Regular Member Dizzy Posted September 22, 2006 Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi guys! Im 2.5 month post HT and im frustrated. It looks terrible, I was promise density but its not dense at all. Before the HT i could have normal hair style without any body thinking im getting bold. Now I have to hide the area, the styling in the morning takes way more time than before and the results are way worse. What is youre opinion? Will I need more HT to get a "normal" look? Im starting to regret I ever did HT..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted September 22, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi guys! Im 2.5 month post HT and im frustrated. It looks terrible, I was promise density but its not dense at all. Before the HT i could have normal hair style without any body thinking im getting bold. Now I have to hide the area, the styling in the morning takes way more time than before and the results are way worse. What is youre opinion? Will I need more HT to get a "normal" look? Im starting to regret I ever did HT..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nikkop23 Posted September 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Give us more details about your work. Doctor, graft count, hair count, etc. But your question seems really naive--don't you know that at 2.5 months you won't see any results yet? You probably look worse b/c you experienced some temporary shock loss of the native hairs in the transplanted area. It's WAY too early for you to be concerned about growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted September 22, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 well It was performed in Scandinavia (its were im from). Some rumors say its were Bruce Willis did his HT. I dont know how many grafts i got, all I remember is that i was suppost to get 120-130 hairs or grafts dont know the difference per cm2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member tumbleweed Posted September 22, 2006 Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Way too early yet...give it at the very least 6 months. This is actually when you head should look the worst if you were to go by the "textbook". Do some research on this site and you'll get the idea of what to expect in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member dhuge67 Posted September 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Originally posted by Dizzy:well It was performed in Scandinavia (its were im from). Some rumors say its were Bruce Willis did his HT. I dont know how many grafts i got, all I remember is that i was suppost to get 120-130 hairs or grafts dont know the difference per cm2. Try applying some Dermmatch to it, it might really help in your case. I think it would actually make your head of hair look absolutely normal. 1,614 with Dr. Pistone on 2/3/06 in Marlton, NJ. As long as the moon shall rise As long as the rivers flow As long as the sun shall shine And the grass will grow Let me listen, I will learn to speak The old language Yes, I yearn to bathe in blue skies And fall apart from the world of machines Regain my feet and my pounding heart My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nikkop23 Posted September 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Yeah, I would do more research if I were you. If you don't know what a graft is o.r how many grafts you got, and believe that Bruce Willis would go to Scandinavia for a HT (LOL), you should educate yourself more about this whole process. I hope it turns out well for you, but given your state of knowledge you're vulnerable to be misled. The measurement you've given of 120-130 hairs/sq. is a meaningless unit. You should know how many grafts per sq. cm. you received and how many grafts total were transplanted. Otherwise, what did you pay for? Best of luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted September 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 At 2.5 months, MAYBE 10 to 15% of the hair has started to grow. Usually this starts at month 3 and continues for another 6 to 8 months. You may be experiencing shockloss in and around the transplanted areas, so take a breath and relax. Given the outline of hair in the transplanted region, I would say that you did not have a very large session, and should anything be amiss, you can fly over the pond to see a Doc in the US/Canada. Again, 2.5 months is way to early to start stressing out. Relax and wait another 3 to 4 months, as that will tell a better story. Cheers! Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted September 22, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Originally posted by nikkop23: and believe that Bruce Willis would go to Scandinavia for a HT (LOL), Well if you dont belevie me i give you a link to one of the biggest news paper in Scandinavia. Its not in english but i guess you can get the point from the pictures! http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/halsa/story/0,2789,557871,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted September 22, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 I have one more question, is it possible that it looks better in real life than on those picture i sent? Cuz I was fealling frustrated before i took them , but after seeing them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 It can depending on the lighting. There was a great post on the site about photographing you hair, try clicking the find button and doing a search. It was really informative. Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted September 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 22, 2006 Dizzy, I just had an HT, and I'm very sypathetic to your concerns, but you don't seem to know what you got in terms of an HT, and your doctor doesn't seem to have appropriately set your expectations. You've gotten a lot of good advice here, but shouldn't you also accidentally contact your doctor and ask him too? Best of luck, mark h My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted September 23, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2006 Dizzy, If I were you........................I'd contact the HT Doc and try to find the number of grafts you received so you can get a better idea of what to expect. At 2.5 months, you still have tons of growth left to come but, if you only got 1000-1500 grafts your density won't be good. Given the area you were trying to cover, I'd guess 2500 grafts at a minimum for dense appearance, maybe 3000. Until you know what you received, it's really pure guesswork on the outcome. At any rate, you just have to wait it out. Give it until 6-7 months and see what it looks like. You may want to try a concealer like dermmatch, as recommended earlier, after another month or so of growth you can probably make it work. Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JakeVig Posted September 23, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted September 23, 2006 your hairline looks to low in my opinion. At 23 with your degree of hairloss I would have not brought the hairline down at all and settled for a denser windows peak. Although on a plus side 2.5 months is not that long in terms of what to expect with HT growth. Although to have a good idea of what to expect I would go back to your doc and request how many grafts you got as well as how dense the packing was. 1344 grafts with Ron Shapiro - June 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Hello Dizzy and welcome to the forums. It's way too early to tell what your final result will be yet man. Most people don't even have new hair growth until about 3 months post op though I'm like you, I tend to start around 2.5 months post op. For comparision (though my hair loss pattern is different than yours), feel free to click on the Dr. True or Dr. Katz link below to see where I was at 2.5 months verses 6 months. It's night and day, apples and oranges. At 2.5 months, I was feeling just like you were...but this stage is very normal, typically referred to as the doldrums (spelling) or awkward stage. Don't be discouraged. Additional advice: At this point, you already had an HT. With no disrespect, I would have recommended to you that you did more research before taking the plunge. But at this point, we must move forward. First thing, find out how many grafts (grafts are different than hair counts) you received. You might also want to find out approximately how many 1 hair, 2 hair, 3 hair, and 4 hair follicular units were extracted and used. Each of these units is considered 1 graft. So it's easy to say that the number of hairs extracted could easily double the number of grafts extracted. For consolation purposes, my next piece of advice is look at people's before/after pictures and you should find that nobody has good results at 2.5 months. Most people start to grow hairs around 3 months and by about 6-8 months people start looking pretty good, but the maximum result is typically about 1 year after surgery. I hope this helps. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4kashun Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Yes Dizzy. Too soon to tell!! But you are getting growth so that is a good thing! Shockloss is a part of this procedure too!! My recommendation. Clip you hair a little lower for the next few months so it is more even. Month 3 real growth starts. Month 6-8 you will know what you will look like for life so grow your hair out again then to see. Hang in there! You made the right decision!! Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted October 15, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 15, 2006 Thank you guys for all the kind words! I realy hope density will improve during next months. Its been 13 weeks now and I really cant see any big difference between now and the date when I took those pictures. But than again hopefully its to soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted November 9, 2006 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 9, 2006 I think i finaly figured out how much hair I got implanted! Its somewere between 2500 and 3000 hair follicles. Im gonne find out exactly in december. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Dizzy, Another month and a half has passed since your last post before this one. Any updated pictures you can share with us? Has there been any change? 2.5 month was simply not enough time to determine any growth as you've been told above. 4 months isn't that much better...but if you are an early starter, there could be some differences from then. Keep us posted! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted February 9, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 9, 2007 Hi guys 7 month update.... As you see there is some improvment since my last post, but onestly.....its still dont look to good....Im thinking about a new operation but waisting another year on regrowth...... I dont know.....what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member John_in_NC Posted February 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted February 9, 2007 >> what do you guys think? you're too impatient IMO. You started this at just 2.5 months. Chill.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HK500 Posted February 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted February 9, 2007 Hi Dizzy, I just read this thread from the beginning for the first time. It's obvious you did not do enough research before going in but don't feel bad I did exactly the same thing ... I only found this forum almost two years after my first HT. Your before pictures are not very good since we do not see your back (donor area) and your crown. For the best way to take pictures follow this link and click on taking pictures: www.hairtransplantmentor.com Your results look fine so far, you won't see the final results until one year has passed for some it's more like 18 months, so hold up any decisions until then. I am guessing your situation is very similar to mine, check my hair blog. From your pictures, you look like you could be a Norwood 3, I can't see your crown though. Questions: Are you on Finasteride? How many FU's was your HT? Breakdown of single and multiple FU's? Your clinic should have all your records. Ask as many questions as you need, we are here to help you. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Siporin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Dizzy Posted February 9, 2007 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 9, 2007 HK500 1.I dont take any drugs. 2. It waws not fue but strip, i think i mention the exact number of graft before, cant really remeber now. 3. I dont really know what you mean. Theres no problem with my crown, the only areas affected are the crown areas. Youre right I dident do enough research but anyhow, im from scandinavia. I took the best clinic there, flying out to US would cost much more I guess. For my operation I paid around 4.500 dollars. Im gonne take some pictures with dry hair tommorow. Take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Dizzy, At 7 months post op, you are not at the final stage yet. I advise you to hold off full evaluation until at least 12 months, if not 18 months. At that point, consider whether or not you want to get another HT done. IMO, and maybe it's just me, but I think the results so far look pretty darn good. Perhaps your expectations are too high? No HT will block light from coming in, in it's entirety, and some doctors aren't willing to dense pack too closely in a single session, which may also account for the grafts being slightly further apart. But certain angles and lighting look better than others...and that's going to be the nature of almost any HT. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted February 9, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted February 9, 2007 Dizzy, Here's what I see......................the quality of the HT really looks pretty decent. The one pic that I can actually evaluate the hairline fairly closely I think it looks pretty good. From the number of hairs you're guessing you received, 2500-3000hairs, at an avg. of 2.2 hairs per graft, you probably received anywhere from 1136-1363 grafts. IMO for this number of grafts your density for the area covered is very good. Another point, it is very difficult to make any HT hair look good wet or gelled......it's just too difficult to get the kind of density necessary to pull that off. You may consider going with the dry look. One other point I will make is this...............you're 23 years old and need to consider that if you've lost this much hair at your age, you're very possibly going to lose a great deal more before it's over with. If you're not taking Propecia (Finasteride) or using Minoxidil, I STRONGLY urge you to reconsider. They are the only thing proven to help you stave off further loss in the future and may help you hang on to what you have. Lastly, I believe Bill has a good point............you may have your expectations a little too high as to what can be achieved with any HT. I hope you don't take offense to any of my comments...........they are certainly meant to help. I would advise you to give this HT at least one year before a final evaluation. Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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