Senior Member balody Posted May 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2007 hi,thought id stick some new photos on(including i day post 2nd op).theres also some new befores and i thought id show some pics of the hotel i was put up in(v impressed!) 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 19, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2007 hi,thought id stick some new photos on(including i day post 2nd op).theres also some new befores and i thought id show some pics of the hotel i was put up in(v impressed!) 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NervousNelly Posted May 19, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 19, 2007 Balady, Could you provide details of the doctor and how many Fu that you received. Are you looking for feedback of the results or planning another procedure? Thanks NN NN Dr.Cole,1989. ??graftcount Dr. Ron Shapiro. Aug., 2007 Total graft count 2862 Total hairs 5495 1hairs--916 2hairs--1349 3hairs--507 4hairs--90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 balody, Thanks for osting your pictures. I know these are repeat questions, but I don't think you answered them yet: 1. How many grafts/hairs did you receive? 2. When did you have your surgery done? 3. If in your research, you found all negative posts about Dr. Farjo, why did you decide to go to him? Without knowing how many grafts you received, I think your results in the front look pretty good. What are your goals for future work? Keep us posted. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 20, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 20, 2007 hi nervous and Bill.the doctor is dr bessam farjo in manchester he also holds consultations in london.i am waiting on mick mchughes for exact amount of grafts but somewhere inthe 2000 range.i do plan on a second proceedure but at the moment im staring redundancy in the face so ill have to wait.im not looking for feedback as i am satisfied with results so far.Bill i had the surgery feb 15 2006.as i said in an earlier post idid a lot of research and the negative feedback on farjo seemed unfounded.as i had actually seen his work on tv this was good enough for me.hope this answers some of your questions. 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 balody, We'll look forward for an update on the number of grafts/hairs. Thanks for sharing your pictures. I suppose I do wonder why in your case, Dr. Farjo only opted for a 2000ish session, when it seems like you could have benefited from a larger megasession to go further back. I'd be curious to find out more specifics of your case and as to why his choice was for a smaller session. I, however, am glad you are satisfied. Bill Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted May 22, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 22, 2007 balody- I look forward to getting the particulars on your surgery...............it does look like around 2000 grafts. Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick from Farjo Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Bill and Hairbank Dr Farjo's recommendations re numbers of course depend on a number of factors,patients age, future hair loss potential,,area,patient requirements, scalp laxity etc etc. Balody is still a young man and we don't and won't take chances. 2381 FUT 321 (S) 1324 (D) Hope that helps. Mick Patient coordinator for Dr. Bessam Farjo who is an esteemed member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick from Farjo Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 MISSED A BIT 2381 FUT 321 (s) 1324 (D) 736 (3+4) Patient coordinator for Dr. Bessam Farjo who is an esteemed member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 23, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 23, 2007 cheers mick.phew!for a moment i thought id lost 700 somewhere. 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Mick, I can certainly understand planning conservatively in the event of future loss, however, my question is... Whereas I can certainly understand this approach when it comes to density, why not a larger session for coverage of the existing balding area? Regardless of whether or not balody loses more hair, the existing bald area will still be bald...so why not maximize the session size for the sake of coverage? Just my thoughts... Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted May 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 You read my mind Bill................balody appeared to be ripe for a mega-mega session. Any thoughts on this, Mick? Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick from Farjo Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Bill, I had to read your note a couple of times because i wasn't quite sure what you actually meant.We have a pot of hair that will only diminish rather than enlarge as we age.Due to the above points etc do we do more units and diminish the pot or do enough that will satisfy the patients goals and leave plenty of scope for the future.The point is to use the pot wisely and as you know each case is different.I think i would say this is good medicine.I will post a picture of a recent guy with the opposite scenario.There is no right or wrong but one thing i keep noticing as i am out and about is how bald we can become in old age,Those rims seem to be getting lower. I am away now for several days Patient coordinator for Dr. Bessam Farjo who is an esteemed member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted May 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 Balody still has at least another 4000+ grafts left in the back. He should be setting up for another session---- 3000-3500 will make a HUGE difference. Completely understand your analogy Mick--- but if your that worried about Balody here, then he was not a candidate in the first place. 2300 grafts on this patient is completely off-base---- unless he has some laxity issues that are present. Balody has not mentioned it, so I assume this is not the case. He should have done at least 3000 grafts, with the knowledge that he will need an additional 3000 to make this journey worthwhile. The work is fine........ there just isn't enough of it. PS. What is the largest session the Farjo clinic does? Take Care, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted May 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 My sentiments exactly, B spot! I also would be interested to know what the largest session size for Farjo has been? Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PB Posted May 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 I very much doubt that Farjo or any other UK clinic could handle a larger session... 2300 is a mega session for the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 24, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 hi all,firstly i know farjo was cautious as to my age,donor etc,but there were other factors on my part as well.since about age 21 ive been totally shaven and was initially planning to keep my hair very short(2 or 3)after surgery.all iwas after was a hairline,nothing dramatic(i even asked for it to be higher than farjo recommended). i had started using fin and was seeing good results in my crown and sort of looked at it as an"out of sight out of mind"situation.as my hair started to sprout i got quite attached to those little fellas and found myself avoiding the clippers more and more.its now longer than i can ever remember it and i think this shows my crown up a lot more, added to that i stopped fin in november due to sides and the lot fell out within a month.ive now been on dut since january but progress seems slow.the other factor was cost i am a lowly factory worker and if i was to have had a mega mega session hairbank, my wife would have probably divorced me!one step at a time boys,one step at a time. 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hairbank Posted May 24, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 I appreciate your comments about the $$$, balody..........it has been a source of frustration at times for me as well. I think that's something that doesn't get discussed as much as it probably should sometimes, the overall cost of hair restoration. I take it, then, that the 2381 grafts from Farjo was largely due to your request to stay within certain financial parameters, correct? Hairbank 1st HT 1-18-05 - 1200 FUT's 2nd HT 2-15-06 - 3886 FUT's Dr. Wong 3rd HT 4-24-08 - 2415 FUT's Dr. Wong GRAND TOTAL: 7501 GRAFTS current regimen: 1.25mg finasteride every other day My Hair Loss Weblog Disclaimer: I'm not a Doctor (and have never played one on TV ) and have no medical training. Any information I share here is in an effort to help those who don't like hair loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 24, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 24, 2007 partly yes hairbank,added to the advice of mick and dr farjo and also i was a little cautious/nervous ,this can be a life changing thing we do.basically i didnt want to go to manchester looking like homer j and come home jon bon jovi(i wish) 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Mick, Sorry for the ambiguity of my post. Sometimes the right words come...sometimes they don't. At least you understood what I was saying Obviously there are a number of factors to consider when planning for surgery. As Balody said...clearly his financial means were of some concern here. I guess money doesn't grow on trees yet...as far as I know. Hey, maybe the guys researching hair multiplication can do the same with money . But I agree with B Spot... Money aside: I believe there is a time and a place for a conservative approach, however, IMO Balody was a more likely candidate for a megasession due to a greater amount of loss assuming he had the donor laxity and density for it. I'll also add that one can't go wrong with coverage when considering the long term benefit of the patient. That's the point I was trying to make before. Whereas dense packing 4000 grafts in the frontal third may have been the WRONG approach being that he's young and has so much loss and a limited donor supply (unless Balody didn't care about the back at all), going with a larger session and more coverage will not harm anything for the long term even if he loses more hair. He's already bald in those areas. General statement not meant for Farjo clinic directly: The problem with many clinics is that they let their limitations dictate the session size and then claim that it was what was best for the patient. But I TOO would like to know what the largest session size has been for the Farjo clinic. Please understand...I'm not advocating that the clinic who does the largest session necessarily is the best clinic. BUT...I personally feel...if a patient is a good candidate for a larger session (and cleary Balody is by his pictures being a NW5A to a NW6 already), then why do in 3 or 4 sessions what can be accomplished in 1 or 2? I want to add again...for 2300 grafts, his results look great. But clearly, much more is needed to give him the proper coverage he needs. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member the B spot Posted May 25, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 25, 2007 Understand the money aspect Balody--- but if the pricing schedule is consistant with the top docs, there should be a significant drop in price per graft for anythink over 2000. In essence, should you return for another shot of 2300, your actually paying more than you should, in addition to more down time. I also do not like "lowly" factor worker...... your a factory worker my friend, be proud!!!!!! It is honest work and if you approach your work like you handle yourself here, your a damn fine one!!!! Happy Growing my friend, J Go Cubs! 6721 transplanted grafts 13,906 hairs Performed by Dr. Ron Shapiro Dr. Ron Shapiro and Dr. Paul Shapiro are members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 25, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 25, 2007 ah thanks for that mate,you made me feel all warm inside!lol 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill - Seemiller Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I also do not like "lowly" factor worker...... your a factory worker my friend, be proud!!!!!! It is honest work and if you approach your work like you handle yourself here, your a damn fine one!!!! Amen! It doesn't matter what you do for a living...as long as you do it with passion and heart. That's what matters! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member balody Posted May 26, 2007 Author Senior Member Share Posted May 26, 2007 thanks guys,pb just a quick question,you stated earlier that 2381 grafts was probably a mega session for farjo.can i just ask why you only had 2700 into front third when you clearly have loss on top and maybe the crown(there are no rear pics).im not being bitchy i was just wondering why you seemed to join in with the questioning of why farjo didnt do a mega session when you hadnt got one also? 2381 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2201 fut Dr Bessam Farjo 2000+ fut Dr Bessam Farjo My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Bessam Farjo challenge the unchallenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member PB Posted May 26, 2007 Senior Member Share Posted May 26, 2007 My donor density at the sides is below average and average at the back. My scalp laxity is average at best. The hair around my temples and above my ears is too thin so my strip stopped behind my ears. My strip was only 26?? cm long and 1 cm wide. My scalp couldn't have handled a larger strip. 2700 was all I could get. I still have hair in my bridge area and the 2700 in the front 1/3 blended in with the bridge hair to give me 2/3 coverage. My crown area is very thin and the area that could potentially become bald is too large to even attempt to fill with my donor characteristics. I know that Dr Feller has done several 5000+ in one session if the patient has the donor for it. Now that my scalp has had a year and a half to recover plus scalp stretching exercises, I'm going back for all Dr Feller can get. My next one won't be a megasession either for the same reasons. Your 2381 is the largest I have heard about from the UK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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