with all the stuff you put in your hair are you like a negative NW1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Davis91 Posted June 20, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted June 20, 2012 Excellent case doctor, well done. Lucky guy! Dr. Simmons, can you comment on the graft placement strategy that you took for each session? Cases like this are rare and informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick from Farjo Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Dr Simmons, That is one good looking mop of hair that he now has. Mick Patient coordinator for Dr. Bessam Farjo who is an esteemed member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member aaron1234 Posted June 21, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted June 21, 2012 After the 4th session he will have had roughly 11,000 grafts? That's insane for someone with such advanced loss. It gives real hope to people with less loss! Ditto. Wow! I'm amazed he had that much donor in the tank. Job well done. Dr. G: 1,000 grafts (FUT) 2008 Dr. Paul Shapiro: 2,348 grafts (FUT) 2009 ~ 1,999 grafts (FUT) 2011 ~ 300 grafts (Scar Reduction) 2013 Dr. Konior: 771 grafts (FUT) 2015 ~ 558 grafts (FUT) 2017 ~ 1,124 grafts (FUE) 2020 My Hair Transplant Journey with Shapiro Medical Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member irishsailor Posted June 24, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2012 That is one lucky man Hair Transplant Dr Feller Oct 2011 Hair Transplant Dr Lorenzo June 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mickey85 Posted June 25, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted June 25, 2012 Average donor density and laxity and still almost 11,000 grafts? Have Doctors been super conservative in the past in regards to how much they can safely extract without obvious scarring etc? The only 2 threads you will ever need: Revamped Advantages/Disadvantages of FUE. Myths dispelled. Educate yourself Everything FUE. Manual, motorized, ARTAS, NeoGraft, physician details and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Posted June 26, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 26, 2012 Average donor density and laxity and still almost 11,000 grafts? Have Doctors been super conservative in the past in regards to how much they can safely extract without obvious scarring etc? Thanks everyone. Mickey85, RCWest, and aaron1234: I still work under the assumption that an average man can have 7000 - 7500 scalp grafts with FUT if they go on to develop a Norwood 7 pattern. I think donor closures have improved and that may allow for more total grafts to be transplanted but it is too early to tell. This man started in a similar trend to the past where he got 3197 grafts in his first session then got 2565 grafts after removing that scar as part of a narrower strip. He had routine undermining to prevent skin tension in his first session and had about a 1 mm wide scar but at his 2nd session he had more scarring below the skin than expected. At his 2nd session, I removed the old scar and undermined both edges and used a 2-layer closure to reduce tension. His scar after his 2nd session was still fortunately narrow but his scalp got tighter. I estimated we could get about 1600 grafts in a 3rd session if we removed his scar. Thinking that his 3rd session might be his last but knowing there was still room in the safest donor area, he elected to leave the old scar and remove a new strip. I do not offer to create a 2nd scar for men in their 20s, 30s, or early 40s but in his case, the first scar was narrow and there was room above. I was also concerned about how much more scarring there might be around that scar under the skin surface. He did some scalp stretching exercises and 22 months passed between his 2nd and 3rd sessions. (I usually recommend waiting a year between 2nd and 3rd sessions but life happened.) His flexibility improved and with a new strip and we were able to get 3025 more grafts. That strip was removed with scoring-blunt dissection and closed with a 2-layer trichophytic closure. His scalp flexibility is better now than after his 1st session. We will be able to remove the top scar and he will be left with 2 scars in the safest part of the donor area and will still have strong hair above the top scar. He should keep his hair at least 3/4 inches long to hide both scars. We limit the depth of our donor incisions now more than we did when I started transplanting in 1999 and I believe that reduces scarring, and vascular damage. Minimizing transection along the strip edges gets growing hair closer to the edges of the scar. Since adopting Dr. Tykocinsky's technique of 2-layer closure, I feel that we get narrower scars on the surface of the skin but also less scarring underneath. It also seems that we don't lose as much laxity as before. I suspect that closing the fat layer prevents the scar from tethering down to the Galea. These are impressions and suppositions only and are not tested or proven theories. While I am glad that we stayed within the safest zone and got as many grafts as we have for this patient I cannot promise that many for everyone. Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Seager Medical Group, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Dr. Cam Simmons is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Posted June 26, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 26, 2012 Excellent case doctor, well done. Lucky guy! Dr. Simmons, can you comment on the graft placement strategy that you took for each session? Cases like this are rare and informative. Thanks Davis91. I will answer your questions but want to put together a few more photos first. Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Seager Medical Group, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Dr. Cam Simmons is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Posted June 28, 2012 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2012 Excellent case doctor, well done. Lucky guy! Dr. Simmons, can you comment on the graft placement strategy that you took for each session? Cases like this are rare and informative. Davis91 Thanks for your question. He had a large balding area because of the length and the width. We started with a slightly higher and receded hairline to shrink the area a bit. We try to have a balanced natural pattern after each session but knew it would take 2 sessions to cover the front and midscalp. If he wanted a more gradual approach we could have aimed for lighter coverage over a bigger area in the first session. After it was fully grown we could go back and fill it in more in a second session. He was committed to returning for the 2nd session shortly after the first. We therefore worked from front to back so he would look finished in the frontal view faster. In his first session, we mostly created a frontal forelock that joined to his lateral fringes. we reduced the density gradually as we worked back from his hairline. It went from about 49 grafts per sq cm behind his hairline to 36 then we faded out at the back of the area to blend with his miniaturizing natural hair. He returned about 10 months later for his 2nd session. He decided that he was likely to wear a left part as he did before. We therefore transplanted his midscalp and reinforced the left part. As people naturally may have a bit stronger hair in their midscalp band, we increased the density to 42 then dropped to 36 and faded again. (We went back further than the originally marked area.) He waited about 20 months before his third session. In that session we filled in the back of the first area a bit more then worked further back in his anterior crown at about 30 grafts per square cm and faded again. In a 4th session, we can improve his temporal hairlines. We will also transplant his crown at 30-36 grafts per square cm and can expect light coverage. (Hair grows just as well in the crown as anywhere else on the scalp but it looks thinner at the same density as in the midscalp because of the hair direction from the whorl and because of the vertical angle of the skull.) His hairline and front were finished in the first session. I have attached top view photos of the plans for the 3 sessions and how he looked before each session. I have also attached side view photos after each session. Cam Simmons MD ABHRS Seager Medical Group, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Dr. Cam Simmons is a member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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