jonjon71 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Hello everyone -- This is my first posting, and I'm hoping you guys can give me some guidance. I'm 35 years old, and my hair has started thinning notably over the last three months. The hairline is starting to move back pretty fast, and I am not too happy. My dermatologist gave me a prescription for Propecia, but I have very mixed feelings about using it. Prostate cancer runs in my family, and there's a high probability that I will get it. Although Propecia/Proscar is thought to reduce the overall risk of prostate cancer, it actually increases the risk of developing a high-grade prostate cancer in those people who go on to get the disease. I do not want to take this risk. I see all sorts of reports (good and bad) about supplements like Procerin, Follicare, Hair Genesis, etc., and I don't know what to believe. Are there any other options when Propecia is not possible? Any advice will be most appreciated! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mark H Posted October 3, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 3, 2006 The dosage of Propecia for hair loss is about 1/4 to 1/5th that of its earlier usage as a prostate shrinker. What is more, there is evidence that Propecia stays in your system up to 72 hours, so that you can actually take the 1mg dose every 3 days and get a similar effect to taking it everyday. Don't expect the Propecia folks to alter their dosage based on that more recent finding, but it is something you can take advantage of to minimize your exposure and maximize your gain. Talk to your doctor about it. I was taking it every three days, but its easy to forget a rotating schedule like that, so 6 weeks in I've decided that since there are no apparent side effects I take it Tues, Fri, Sun, which is every other day, and on one day a week its a 3 day stretch. Avodart may prove to be a more powerful hair restorer, but it isn't approved for that use yet, and of course as a more powerful medicine may have a greater risk for you. I know nothing about the treatments you mentioned except that at present Monoxidil, and Propecia (containing Fin.) are the only two treatments for hair loss (medicine-wise)...period. Everything else is either bunk, or in the case of Avodart unproven. mark h My Hair Loss Weblog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member nobuzz4me Posted October 22, 2006 Senior Member Share Posted October 22, 2006 Jon Jon, I think some guys use Saw Palmetto which you can find at GNC stores. It is a natural DHT blocker. I have not used it and do not know of any side effects. Propecia is working well for me so far but I have only been on it a few weeks and it will take months to really know if it has any effect or stops the progression. Your hair is not worth the risk of a deadly cancer. Stay alive and bald if you have to! NoBuzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Jonjon71, While I can't really comment on the prostate cancer issue, you have to realize that propecia does not help with the hairline area. It only helps reduce hairloss in the crown area. I have been taking Propecia for over 9 years now and so far no problems. I'm now 37 and my hairline is also beginnig to recede, but I have a healthy amount of hair in my crown. More than enough if I decide to restore my hairline with hair transplantation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member giants Posted September 20, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted September 20, 2007 While I can't really comment on the prostate cancer issue, you have to realize that propecia does not help with the hairline Im going to disagree with you on this point. Propecia effects the scalp equally. It blocks DHT so it cant reach the scalp. It doesnt just block to the crown region. JonJon, This is a tough one. You are correct that although it can sometimes reduce prostate cancer it can also give you the worst kind. Saw palmetto nor all the rest of the alternatives you listed will give you any results. Id suggest at the very least to start taking rogaine 5% and nizoral shampoo as both can be an effective way to slow down hair loss. Consulting you doctor is a good idea, and whenever decision you do make sure your 100% comited to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rick055 Posted December 26, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 26, 2007 Which brings up another interesting question. If my crown is 50% gone and propecia is only proven to work in the crown, do I even bother taking it? Yes, I would want to save the hair that's there, but is it worth the possible sides to maintain a small amount of hair? 1.25 mg finasteride EOD Rogaine Foam 5% QD am Kirkland minoxidil 5% QD pm Nizoral Q2W American Crew Revitalize Shampoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member notgoing2gobald Posted December 27, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted December 27, 2007 Jonjon, the possibility of saving some hair is in no way the risk of cancer. I have never heard of this before. How does a drug that was intended to prevent prostate cancer result in developing a high grade cancer in those who end up getting it? Is this why it was never used for prostate cancer? Rick055, withstanding the cancer issues-if prostate cancer does not run in your family- I would say that if you are willing to take the possible known risks of propecia (I did not know about the prostate cancer one and that is certainly a deterrent) then yes. I have not tried it yet and Im still on the fence. I might. But, I would like to give it a try AFTER I hear an explanation for this prostate cancer issue, because other than that all of the side effects are assumed to subside once use is discontinued... But now I really want to hear about the prostate cancer issue as that is much more serious then the other *temporary* side effects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oram Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Curly hair is every junior high girl's worst enemy! It seems like no matter what curly hair care products she uses, those curls are out of control! Curly hair, AdsSpy: 26 sites by this AdSense ID whether it be short curly hair or long, can either be a blessing, or a curse, depending on how it is treated!. If you have curly hair, you know that there is no point in fighting it! Go with the curl, and learn how to make your naturally curly hair beautiful with these hair tips for curly hair! The biggest problem with curly hair is frizz. Curly hair that is over worked and over styled will frizz, and lack life. Also, curls can get out of control easily. It is important to use the right curly hair products to control these two problems.Rather than fighting with your curly hair, learn how to work with it to make yourself beautiful. With these curly hair tips, you can take care of any style through proper naturally curly hair care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 23 years old Posted May 25, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted May 25, 2008 I tried Propecia for about 9 months and it did work...It worked wonders...I stopped losing thick hairs, I stopped losing thin hairs...BUT ALL THE WHILE, I HAD LOST MY ENTIRE SEX DRIVE....100% gone...I started not even feeling like a guy any more...I stopped checking out woman, and even wound up impotent when I tried a sexual encounter....I dont know if these side effects are 100% but I know they are VERY commen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angleena-Smith Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Most of the people they experience some loss of the hair as they age. The result can be a partial or total baldness. The men are much more prone who the women to the baldness and the loss of hair as they age. The masculine baldness produces a loss of hair in a very characteristic pattern that affects the entrances and to the "ceiling of the head". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hawk Posted August 13, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted August 13, 2008 My friend who had been on Propecia for years complains of sudden/massive hair loss after he discontinued it. So which is the next best alternative? 5700 Grafts, Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Rick055 Posted August 14, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted August 14, 2008 Originally posted by hawk:My friend who had been on Propecia for years complains of sudden/massive hair loss after he discontinued it. So which is the next best alternative? uhhh...not discontinuing it? 1.25 mg finasteride EOD Rogaine Foam 5% QD am Kirkland minoxidil 5% QD pm Nizoral Q2W American Crew Revitalize Shampoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Blond Posted August 22, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted August 22, 2008 Quote 'Although Propecia/Proscar is thought to reduce the overall risk of prostate cancer, it actually increases the risk of developing a high-grade prostate cancer in those people who go on to get the diseas' --------------------------------------------- Hi jonjon71, This link has not really been determined! If you look at the research properly you can see that they did not account for the fact that detection of high grade prostate cancer is aided by finasteride treatment as it shrinks the prostate. We still do not know if there is a link!? Some recent reviews claiming no link.... http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/results/finasteride0907 http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/576433 Regards, Blondie Blond. ----------------------------- PhD (Experimental and Clinical medicine) 1.25mg Finasteride Minoxidil 5% (EOD) Nizoral 1% (x3/week) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Flavio Posted December 24, 2008 Regular Member Share Posted December 24, 2008 Originally posted by giants:[...] Propecia effects the scalp equally. It blocks DHT so it cant reach the scalp. It doesnt just block to the crown region. [...] Absolutely. In my case, Propecia saved the hairline as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member blowdry Posted December 29, 2008 Senior Member Share Posted December 29, 2008 http://www.mayoclinic.com/heal..._patient-sawpalmetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamajake Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I seen something on youtube about a new cure using mice to grow hair. is possible that it works on humans anyone know anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anwayne Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Originally posted by jonjon71:Hello everyone -- This is my first posting, and I'm hoping you guys can give me some guidance. I'm 35 years old, and my hair has started thinning notably over the last three months. The hairline is starting to move back pretty fast, and I am not too happy. My dermatologist gave me a prescription for Propecia, but I have very mixed feelings about using it. Prostate cancer runs in my family, and there's a high probability that I will get it. Although Propecia/Proscar is thought to reduce the overall risk of prostate cancer, it actually increases the risk of developing a high-grade prostate cancer in those people who go on to get the disease. I do not want to take this risk. I see all sorts of reports (good and bad) about supplements like Procerin, Follicare, Hair Genesis, etc., and I don't know what to believe. Are there any other options when Propecia is not possible? Any advice will be most appreciated! Thanks! I can feel your pain. I'm also 35 and I don't like the side effects they give also. I don't want to get in trouble here but I have been using a product from this website and I have seen nice results with it. Take a look here www.provillushairgrow.com Its a all natrual hair product so it will not have all the bad side effects. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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