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On him, I'm saying since he is considering the ink solution, then he should forget the surgery option for now and try temporary ink first. On some patients that are NW7, surgery can work well as long as expectations are realistic. This particular case is not only a NW7, but the head shape appears long so there is more ground to cover and that crown would get little attention, and if any grafts were placed in that crown, little difference would be achieved. If he's going to keep his hair very short post surgery then the lack of density on the sides, where they have dropped, will be apparent. When the hair is grown longer, long enough to be styled, then the sides won't be as noticeable and it might be doable. So, I'm not recommending against surgery completely, just suggesting a third option to his two current considerations.

I'd recommend against either. You are not a NW6, you are a NW7 because your parietal humps are gone and the sides have dropped. Even 5000 grafts would not do much, especially at the length you showed the one photo as being your expected outcome. To raise the sides enough for a natural appearance would be difficult and with the lower density obtained while doing this, it would potentially look unnatural. That, and you cannot get a guarantee that the scarring from FUE will be unnoticeable. With permanent ink, you're stuck. If you don't like it due to bad artistry or bad technique, you have to go through several sessions of expensive and painful laser to remove it and once you do that, the scalp most likely won't be the same as it was before the treatments. The best thing to do in my opinion, if you go the ink route, is to go with the temporary option. There are several clinics in Europe (your profile says you are in Sweden) that offer it now, including one in Belgium and of course Milan, where you can go to the originator, Milena Lardi. This way, with the temporary option, you will at least know if you like the look of ink on your scalp. If you do not, just give it time and it will disappear completely, without turning blue or green.

Ha! Good eye, Spanker. I was in a rush when I put those together. Various hairlines had been drawn in and wiped off so what you saw was the skin reacting. I replaced it with a photo before any hairlines were drawn and wiped off. We don't use local in the normal sense, not with a needle. We have a topical that we can apply to the scalp but we only use it on request as most guys can handle the procedure without any numbing or freezing.

Great to see you on here, Baldeagle. I took the liberty of getting some of your before photos to add to the thread so there is a proper comparison. Thanks for sharing and going full monty!

Hey, no worries. I'm actually grateful for going through the negatives I've had. It made me stronger as a person. Check your pm, please. You can also see more of my history at the top of my signature linked as "Hair Transplant Repair".

I know how you feel about your condition. I was in the same exact spot as you almost twelve years ago. I had two surgeries, two wide scars and 300 mini-grafts with NW6 plus hair loss. I wanted to shave my head but it wasn't the scarring that stopped me. No, it was the hair. I knew that if I shaved my head the "stubble" would be more like tree trunks. Had FUE been more prevalent then I would have had them FUE'd out and called it a day. However, I went the opposite direction and got the hairline lowered and fixed and went on to having a major turn around for the better. In your case, I think there are two solutions. Do like I did or continue down the path you seek, removal. For that I think there is a very good solution for you and it lies in Dulwich, NSW.

With all due respect I have to disagree with the point of this presentation. The type of procedure performed is irrelevant to recipient site creation much less the densities that can be achieved. With properly performed strip, assuming follicular unit transplantation (which by definition requires stereoscopic dissecting microscopes) the grafts are dissected with direct visualization and with experienced techs the grafts can be trimmed as much or as little as necessary. Most FUE clinics take the grafts as they are removed with no further trimming. When you have FUE clinics typically using .75 to .9 mm punches (sometimes 1mm and above), there is no verifiable reason to make the claim that higher densities can be achieved with FUE. I've heard of smaller punches being used but let's not kid ourselves. There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to punch size so if you start going much smaller you're going to extract nothing more than hair shaft particles and mush. The blade cutter that Dr. Hasson invented, and is in use by clinics that use the lateral slit technique, can cut blades to smaller than .6mm. Single hair grafts will usually go into incisions from .6mm to .7mm with multi-hair grafts going into .8mm and .9mm incisions. Here is an image of recipient sites made with custom cut blades, via the lateral slit technique, from a strip procedure. Density achieved was between 65 per cm2 at the back of the placement and 80 per cm2 at the front of the placement...

TCWest, That probably had something to do with it. I knew nothing about lighting back then. It also had something to do with my highlights. Highlights can make hair look fuller as well and overall the lighting was fairly low throughout the video.

Thanks, everyone. HRSP10, I didn't continue to thin. Read what I said on the previous page to Tacolinowest. It should explain it for you...

Nick, Thanks for the comment. Spanker, Thank you for your comment as well. The musician is a friend of mine from the UK. He's damned good:) When watching this video again for the first time in several years I was remembering what it was like to shoot it. I used my webcam for the video and I was able to see myself and when I saw the final "dry off" I remember thinking "Jesus! That is some hair!" It was a lot of fun and was a great time when I started working for the docs. Btw, I've not mentioned it yet but, Congratulations on your new gig with Dr. Konior! You've already been a great asset for him so it only makes sense to take it to the next level. Tacolinowest, At this time I had just grown out from my third procedure so I was not at nearly 9500 grafts like I am now. I was at just over 7500 grafts so I obviously didn't "need" over 9000 grafts. The last procedure, which was three years ago tomorrow I believe, was just for a modification I needed. I've detailed this before but I will again here. With all the work Dr. Wong did for me he never hit the bottom half of my crown. If you were to draw a line across the middle of my crown, left to right, Dr. Wong only worked on the top half as I still had some hair, albeit not much, in the bottom half. Dr. Wong's strategy was that the hair he placed in the top half, in my second and third procedure, would simply "drape" over the bottom half due to gravity thus adding coverage to this thinner area below. He was right and the strategy served me very well for several years. This is the difference between a good doc and a great doc. 7 years later I wanted to change up my hair style to something shorter. I'm getting older and I'm a fan of the show Mad Men so I wanted to have a more conservative style like Don Draper and the other fellas on the show. In doing this, with a shorter hair cut, I knew that the bottom half of my crown would be thinner than the top half so I presented my issue to Dr. Wong, he rolled up his sleeves and we got to work on how to accomplish my goal. It was the perfect icing on the cake and now I'm able to sport short hair cuts with no issues. I'm at 9500 grafts, six surgeries total, two prior to Dr. Wong (not including my guinea pig sessions) and I can rock a #3 buzz cut. Dr. Wong and I calculated that with all of my surgeries, including the two I had before he got a hold of me, I've had about 6cm of scalp removed and you wouldn't even suspect as much looking at my hair. So that, my friend, is why I have nearly 9500 grafts, as a repair patient no less, from Dr. Wong. Yeah, in that video I was very happy but I'm more happy now, which is odd, but I've never forgotten where I started. I'm still grateful to the talents of Dr. Wong and his ability to recognize my potential as a patient. Thank you for your question.

So yesterday marked my ten year anniversary of working for Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong. Thinking about my career I decided to look through some old photos and stumbled across this gem from 2004. I shot this video about nine years ago and I had no idea at the time how video would impact the industry. I did post this online but it got lost in the shuffle of website and forum updates. I'm just glad I saved the original. Is it really the first ever HT video? I don't know but I don't recall seeing any before this one. 2004 was a looong time ago. For 2013 I inserted some of my before pictures, taken before I ever set foot in Hasson & Wong, and added some music so it isn't so boring. Time sure had flown by since I shot this but it's cool to know that my hair ins't much different now, except I don't have highlights:) Now I have to go and shoot a new video like this to show how my hair has held up!!!

In this video I compare the incision size of a custom cut blade to that of a needle. The sizes are not the same as a Choi Implanter but the message is the same. It is true that the tool used is only guided by the hand of the surgeon so each can have good results but when you are looking at the amount of trauma between the two there is no contest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7Zdv6kdtms

You mean this? I used it for a few years back in the day.

This patient presented with NW5 patterned hair loss with diffused density and was in need of as much coverage as possible. He was started on a regimen of Proscar, 5mg quarter tablet daily, in March of 2012. His procedure was eight months later in November 2012 where Dr. Wong and his team moved 4293 grafts in one session. The results shown are ten months post-op with excellent coverage achieved front to back.

Bumping this up. Spaces are filing up surprisingly fast but we've still got some openings left. Click on the link above to register or call 1.800.859.2266. You can also email us at info@hassonandwong.com.

1. The difference is that one is in India, the other is in Belgium. That is where the differences end as they are both simply smoke and mirror tacticians with little to show for their claims. 2. 5000 to 7000 grafts to get a NW6 back to a NW3 or NW2 is not likely but it is also subjective. A true NW2 or 3 has no evidence of loss in the other regions of typical loss. The areas of loss for a NW6 can be covered similarly to a NW3 or NW2 but not to the same density and in fact will be fairly low density. Beard hair can be added but shouldn't be relied upon to get you over the hump. It can help for sure but but there are too few cases documented to feel safe about it's reliability, not to mention the texture differences that may affect the overall cosmetic appearance of the result.

To the OP, you should consult with Dr. Feller. He will discuss your issues with you and he will be brutally honest about your case. To HelpWanted, Transplants to make a hairline with a system behind is very effective but is rarely warranted. We have done this several times but this is the ultimate of commitments as once it's done it cannot necessarily be undone.

We did build the temples some, just not too much;)

Waiting a year is a good idea. What I see in your future, sans meds, is an isolated frontal forelock and aggressive loss behind it so sticking with the meds now is imperative. I think switching to Dut was not such a good idea because, while I understand the wish to restore a hairline, yours is still fairly juvenile and some additional slight recession would not be a bad thing. I think to have hairline work now or any time (from your current state) would potentially be a mistake especially with your diffused pattern of hair loss behind it. By fixing one issue, that really isn't in need of fixing, you are potentially creating more issues that will also have to be fixed and addressed.

Ok, seems like the images are loading now but there may still be issues over the next few hours as the hosting guys finish up their "fix".

Our host provider is having an issue with our server, which the images are loaded on. They'll be accessible shortly.

This patient came from the UK after debating for several years whether or not to have surgical hair restoration. His hair loss was making it difficult for him to socialize with friends and with the public in general. After visiting with Dr. Hasson and myself twice during our visits to the UK the patient finally decided to pull the trigger and come to Vancouver for a procedure. 4120 Grafts were harvested in one procedure and placed throughout the frontal half with the focus being on density.

I am pleased to announce that Dr Wong will be providing free one to one consultations in Central London on Saturday and Sunday 23rd and 24th of November. Dr Wong was the originator of the lateral slit technique. For more information about Dr Wong please visit About Doctor Jerry Wong | Hair Transplant Surgeon - Hasson & Wong If you wish to meet with Dr Wong and the team please contact our UK representative, David Anderson (aka "Garageland") at ukconsultant@hassonandwong.com or UK phone 0757 8164162 asap as spaces are limited and will be on a first come first served basis.

Greatjob, I'll make an announcement once it's ready to go. It won't be on the H&W website, it is a completely new site. The site is basically ready to go and the only thing holding it back is content. I'm about to pull my hair out trying to get clients to allow use of photos and/or video. It is far tougher than getting surgical clients to agree to and it is quite frustrating to say the least. It is progressing however. I am considering going in for a major SMP job myself to show what the thickening can do. I'm reluctant if only because I won't be able to say my result is purely surgical but I think there is enough evidence of just the surgical result to offset this problem. What do you think?

Lucidh, Thank you for the comment but our results are all FUT, not just mainly but completely:)