Senior Member azza786 Posted June 4, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2008 Byehair- this was the whole incentive of me to open this thread in the first place- opinion opinion opinions... yes indeed future surgery was on the cards but coming in this respect i.e. having to work on something that was the amin issue of the first one was not the incentive. but what must be done must be done im afraid and thats the bitter truth. 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Imissme Posted June 4, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted June 4, 2008 Since you're going for an appearance with more thickness, I thought I'd ask if you have used any concealers such as DermaMatch or any of the others? With the work you've had done and the good results you have so far, I'll bet you'd have exactly what you're looking for if you could master the application of a good concealer. Either way, looking good dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PLEASE GROW PLEASE Posted June 4, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2008 1500 isnt going to do much .You need a max session . It all depends on your laxity. Also stop playing around with fin . Jumping on and off the fin can do more harm then good, especially at such a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dakota3 Posted June 4, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2008 I think IF you've got another 3500 grafts you should use 1500 in the front 1000 in the mid 1/3 and leave 1000 in hopes for future advancements such as cloning. It appears for the area you had to cover and the few amount of grafts that you used to cover that area it was a success. I do have to say that it definatly is thinner in the front then I would personally like, but its a MAJOR improvent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TheEmperor Posted June 4, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted June 4, 2008 Azza, I had a HT with another coalition physician. I am about 6 months out and while my result is very thin, it looks mostly natural. Your case helps me understand the wisdom of planting a slightly receded hairline. If you've only got 40-50% of your native density, and the doctor plants a low hairline, it cannot look natural or good. However, it is not uncommon to see thin hair and recession together. Also, a higher hairine means the Dr. can plant at a higher density because he has less ground to cover. Your current result almost _requires_ that you get an immediate follow-up. Given the fact that Rahal knew you would need to go back for a second "in 5 to 6 years", why did he not plant a hairline that stands on its own from a naturalness standpoint? If you know you are going to return at a later date, then you can always lower the hairline. I really do not think this was well planned by Rahal. He has demonstrated great technical and artistic abilty, but I would say his decision making in your case was flawed. Either that or there was a problem with yield. Good luck. My Hair Loss Web Site - Hair Transplant with Dr. Wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Azza, I think the best thing to do at this point is to consult with Dr. Rahal in person so he can examine your scalp and determine the growth yield. I'm certain that he will do all he can to make sure you are satisfied while taking into account your future hair loss and long term game plan. He has an excellent track record with a high level of patient care. But as much as we'd like them to, no physician bats a 1000. If some hair didn't grow in and behind the hairline, I'm certain that he will do all he can to make things right. Please keep us posted on your situation. Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 5, 2008 firstly let me say what a surprise i got when i saw 10 different replies waiting for me at the same time on this forum. thanks for that yes definately, as Bill says meeting up is the way forward right now and yes indeed both myself and dr rahal have agreed on this as the best plan for action first and then take it from there. hopefully hopefully, i would most lkely meet him in july sometimes. 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member latinlotus Posted September 10, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted September 10, 2008 I really do not think this was well planned by Rahal. He has demonstrated great technical and artistic abilty, but I would say his decision making in your case was flawed. Either that or there was a problem with yield. There are so many mentions about # of grafts, density and the large surface of the recipient area of Azza786. However, there is only one post that mentions a possibility of problem with the yield. 3608 grafts is a huge amount, regardless of the size of the recipient area, and based on the picture, IMO, a lot of it did not survive. This leads to the question of whose fault is it: Dr. Rahal handling of the grafts during the surgery or the patient's scalp does not take implants well. IMO, based on the 2 day - up to 1 month post-op pictures, Dr. Rahal did a very good job planning the HT. Azza786 mentioned a density of 40 grafts/cm2 and bverotti calculated a density of 27 grafts/cm2, but based on the 1 yr pics, it looks much less than 27 grafts/cm2. Draw a cm2 on a piece of paper and put 27 dots with a pencil and compare. On a separate note, we are all here to get an honest opinion, not cheerleading. It does not help the patient to say the result looks good, when it is clearly not. ******** I am not a doctor. The opinions and comments are of my own. HT with Dr. Cooley on Nov 20, 2008 2097 grafts, 3957 hairs Proscar, 1.25 mg daily, skip the 5th day, started Nov 2007 My Hair Loss Blog - Hair Transplant with Dr. Cooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MikeTheDane Posted September 10, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted September 10, 2008 I must admit, i thought i was in bad shape. Such extensive hairloss at your age must have been detrimental. know that you are not the only young one here having had a HT, both me and Thanopsy_awry had one at 21 (though i am the only one scheduled for a 2nd as far as i know) but i am only a NW2.5 Never the less, best of luck in the future. Are you going to wait a while to see if there is any further shedding, or are you scheduling for a second one? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 11/04-07 - 800-1600 ish grafts - danish clinic - poor results 12/02-08 - 2764 grafts - Dr. Devroye - good result but needs hairline density 03/12-10 - 1429 grafts - Dr. Mohmand - result pending Feel free to visit my picture thread My Hair Transplant Photos - Surgery with Dr. Devroye Young lads below 25 unite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted September 10, 2008 latin lotus- not long to go till i go to canada so all shall be revealed there and then. mike the dane- ye ofcourse it is detrimental. im kinda lucky as of now that my donor hair is good so i can always go back for future surgerys (not that im going to deplete them all in the next few years!). i just want to reach the goal of having a nice non-seethrough hairline which i failed to achieve first time round. i am going back in november for a procedure of 1500-2000 grafts focusing on the hairline so heres hoping for the best! 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member thanatopsis_awry Posted September 10, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted September 10, 2008 Azza, Have you considered going back for a larger session (not that Rahal would foot the bill for the whole thing) to address as much as can be done in the next pass? ----------- *A Follicles Dying Wish To Clinics* 1 top-down, 1 portrait, 1 side-shot, 1 hairline....4 photos. No flash. Follicles have asked for centuries, in ten languages, as many times so as to confuse a mathematician. Enough is enough! Give me documentation or give me death! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted September 10, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted September 10, 2008 thana, you should know that for us young guys...its best to make wise use of the donor that we have. its all about long term planning isnt it. i feel that if the objective of this trip is accomplished, then it would get one major objective out the way. i would love to have a mega session (wouldnt we all)? but we all have different circumstances. i even consulted with H&W just to get an idea of what they feel and they quoted the same number of grafts as rahal did for this 'touch up' procedure. im sure i will end up getting more than 1500 grafts but even if we keep it to the minimum and assume that i end up using 1500 grafts, that would be a combination of HT1 and HT2 of just over 5000 grafts! az 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2008 hello people, im back to update my HT biography lol. im now at 16 month post op and 1 month to go for HT number 2. I have updated my blog today. please take a look. The pics consist of my hair which has recently been cut-- been about 1.5 weeks. im also currently preparing for my second minor HT with scalp exercise feel free to have a look. chow for now! az! 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member DeDom Posted October 6, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted October 6, 2008 You're just 21, Azza? Puuuuh! Only one month and our hairline-race will start in Ottawa :-) Take care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2008 indeed de dom...should be an exciting year ahead for us...fingers x'ed! 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Eman Posted October 6, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2008 spend at least half hour a day doing those scalp exercises!! We are all following your journey and hope for the best for you!! My initial HT thread: done and done!! Check it out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 6, 2008 thank you eman...ye i am spendin between 20-30 mins each day doin the excersise..hope it helps me in the actual surgery 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MikeTheDane Posted October 19, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted October 19, 2008 Hey man - best of luck with your 2nd ht - i too am having my 2nd ht shortly, 1?? months, this time with Dr. Devroye of belgium, for what i hope can be 3k grafts, for a total of 4.5k. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 11/04-07 - 800-1600 ish grafts - danish clinic - poor results 12/02-08 - 2764 grafts - Dr. Devroye - good result but needs hairline density 03/12-10 - 1429 grafts - Dr. Mohmand - result pending Feel free to visit my picture thread My Hair Transplant Photos - Surgery with Dr. Devroye Young lads below 25 unite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member azza786 Posted October 19, 2008 Author Senior Member Share Posted October 19, 2008 hey mike, thanks...just eagerly awaiting what is to come in the next couple of weeks. gd luck 2 u as well 3608 grafts with dr h.rahal, june 2007 1623 grafts- dr h. rahal, november 2008 total- 5231 grafts My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted April 19, 2012 Senior Member Share Posted April 19, 2012 Hey azza, do you still check the forums? 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member rev3 Posted March 4, 2013 Senior Member Share Posted March 4, 2013 yes guyz, you may be alarmed at me having a transplant at such a young age. but i have been really patient for the last 4 years when it all began and did my research. i had a strip surgery with dr rahal with 3608 grafts and density of 70fu/cm2 at hairline, reducing the density the further back the grafts were placed. in all honesty, the surgery went really good, im 4 days post-op, things are looking good. im kinda glad i chose the doctor i did and didnt fell a sucker with doctors back home in the UK please have a look at my weblog and let me know what you think. i will keep you guyz posted so theres more to come! this result was 70fu/cm2 at the hairline? do you think docs lie about these figures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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