Laser Comb/Herbal DHT Blocker/Rogaine 5 months now

[Dr. Alan Feller]

Dr. Mohmand,

I am confused. You lost your Coaltion membership because you don't use microscopes. You acknowledged this. Yet, when I read the homepage of your website it plainly reads:

 

"We cut all our grafts under a microscope..."

 

Can you explain this inconsistency?

 

Thank you.

[PLEASE GROW PLEASE]

I believe he was only recommended not in Coalition.

He has bought new scopes since then

[Bill - Seemiller]

Dear forum members,

 

The discrepancy Dr. Feller is referring to above was one of the reasons we originally missed that Dr. Mohmand wasn't regularly using microscopes as part of his practice. This resulted in his removal from recommendation. Why the information on the website didn't change, I expect Dr. Mohmand will address this.

 

I appreciate Dr. Fellers explanation of the benefits of using microscopes verses loupes. In my opinion, Dr. Mohmand is a perfect example of what Dr. Feller is saying is true: that quality results can be produced with loupes. However, this was never the question. Because microscopes are a powerful tool and clinically proven to produce fewer transected grafts, we believe at the very minimum, microscopes should be used for the slivering process. This is why we clearly state in our physician selection standards for recommendation:

 

"A demonstrated proficiency and commitment to performing high quality follicular unit hair transplantation using grafts that are microscopically prepared."

 

Dr. Mohmand has taken on this task and now regularly uses microscopes for the slivering process. We commend Dr. Mohmand for taking the high road and adopting the use of microscopes as a regular part of his practice.

 

Now that Dr. Mohmand meets the only missing requirement for recommendation, we'd like to invite him to become a recommended sponsor once again. At this time, we are only discussing recommendation, not the Coalition.

 

We will be creating a new thread on this topic in the near future.

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[lorenzo]

have to agree with Dr. M that a clinic does not have to use microscopes to perform top quality results.

 

I think that is it also important to point out that just because a clinic uses microscopes doesn't mean you are going to get a top quality result.

 

Although I believe microscopes are essential part of having consistant top quality results, the doctor ability is even more important.

Just because you have a ferrari doesn't make you an indy driver......

[Bill - Seemiller]

Although I believe microscopes are essential part of having consistant top quality results, the doctor ability is even more important.

 

Lorenzo,

 

Great point. Just because a physician has the tools, doesn't mean he has the talent.

 

This is why our physician requirements for recommendation focus a lot more on the skill of the physician and their staff than the tools. However, a quality physician without the best tools are also potentially handicapped.

 

Just because you have a ferrari doesn't make you an indy driver......

 

Agreed! But give an Indy driver a hugo, and he won't be winning any races either

 

In my opinion, you give the best talent the right tools, and anything is possible .

 

Best wishes,

 

Bill

[Dr. Alan Feller]

That certainly clears up that confusion. Thank you.

[Dr. Alan Feller]

Dr. Mohmand,

Why didn't you disclose that you were working with Hairmax on their Medical Advisory Team?

 

http://www.hairmax.com/landing_dr.aspx

[FenderPlayer]

hmmm that seems kind of unethical to me.....

 

http://www.lasercomb.net/CompanyInformation/AdvisoryBoard.aspx

[Dr. Mohammad Humayun Mohma]

Dear Bill

 

I am glad to see the thread of Jakevig in another section about the view of ISHRS which I believe is authentic.

 

Now I was wondering if I was really doing the wrong thing and trust me I could not even sleep feeling if I had betrayed my patients, Thanks to God Almighty that I have been proved not wrong.

This does not mean that LLLT is the best treatment or so, all it says that give it a chance.

 

I for a second could not believe that all these doctors who are well reputed were doing unethical practice as My honourable colleague DR Feller was implying.

 

The doctors are

Dear Bill

 

I am so relieved to hear this.

 

I also started to wonder if I have been disillusioned by the doctors who are so well reputed like

DR Kurgis in California

Dr Alan J Bauman Florida

Dr Dr Shelly Friedman ABHRS Arizona

Dr Bruce Marko

Dr Robert Leonard New England

Dr James Harris Denver

Dr Steven P. Jepson

Dr Gambino

Dr Mark Baxa NY

Dr Iglesias

Dr Reese

 

not to forget Dr Levitt, Dr Perez Mendeza and Dr Maria

 

 

One more thing I am still not a paid Advisor with Lexington international. And I have been put as an advisor cause I was using the Lexington laser comb. Mind you during all this conversation I never defended Lexington company, I defended LLLT. This I guess shows my impartiality if anything.

 

Anyway, The case is losed and I guess if body like ISHRS can give a credit of 11% improvement with LLLT then who am I or Dr Feller to negate that unless if we come with a solid prove either way.

 

But it was a healthy discussion and the good thing is we both listened to each other with patients and honour.

 

We are here to argue and defend our believes and not to win or loose.

In the end the forum wins and hair restoration practice wins.

 

God Bless all of us.

 

 

 

Regards

[Ceasar08]

Aren't there a LOT of doctors using the lasers? Why aren't all of those other people listed as advisers as well?

[Dr. Mohammad Humayun Mohma]

As far as my disclosure is concern, I thought as i am not a paid advisor, and that advise was mainly my experience so i did not disclosed it, and I guess I should be apologising for that, but I never took the name of company to which I am attached. I think that will show my integrity and unbiased openion about LLLT in general rather than for lexington in perticular.

 

I am sorry for that non-disclosure, I hope i will be forgiven.

[Dr. Mohammad Humayun Mohma]

Please read this DR Feller

 

 

ISHRS Press Release

 

 

Low-Level Laser Therapy is Now a Do-It-Yourself Hair Loss Treatment

 

NEW YORK (October 16, 2003)- While lasers are best known as high-energy beams of coherent light that can cut through a variety of materials including human tissue, low-energy laser light has been found to be capable of modulating beneficial biologic effects in human, animal and plant cells. The biomodulating effects of low-level laser light on human cells has been adapted to medical uses such as enhanced wound healing and treatment of some types of pain, and to cosmetic uses associated with effects on human skin.

 

Low-level laser light has also been found to have biomodulating effects on human hair and hair follicles. The effectiveness of low-level laser light in hair restoration was described today by Martin Unger, MD, Toronto, Canada, in a presentation at the 11th Annual Meeting of the International Society of Hair Restoration Surgery (ISHRS). The ISHRS is meeting October 15-19, 2003, at the Marriott Marquis Hotel, New York City.

 

Clinical studies have shown that low-level laser light is effective both cosmetically and physiologically in hair restoration, Dr. Unger said. The cosmetic effects include improvements in hair sheen and strength, characteristics that enhance the perception of "fullness" in overall hair appearance. Physiologic effects on hair follicles observed in both men and women include (1) prevention of hair loss, and (2) stimulation of hair regrowth in areas of hair loss. Dr. Unger, a physician hair restoration specialist, is medical director of a firm that makes a hand-held low-level laser therapy device for home use in hair restoration (HairMAX LaserComb, Lexington International, Boca Raton, FL). The device is accepted as a Medical Device in Canada, and advertising is allowed to make therapeutic claims that it (1) increases strength of scalp hair in men and women, (2) prevents scalp hair loss in men and women, and (3) causes regrowth of scalp hair in men and women. In the United States it is accepted by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use as a Cosmetic Laser Product. Approval by the FDA as a Medical Device is pending while appropriate clinical trials are completed. The device is also sold in other countries outside North America.

 

Low-level laser medical therapy is currently approved by the FDA for treatment of carpal tunnel syndrome and for relief of discomfort, Dr. Unger said.

 

The device described by Dr. Unger is a hand-held, wand-like instrument with laser-light ports arranged across its surface like the teeth of a comb. Laser light in the visible red light spectrum is generated in a laser diode. The energy level is far below that of laser beams that cut or burn tissue. Rather, the low-level red laser light has a very low absorption rate in human tissue. Low-level laser therapy for hair restoration is also delivered in a hood-like device that fits over a patient's head much like a hair dryer in a beauty salon.

 

The mechanism of action of low-level laser light on human cells is not completely understood. The interaction of laser light with cells has the basic feature of modulating cell behavior without causing significant temperature increase inside the cells; higher-energy lasers used to treat some types of cancer destroy cancer cells by heating them from the inside. A resulting photochemical reaction inside cells treated with low-level laser light may alter physical and chemical properties of molecules important to cellular activities.

 

Two of the most significant effects of low-level laser light in wound healing and in pain control, Dr. Unger said, are improved arterial and venous blood flow and decreased inflammation. The effects of low-level laser light associated with its effects of hair and hair follicles are not known with precision.

 

In clinical trials, 97% of patients have had some benefit in improvement of hair characteristics, stabilization of hair loss, or hair regrowth, Dr. Unger said. Hair regrowth is defined by Dr. Unger and colleagues as an increase of hair count of 11% or more from baseline count.

 

In the most recently conducted FDA clinical trials of the device, patients studied were men and women with thinning hair in the scalp area. The patients received two low-level laser light treatments per week over a six-month period. Results have shown:

 

100% of men had stabilization of hair loss in frontal and vertex (top of the head) areas;

84.6% of men had hair regrowth (11% of more from baseline) in the frontal area;

82.8% of men had hair regrowth (11% or more from baseline) in the vertex area;

87.5% of women had stabilization of hair loss in the frontal area;

100% of women had stabilization of hair loss in the vertex area;

75% of women had hair regrowth (11% or more from baseline) in the frontal area; and,

96.4% of women had hair regrowth (11% or more from baseline) in the vertex area.

No side effects of low-level laser therapy have been observed, Dr. Unger said. There have been no reports of eye damage from exposure to low-level laser light.

 

Patients with medical conditions such as a history of skin cancer, persistent scalp infections, and photosensitivity to laser light were excluded from the study.

 

The ISHRS is the world's largest not-for-profit professional organization in the field of hair restoration surgery, with 512 physician members in 45 countries. The organization was founded in 1992 to promote the enhancement of the specialty of hair restoration surgery through education, information-sharing, and observance of ethical standards.

[Dr. Alan Feller]

Dr. Mohmand,

 

There are now too many threads dedicated to LLLT and we are repeating ourselves across several of them.

 

Let's leave this thread alone and continue our debate on either of the following LLLT threads in the Open Section of this Forum:

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=156127

 

or

 

http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/showthread.php?t=153003

 

 

List of respected doctors OPPOSED to LLLT

[ryanmiller1122]

Well I am no doctor but I am a current patient at a laser hair loss clinic and I would just like to say it IS working for me. I am not sure about Dr. Fellers motivation for such a strong opinion but I have posted quite a few times that it has worked for me and I can say that there are many other people who have benefited from the treatments. You can find some patient before after photos here: (Links removed by moderator - See Terms of Service)

 

I can state with 100% assurance that these are real phhotos of real patients of LLLT and that they have not been altered or retouched in anyway.

 

Anyone who would like some more information on Laser Hair Therapy can feel free to contact me.

Edited June 30, 2011 by TakingThePlunge
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[rich91403]

Dear Worriedgirl,

 

You seemed to have provoked a hotly debated question!!! Bravo.

Now getting back to your question......

Glad to hear you are getting such positive results with your regimen. Why not continue with the natural DHT blocker formulation and your minoxidil and discontinue the laser and then evaluate after 6 months? It seems you are leaning in the direction of discontinuing the laser anyway.

 

I have not seen any hard science on the laser being efficacious. It has been shown that laser actually changes to light as it passes through tissue, in effect, changing the "energy" that is supposed act on the target tissue. I am far from an expert on light physics and I have found the above posts very interesting and enlightening to read. Thanks for firing up the forum.

 

Try a 6 month protocol with 2 of the elements of your protocol and evaluate after six months. It would be very interesting if you could document your findings.

 

Good Luck WG,

Rich

[ryanmiller1122]

I would also suggest that you do the opposite too. Stop all the other treatments, and just do LLLT for the same amount of time. I think you will be suprised to find that the LLLT is encouraging your hair growth as much as, if not more, than any of the other products you are using. I am only using LLLT and as I said above it IS working for me, and quite a few other people too.

[pelado]

i would also suggest that you do the opposite too. Stop all the other treatments, and just do lllt for the same amount of time. I think you will be suprised to find that the lllt is encouraging your hair growth as much as, if not more, than any of the other products you are using. I am only using lllt and as i said above it is working for me, and quite a few other people too.

 

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