JTB Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I am pretty bald but have a thick donor area. I was told by my surgeon that I could get 1000 graphs per session. I told my surgeon that I saw pictures on the internet of people who received 2000 to 3000 graphs. He told me that his graphs included more then one hair. Does this sound reasonable? JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 I am pretty bald but have a thick donor area. I was told by my surgeon that I could get 1000 graphs per session. I told my surgeon that I saw pictures on the internet of people who received 2000 to 3000 graphs. He told me that his graphs included more then one hair. Does this sound reasonable? JTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Jotronic Posted June 28, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 28, 2006 JTB, So he's saying his 1000 were equal to or better than 3000? Doubtful. You're most likely speaking with a doctor that still utilizes mini/micro grafting. Most of the patients you are referencing have had follicular unit grafting where the grafts are simply the bundles of hair as they grow naturally in the scalp, in groupings of 1 to 4 hairs (average 2.3 per bundle). This doctor, using mini/micros, determines the size of the grafts by including multiple bundles in each graft. Errr, no. Not good. Besides, you should get as much as possible (toward your goals) in one session or two max instead of several. Less downtime, less scarring, less expensive, better growth. Glad you asked the question. Now ask more so you can get a handle on what a great hair transplant doctor can do for you. Oh, and welcome to the forums. The Truth is in The Results Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member troy Posted June 29, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2006 if you are pretty bald and have a long way to go, then 1000 is way to small. Joe is right you want to get there faster with less downtime. So I would scratch that doc of your list. My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member irish homer Posted June 29, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by JTB:I am pretty bald but have a thick donor area. I was told by my surgeon that I could get 1000 graphs per session. I told my surgeon that I saw pictures on the internet of people who received 2000 to 3000 graphs. He told me that his graphs included more then one hair. Does this sound reasonable? short answer is NO, it doesn't sound reasonable.It sounds like the advice i got from a doc that just wasn't up to the standard of the top doc's mentioned on this site. do plenty of research and be prepared to travel to get the best results from the best doc's. HT2 2570 grafts Dr Feller HT 2350 grafts Dr Epstein Finax 1mg per day nizoral 2% 3/week MSM 3000 mg / day TOTAL GRAFTS 4920 http://hair-restoration-info.com/eve/forums?a=albumtopic&TOPIC_OID=6751014913&f=2566060861 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JakeVig Posted June 29, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by JTB:I am pretty bald but have a thick donor area. I was told by my surgeon that I could get 1000 graphs per session. I told my surgeon that I saw pictures on the internet of people who received 2000 to 3000 graphs. He told me that his graphs included more then one hair. Does this sound reasonable? JTB That sounds like a horror story waiting to happen!!! If you want good (read: undetectable) results, you want nothing other than FUT/FUE from a top doctor. Your lucky you found this website JTB. Research is your friend! 1344 grafts with Ron Shapiro - June 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FacelessMan Posted June 29, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hmmm... I'll share this...I asked Dr. Feller (before my 4200-graft job) about the amount of grafts possible, and mentioned that I'd heard much smaller recommendations for my own scalp (1600-1800 grafts) in prior consultations. He was emphatic and confident that the amount he initially suggested for me -- which was 3000; we upped it later on -- was not only entirely possible, but the only worthwhile choice. In my case, I had a Norwood 3v-or-so situation combined with an "ideal" (thick as hell) donor area. He also thought that one reason why other doctors aim low may be that they can't do larger sessions. My point being...I'd recommend that you try other doctors with megassession street cred -- Faller and H&W, among others -- and get their opinion of what your head and donor area will buy you. My opinion going into my own procedure was, I want the biggest possible yield in one shot, partly because I want to see a big difference when it grows and also because, having spent the last 2 weeks healing from this, and wearing a cap every day because of my funky hairstyle , I don't really want to do this more than I need to! Hope this is of use to you...feel free to post photos if you like; there are plenty of guys here who know far more about this than I. Benjamin My Blog -- Hair Transplant with Dr. Feller My Personal Hair Transplant Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted June 29, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by JTB:I am pretty bald but have a thick donor area. I was told by my surgeon that I could get 1000 graphs per session. I told my surgeon that I saw pictures on the internet of people who received 2000 to 3000 graphs. He told me that his graphs included more then one hair. Does this sound reasonable? JTB As many others have shared.............NO, this doesn't sound reasonable. I won't repeat what other posters have already shared regarding this. I will advise you to do some serious research on this site using the find feature, and ask you to start consulting with some of the Docs who are members of the Coalition and can be viewed on this link. You said you're pretty bald...............how do you rank on the Norwood scale? What is your age? Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JakeVig Posted June 30, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 30, 2006 Originally posted by Michaellovesnyc:Your Doctor is seriously misleading you and I detect a trace of dishonesty. ALL grafts, regardless of surgeon, include between 1-4 hairs on each graft. 1000 is nothing. I was not bald by a long shot and I got 2750 grafts. Many doctors suggested 2 treatments of 1250 each. Dr. Feller of Great Neck did it all in a single operation. TRUST ME; you want to MINIMIZE the number of procedures. It is less painful, less expensive and you will get faster results with less hair shock loss. Get as many done at first as you can; MINIMUM 3000 if you are really bald, if not 4500 if possible. Where did you hear that you get less shockloss with a fewer no of procedures? I was told it was the other way around, less grafts, less trauma, less shock loss. 1344 grafts with Ron Shapiro - June 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hoose Posted June 30, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted June 30, 2006 Hey Michaellovesnyc, I was wondering if you had any pre and post op pictures you could post. You said you weren't "bald by a long shot." What Norwood were you. Just curious so I can see what 2750 grafts would look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gorpy Posted July 1, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted July 1, 2006 Jotronic is correct. The top doctors today perform pure Follicular unit transplantation. Hair grows naturally in what are called Follicular Units, which consist of 1 to 4 hairs. So transplanting them just as they occur in nature gives the most natural look. I received 2700 follicular units, which averaged 2.3 hairs per unit. Therefore I received approximately 6200 hairs. ____________ 2700 Total Grafts w/ Keene 9/28/05 663 one's = 663 1116 two's = 2232 721 three's = 2163 200 four's = 800 Hair Count = 5858 1000 Total Grafts w/Keene 2/08/07 Mostly combined FU's for 2600+ hairs My Photo Album See me at Dr. Keene's Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member EastCoast Posted July 11, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted July 11, 2006 A very disreputable Doctor quoted me 800 grafts(low ball). Within 4 years I had 5,400 done. He stole 4 years of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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