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Hello fellow transplantees, yesterday I had my second HT (4/11/12) because I was desiring a more pronounced hairline & additional density as well as better defined temple peaks & even 'fuller' eyebrows. The following are pics taken the day before my 2nd HT:

 

I am quite happy with the results of my 1st HT (2367 grafts) spread between my temples, eyebrows & front & side hairline; however more density was in order IMO so I took the plunge...again. I almost forgot how much fun (?) an HT procedure really is....8 straight hours in the chair having a strip excised that yielded 1767 grafts (the goal was 1800, so close enough for me). Dr. Pauls wanted 500 singles for my eyebrows, temple peaks & very front of hairline so that all worked out; the remaining grafts (1267) were multiples so I'm hopeful they will really 'fill in' my front hairline. The doc is fairly certain that I pry won't be needing a 3rd HT for potential crown loss down the road as my balding pattern is Norwood 3 & has remained so 15 months after my 1st HT. :P

 

Just like last time my donor region is sore as hell, even prevented me from sleeping much last night (the pain meds didn't do much to alleviate the suffering...aaaarrrghhh...but today they are working great so I'm hoping for a better nights sleep tonight;) Doc said my first scar was virtually undetectable & was quite astonished at "how great a healer you are" but I know my anti-aging administration of HGH had everything to do with that result :)

 

When I got back home, fully traumatized and in need of a high protein meal, I ate & injected 2 IU HGH instead of my usual 1 IU with the intention of kick starting the healing process. I plan to administer 2IU for the first critical week of healing & then resume my usual 1IU dosage thereafter. I have also begun my usual daily oral nutriceuticals so my body can utilize their healing properties in conjunction with the GH administration.

 

I intend to do a better job of posting timely pics this go round since I have a much better idea of what is interesting & at what times post-HT to post the pics. Looking forward to contributing my experiences to the forum since I have gained so much knowledge & support from the wonderful members of this Forum...truly a unique bunch, aren't we?;)

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How old are you? Your profile says you were born om 53, making you pushing 60. Is this accurate? It is hard to tell what your first ht did for you based on your pics. Happy growing.

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DAY 1 POST-OP PICS:

 

Hoping to avoid the dreaded facial swelling this time :mad: I've been massaging my forehead to the sides of my face, icing forehead, taking the prednisone they gave me & been on Arnica Montana for 3 days BEFORE the HT itself; I did NONE of these things last HT until the swelling actually manifested itself but by then its too late:eek: Really hoping to avoid the scary vampire-alien look that hung around my face for two days last time...we'll see what happens!

 

If anybody has any nifty suggestions to prevent/reduce post-HT swelling I'd be quite grateful to hear them;)

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like the hairline shape, pics are too small to tell much else.

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How old are you? Your profile says you were born om 53, making you pushing 60. Is this accurate? It is hard to tell what your first ht did for you based on your pics. Happy growing.

 

Yes I am 58 yo. Here are some pics taken just before my first HT on January 21, 2011; you can see the diffuse thinning & receding hairline as well as the thinning out & receding of the temple peaks; in addition both outer portions of my eyebrows had pretty much disappeared, along with thinning of the inner eyebrow as well.

 

The very last pic was how I appeared during the worst of the swelling phase :eek:

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When I said pic enough, I was talking about the resolution. Yes, that was a nice cosmetic change. I hope I am where you are when at am your age.

 

This proceedure on your hair will really set it off. Congrats.

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When I said pic enough, I was talking about the resolution. Yes, that was a nice cosmetic change. I hope I am where you are when at am your age.

 

This proceedure on your hair will really set it off. Congrats.

 

Thanks Spanker, decent of you.The rez is 8 mp due to using iPhone 4s camera. I'll enlist my wife's help in taking better pics down the road with our better rez camera.

 

It really does make a huge difference appearance-wise to have an actual hairline again & normal eyebrows to frame your face...rolls a good 10-15 years off your mug:cool:

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You look great for 58!

 

I've never heard of this Dr. Pauls, but from your review he seems to be up to date on things.

Finasteride 1.25 mg. daily

Avodart 0.5 mg. daily

Spironolactone 50 mg twice daily

5 mg. oral Minoxidil twice daily

Biotin 1000 mcg daily

Multi Vitamin daily

 

Damn, with all the stuff you put in your hair are you like a negative NW1? :D

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Thanks Spanker, decent of you.The rez is 8 mp due to using iPhone 4s camera. I'll enlist my wife's help in taking better pics down the road with our better rez camera.

 

It really does make a huge difference appearance-wise to have an actual hairline again & normal eyebrows to frame your face...rolls a good 10-15 years off your mug:cool:

 

Hey GetHairInFront - fantastic hair for your age, congrats!!!

 

Just as an aside - none of the pics you've posted are 8 megapixel - I suspect some of the software you are using is reducing their size and lowering the resolution, it's definitely not the native pics which have been loaded. 8 Megapixel is more than enough, none of the pictures on this forum are that high quality.

 

Cheers

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Hey GetHairInFront - fantastic hair for your age, congrats!!!

 

Just as an aside - none of the pics you've posted are 8 megapixel - I suspect some of the software you are using is reducing their size and lowering the resolution, it's definitely not the native pics which have been loaded. 8 Megapixel is more than enough, none of the pictures on this forum are that high quality.

 

Cheers

 

Damn iPhone camera works as good as Siri does :mad: I'll have wife take more pics using a better camera, hopefully that will be high rez.

 

Just took my first shower & washed my hair:p MAN does that first hair washing feel good:D I'm feeling human again, I definitely wouldn't do well living in a mud hut somewhere w/out running water. Donor site feels a lot less painful today (day 2 Post-op) tho a bit tight. Otherwise my recipient areas have no discomfort, that amazes me. Slept better last night too:p w/less pain...looking forward to resuming my normal sleeping position in a few nights. Funny how it all comes back to you when its your 2nd HT experience....good stuff in a couple of months!

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Here are hopefully some much better pics taken just now by my lovely wife:p using macro-setting w/flash:

 

 

 

 

 

You can better see the eyebrow work done in the front pic & the side pics as well as I had most singles put in the outer portions of both brows (delicate work requiring mucho skillo on the doc's part). The top of head pic shows why I wanted more density & a more specific hairline. I am really excited already about the future outcome of the temple peaks - although I had temple work done at the 1st HT, I decided I wanted more pronounced peaks; my father had amazing temple peaks & it really made him appear distinguished & handsome regardless of his age. Being 58 now myself I want to make this the final HT & decided to just "get 'er done" now that I know what 'look' I want after waiting 15 months after my 1st HT.

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Gothairinfront, you look good. I think this final transplant is going to come out great. Some people have mentioned HGH makes their hair better as well. What brand/dosage of HGH are you using? I wonder if the natural HGH products come close to the one you are using. Happy growing.

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Gothairinfront, you look good. I think this final transplant is going to come out great. Some people have mentioned HGH makes their hair better as well. What brand/dosage of HGH are you using? I wonder if the natural HGH products come close to the one you are using. Happy growing.

 

Sean, I have been using Omnitrope brand by Sandoz labs the past 3 years (when I began Dr. prescribed GH therapy). I inject 1 iu daily for anti-aging purposes though I am injecting 2 iu's daily this first week after my HT to promote incredible healing & rapid transplanted hair growth. My 1st HT I used my regular 1 iu/day dose & was very pleased with both the initial & eventual outcome (except I discovered that I wanted an even thicker, denser hairline - who doesn't, right?;)) My slogan in life seems to be "Go Big or Go Home":cool:, it seems to work for me...and my wife! She loves having her fingers in my hair again, just like when we met 14 yrs ago.

Injectable HGH works wonders for your hair; it increases shaft thickness, rapidity of growth, & eliminated the 'old guy wiry hair' look that accompanies aging...it also has helped reduce my gray hairs by darkening most of my hair, tho not all. HGH secretagogues will certainly be efficacious as well, but you should not use these innocuous sups unless you need them, usually starting around your 40's when your natural HGH secretion begins to wane. Secretagogues are also SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than actual injectable HGH but is the way to go if you start in your 40's.:D

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I have to admire your balls, GotHairInFront. I would never have the bottle to get eyebrow transplants, or to try HGH. Very much like your motto I guess, go big or go home - and it seems to be working for you!

 

Looking forward to seeing your updates on this one, and congrats on the success with HGH.

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I have to admire your balls, GotHairInFront. I would never have the bottle to get eyebrow transplants, or to try HGH. Very much like your motto I guess, go big or go home - and it seems to be working for you!

 

Looking forward to seeing your updates on this one, and congrats on the success with HGH.

 

BIG BALLS! Like AC/DC song...LOL :D Hey England, the eyebrows were a necessity to stay congruent with a healthy younger looking head of hair....nothing screams "Old & in the way" like half an eyebrow! The males on my mom's side all seem to have vanishing eyebrows as they got older, as opposed to some dudes whose eyebrows grow wild with age:confused: Must be genetics involved, like MPB itself. Anyway, the eyebrows aren't uncomfortable AT ALL, they don't itch (not like the scalp recipient areas), but you do get more swelling (depending on how many grafts you receive in them) - understandable. Eyebrows gobble up single grafts (as I found out). I needed 75 right side, nearly 100 left side (mainly in outer portions). But totally pain free afterwards. The results should become apparent as soon as the scabs fall off since I experienced minimal eyebrow shedding my first HT procedure (unlike my scalp which had a lot more initial shedding after a couple of weeks).

 

BTW- What does "I would never have 'the bottle' mean? Must be an English colloquialism ? I plan to start using the phrase once I understand its proper meaning here in the good ole USA!:P

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So today is Day #6 post HT & several remarkable IMO events have occurred :

1) My scabs are completely gone now from my head, temples & eyebrows! I had no bleeding whatsoever gently rubbing off the scabs so I presume I lost zero grafts in this process:D It took 7-8 days post-op to lose all my scabs during my first HT when I was injecting 1 iu daily; this go round I am using 2 iu's daily & I can see & feel a real difference from the first HT.

2) The revealed hairs after removing the scabs appear to be growing already & are anchored securely in my scalp (I conclude this because I have not lost any grafts as evidenced by 'bleeding' from a lost graft site. My first Ht I did lose several grafts during the scab removal process.

3) My recipient area was of course pink & bumpy immediately post-op but as of the evening of Day #6 post-op my recipient area has its normal skin tone without any redness or inflammation. I will be able to resume my work tomorrow meeting clients & employees without the need for a ball cap to cover up. I 'm pretty psyched about this result because I did not achieve this return to normalcy my first HT until the second week. Obviously doubling the dosage to 2 iu/day has had a prolific impact on my scalps healing quality & speed of recovery.

4) My facial swelling was severe during my first HT & lasted a good 7 days before it completely resolved. This time I would describe my swelling as mild/moderate & it has resolved today. Appearing in public will not be an issue tomorrow as a consequence.

I conclude that increasing my daily dosage to 2 iu has had many beneficial results affecting my healing progress the first week after my 2nd HT.

I will have my wife take high rez pics tomo to document my observations (she is sleeping now, Bless her!).

I will be interested to see how this initial increase in dosage affects my shedding & subsequent regrowth of shed follicles & future shock loss prevention (if so) & shock loss regrowth times.

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Here are my pics from the evening of Day 7 Post HT:

The whitish hairs are the immature transplanted hairs that have begun to grow already; we'll see how long they stay in place actually growing before Shedding occurs:) My scabs are pretty much all gone now & appearing in public drew no gasps of horror from children or the general public today :D so glad the swelling & pink recipient areas are no longer visible;)

The eyebrows look pretty normal too now that the scabs fell off on their own (didn't have to rub them off, the doc said eyebrow grafts can be a little more iffy & advised against rubbing them off).

Now its just a waiting game! The worst part is over & am hoping for minimal shock loss!

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:D OK so the big news on my end is that I popped my first pimple on Day 14 Post -op & have been popping an average of 2-3/day ever since. I have popped 4 pimples on my eyebrows starting on Day 21 post-op, followed by the emergence of single hairs immediately after. The first pic shows the pimples needing to be popped & the dark spots towards the top of pic are ones I popped earlier today. I am getting nice hairs emerging all along my front recipient area, some dark, some quite light in color.

I suffered some shock loss in the very center & to each side as well but am confident these hairs will re-appear when they are damn good & ready;) My temples have begun sprouting & growing as well & I can feel the swelling of forming pimples the past two days so will be popping in my temples soon I can tell.

My scar is pain free now & my doctor (at my 10 day exam) marveled how quickly my donor site was healing, stating that I could have had my stitches removed at 7 days cos it was somewhat difficult to pull the stitches out.

My healing/growing progress is superior to even my first HT last year due no doubt to my increased HGH dosage of 2iu/day the past month (compared to just 1 iu/day my first 30 days post-HT the first go-round, which is my usual anti-aging dosage). I will revert to this 1 iu/day from now on since I have given this 2nd HT the benefit of a damn good jump start the past 28 days. I see no reason to continue at 2 iu's /day going forward; the immediate benefits have already been experienced & will now settle into my baseline "growing season".

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Looking good. You seem to be able to go hatless in public and most people would not be able to tell you just had work done.

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Looking good. You seem to be able to go hatless in public and most people would not be able to tell you just had work done.

 

Spanker, that is quite true, in fact I went back to work on Day 7 Post-HT w/out any issues or hats. The scabs had all fallen off & my existing hair did much to conceal any residual pinkness. My first HT was a somewhat different story as the recipient area had little to no existing hair to camouflage the work done. So far I'm quite pleased with the progress over all:D

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Well the pimples have finally slowed down somewhat after having made their first appearance at the two week mark until now. I have seen nice new hair growth so far with the gaps in the middle of my hairline and at the front sides beginning to fill in somewhat, so I'm glad to see that :D but I keep checking it out in the mirror til I drive myself nuts & finally take a break!

My eyebrows are filling in nicely already & my scar is slightly pink but I have experienced no stretching of it:p This was the observation of Dr. Pauls at the 5 week post HT exam where she pronounced me to be doing fine & ahead of the typical growth schedule (she was quite surprised at the number of pimples which indicates new growth occurring).

 

Here are some updated pics taken just now. Cheers & happy growing to all!!

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I found arranging these pics in this order to best illustrate the progress since my HT on April 11, 2012; the first pic in each identical series is Day7, second pic is at 1 month, & third pic is at 1 1/2 months Post HT. I am encouraged & reminded to be patient! (Not my best attribute :P)

Be around again at the 2 month mark, keep on growing friends!

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