Senior Member iwokeuptoabaldpatch Posted December 29, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 29, 2011 Hi Am now 6 weeks post HT. The pre existing hair i had before the op is still very very slow to grow back. In fact its growing at a snails pace and i still look almost bald on top wheras before i had good coverage altho it was thinning. Ive been applying regaine to the recipient area for 2 weeks as well as taking biotin tablets and this seems to have finally started growth. After a dreadful 1st month post HT. However i understand there is this MSM which is also good. Could someone kindly explain what this is and hwere to buy it in the Uk and dosages typical pric e etc thanks a lot
Senior Member wylie Posted December 29, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 29, 2011 "Methylsulfonylmethane" (MSM) is an organic source of sulfur, which, according to my bottle, is one of the major building blocks of "glycosaminoglycans" , which is a "key structural component in the maintenance of joint cartilage", and it is also good for hair, skin, and nails. As far as dosage, I take 750 mg a day, but am bumping it up to 1500 mg. The bottle actually recommends three pills daily (one with each meal) which would be 2250 mg per day, but I think 1500 mg is enough. You can buy them anywhere you buy vitamins.
Senior Member tarepanda Posted December 30, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 30, 2011 I also have question about taking supplements. Does taking biotin n msm cause any shedding initially like minoxidil n propecia before they start to improving the existing hair?
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted December 30, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 30, 2011 Doesn't cause a shed it just makes your nails and hair grow faster as i have tried it and can say it actually seems to do so. It must some how push out dead cells faster because i suffer from a bit of acne but whilst using msm my face was completely covered in spots so don't use if prone to spots or acne as it took me 7 months to see my face again. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk
Senior Member iwokeuptoabaldpatch Posted December 30, 2011 Author Senior Member Posted December 30, 2011 Thanks guys im going to buy some tommorow from holland and barret
Senior Member gillenator Posted December 30, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 30, 2011 HiAm now 6 weeks post HT. The pre existing hair i had before the op is still very very slow to grow back. In fact its growing at a snails pace and i still look almost bald on top wheras before i had good coverage altho it was thinning. Ive been applying regaine to the recipient area for 2 weeks as well as taking biotin tablets and this seems to have finally started growth. After a dreadful 1st month post HT. However i understand there is this MSM which is also good. Could someone kindly explain what this is and hwere to buy it in the Uk and dosages typical pric e etc thanks a lot You have made it 6 weeks post-op and in another 6 weeks, you should begin seeing new growth emerging. I tried MSM once and it did nothing to speed up the regrowth. The best thing to do is nothing and just let it come in and grow! Happy regrowth to you! Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY
Senior Member iwokeuptoabaldpatch Posted December 30, 2011 Author Senior Member Posted December 30, 2011 Thanks Gillenator. TBH mate if i could just get my pre op existing hair back within the next 6 weeks i would be ecstatic. Its been a terrible ordeal on this third 3 HT to for the first time experience shock loss (fist sized bald patch on fue donor area to right, smaller one on left, and general lack of old hair regrowth in recip area due to shock and being shaved down for op- that wasnt done on fiorst two ops which were strips). The recovery on my first 2 ops (250graft and 750 graft) respectivelly was like a dream, no shock loss, no hassle after 2 weeks off..) just a smile in my mind every day i woke up and went to work and a great subtle result! This one has been a bloody nightmare and its affected my life drastically having to hide away from friends and the gf who has just about walked out asking why i always wear a hat suddenly. just hope the next 6 weeks things improve!
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted December 30, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 30, 2011 Ha ha snap my 3rd has been a real hide away job with it being strip and the others fue it took 4 months to get back my pre op hair. It's all good at least you know you're taking a whack now to recover and gain a better future. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk
Senior Member NEWHAIRPLEASE Posted December 31, 2011 Senior Member Posted December 31, 2011 I have seen a lot of MSM that comes with glucosamine which is also really good for your joints!! Newhairplease!! Dr Rahal in January 19, 2012:) 4808 FUT grafts- 941 singles, 2809 doubles, 1031 triples, 27 quads My Hairloss Website
Senior Member iwokeuptoabaldpatch Posted December 31, 2011 Author Senior Member Posted December 31, 2011 thanks bonkerstonker tbh mate its your thread and than your improvement about what happened to you, that has kept me going, as our pre 3rd HT hairlines were very similar as well as the way u looked one month post HT. I cant wait to make it to 2 months. I just hope the next 2 weeks are big. Most my recip area seems to have a huge amount of pimples with small spiky hairs sticking up! Under extreme light which i work under, being in graphic design, it makes me look like i had brain surgery! Thanks newhairloss, i also have dodgy knees from years of cross country, so im sure the MSM will help that too! I got some today at GNC 1000mg 30 tablets for ?5.89! Ill take 2000mg a day!
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted January 1, 2012 Senior Member Posted January 1, 2012 Shockloss is nerve racking but as long as you had a good surgeon which I'm sure you had then it will return. Before my Ht I was nervous having a Ht in-between so much existing hair but I'd do it a million times now. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk
Senior Member tarepanda Posted January 1, 2012 Senior Member Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Shockloss is nerve racking but as long as you had a good surgeon which I'm sure you had then it will return. Before my Ht I was nervous having a Ht in-between so much existing hair but I'd do it a million times now. i am having shockloss at my donor area now, freaking me out whenever i shampoo my hair. hi bonkerstoner, i saw ur blog and found that u too had this problem. have all the shockloss around your scar regrow back? Edited January 1, 2012 by tarepanda
Senior Member bonkerstonker Posted January 1, 2012 Senior Member Posted January 1, 2012 Yes it grows back by month 5 I'd imagine yours will be quicker as my scar stretched so it made things harder for me as I required more length to comb over the scar. A big game changer for me regarding the scar was at month 5 I had my hair cut I walked into the barber shop with a obvious scar and walked out with a invisible scar. I know in theory that makes no sense to cut hair and get better coverage but he used the scar line as a step down margin between buzz blades from blade 5 to 4 and it disappeared into the hair cut. Bonkerstonker! http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=1977 Update I'm now on 12200 Grafts, hair loss has been a thing of my past for years. Also I don't use minoxidil anymore I lost no hair coming off it. Reduced propecia to 1mg every other day. My surgeons were Dr Hasson x 4, Dr Wong x 2 Norton x1 I started losing my hair at 19 in 1999 I started using propecia and minoxidil in 2000 Had 7 hair transplants over 12200 grafts by way of strip but 700 were Fue From Norton in uk
Senior Member gillenator Posted January 5, 2012 Senior Member Posted January 5, 2012 Possibly you can have the strip scar revised so it is not as wide but get it evaluated for that because it requires adequate laxity. Gillenator Independent Patient Advocate I am not a physician and not employed by any doctor/clinic. My opinions are not medical advice, but are my own views which you read at your own risk. Supporting Physicians: Dr. Robert Dorin: The Hairloss Doctors in New York, NY
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