Regular Member Lon Posted March 27, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted March 27, 2007 I was wondering if there is any way to know for sure that you are getting as many grafts as you are getting charged for in a large session? It seems like with your head numb and on valium that you could never count how many they are really doing..and with shock loss after the procedure ..i don't think you could ever prove that you got cheated some...or that they "accidently miscounted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lon Posted March 27, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 27, 2007 I was wondering if there is any way to know for sure that you are getting as many grafts as you are getting charged for in a large session? It seems like with your head numb and on valium that you could never count how many they are really doing..and with shock loss after the procedure ..i don't think you could ever prove that you got cheated some...or that they "accidently miscounted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member pushing 40 Posted March 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2007 Any reputable doctor would not conciously over charge for grafts. A hair mill like Bosley maybe, but not a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted March 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2007 I concur, Pushing 40! In reality, the only way you'll know for sure is to count them yourself . This is why the ethics and reputation of the clinic are so important when considering a HT. Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted March 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi Good thead. This also can be relavent when we talk about splitting FU's..Do you get charged for the FU's or the splits? Same amount of hairs but BIGGER price .. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Lon, The only way to know for sure or at least close to it, is by studying and becoming very familiar with the clinic you are thinking about going to. That way, you can be comfortable enough to trust them by the time you go in for surgery. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted March 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 27, 2007 Great question, I know my second HT with Elliott and True, Dr Halford had an assistant count with a clicker each time he made an incision. It made me feel better knowing they had some procedure in place but honestly, you are at the mercy of the doctor/clinic and hope they are on the up and up. I trust most are. NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted March 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 Interesting question--- first and foremost, I truly believe if you have to ask those questions while considering a doc or clinic, then that answers the question, IMO. Secondly there seems to be two schools of thought here, with regards to better or best clinics. 1. Completely informed patient, desires each and every detail of each surgery, asks pertinent questions, not afraid or intimidated to ask about staff, placement, distribution, hairline design, etc... Often tends to be a very exacting patient. 2. Completely informed patient, who knows as much as anyone, but once a decision is reached leaves most of the technical aspect to the chosen Doc and is not as concerned with all of the "stats." Both are results driven, but go about it differently. There is sadly the 3rd guy who looks in the Yellow Pages for the local HT quack.... I hope as time goes on, this type of patient lessens to a greater degree. BTW--- How are you looking these days Lon? Would like to see some pics buddy!!! Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted March 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hi Dr True uses a tape recorder and speaks into it after every hundred to keep track.. Very smart and good way to keep the patient informed JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lon Posted March 28, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 Well I ask that because I have learned not to trust anyone when it comes to money. People are in this business to make money. Not to be Noble.the more money..the better..and most all Look and sound professional. You just have to take that chance I guess...I honestly believe people are cheated out of grafts more than we suspect..just being honest. Anyways..I had my second HT(Feb 22nd) and will post my results in 6 months.I had 2400 grafts done this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member LaGrange Posted March 28, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 Lon When I got mt my HT last week I used the counter for Dr.Hasson as he punched the holes..Cheers http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/blog/home-page.asp?WebID=170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hairobservator Posted March 28, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 ..the hairtech of Villnow MD was counting the incisions. After that he was counting the fuegrafts when he was working with his fuedriller from the olddays! Prr, prr, prr, prr, prr 10 fuegrafts in less then 10 seconds!!!!!!! A FUE7000 is possible in one day? Greatings Hairobservator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tha Joe Posted March 28, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 7000 FUE's in one day? 1st HT 1-5-05 - 1894 FUT's Dr. Glenn Charles 2nd HT 12-18-06 - 1542 FUT's Dr. Glenn Charles Total: 3436 FUT's Current Protocol: Propecia Daily, Laser Therapy EOD 20 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member YoungGuy Posted March 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 Originally posted by Lon:I had my second HT(Feb 22nd) and will post my results in 6 months.I had 2400 grafts done this time. ...or so you think. MUHAHAHAHA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Orion Posted March 28, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 you could count the holes being punched but how do you know everyone of them is going to be filled? To me it would make more sense to count everytime the technician places a FU/hair. My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted March 28, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted March 28, 2007 Guys let's be real. Anyone who says they count them themselves while being operated is crazy. You are sedated,can't see, and how the hell will you know exactly? I've had three procedures and it would be almost impossible to count. Also Orion brings up a good point. No way to tell what is planted. It has to be trust . JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member newhairguy Posted April 1, 2007 Regular Member Share Posted April 1, 2007 Yeah, i was real concerned about this myself. I still am. I realize its a trust issue with the doc but no matter what, i will be wary on this issue... video would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MrJobi Posted April 2, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hi There has to be a level of trust now. Go to a good doctor in the coalition and I'm sure they will have some sort of system.. JOBI 1417 FUT - Dr. True 1476 FUT - Dr. True 2124 FUT - Dr. True 604 FUE - Dr. True My views are based on my personal experiences, research and objective observations. I am not a doctor. Total - 5621 FU's uncut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Lon Posted April 4, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted April 4, 2007 Just curious, I think the most common cut from the donar area is 1 cm from ear to ear. For a person with average density, about how many grafts would that yeild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted April 4, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted April 4, 2007 Should be about 20-25 cm long Average density is about 85fu's cm. Low end---1700 grafts High end---2200 grafts Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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