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How did you get 8300 grafts via fue bro? I’ve never seen or heard of any doctor getting that many with fue alone

He didn’t create a new hairline here, he blasted through that entire front half that was diffused. With it grown out it like that it looks full , you can deff tell it was a big case in my opinion.

Here’s the thing with dr bloxham. I’ve consulted with him In person and over email. Theyre game plan is always to plan for the future. They feel you yield more lifetime grafts when you start with fut, and then move into fue when you can no longer take any more strips. This is how you maximize and utilize every single possible graft. With FUE, you can’t get harvest as many grafts. This is an actual fact tho, even fue clinics say Fut is for more advanced hair loss. As far as the quality of the result fut vs fue, i agree with you. I’ve seen stellar results on both ends. Dr diep for an example, or even your photos that i just looked at (although it looks like you took those pics from a Nokia) lol .. but i think it really comes down to how advanced your pattern may become in the future. I personally am a nw 3 now but fear i could become a nw 6/7, so I’m not sure fue is for me, or To be frank I’m not even sure a hair transplant in general may be for me considering i could have too much “demand” vs supply

What aren’t you impressed by? I think this is a pretty dense result. Maybe i would of broken up the hairline and zig zagged some singles around to make it appear more natural. It looks like the result of a perfect edge up from the barber. Lol. but it looks thick to me. As for grafts per square cm, dr bloxham answers emails no problem. He explains everything clearly. I’m guessing around 40? Then decreasing as it goes further back

I agree man, theres so many over harvested FUE cases. Heres an example of why im 100% going with FUT.. as of two weeks ago, you would think i only needed my frontal hairline and slightly thicken the mid scalp, mayne 2000 grafts. I just recently cut my hair down to a #4 up top and a 2 on the sides (way shorter then i usually do) And now that its shorter ive noticed my entire top appears to be thinning now and even my crown seems like it could "dip" in the future. It looks lighter at the bottom part of the crown. mind you, im sure cutting it that low exaggerates the thinning a little..but i think This is an indicator of an advanced pattern. Imagine i didnt cut my hair short and went with FUE?? They would of harvested all in the area that looks like it could eventually fall out in the future. My advice to everyone is to cut your hair and really see whats going on underneath all that length. lol

H&W put out good results. Consult with Feller and Bloxham in NY as well. They have probably one of the best results ive seen. check out their youtube channel. As far as FUE or FUT, ive heard FUT yeilds more lifetime amount of grafts. FUE is supposedly only good for moderate hairloss, but if your on track to be a nw 6 i would start with fut, get as much as you can that way and then move onto fue, maximizing your donor

I legit just did this myself too. I shaved my hair down to a number 4 and now i notice my entire head looks like a diffused nw 6. With it grown out you’d think i just need hairline work. It’s like an optical illusion and makes no sense. One thing i can say is that Our donor hair and sides are naturally thicker so they could be contributing to an exaggerated thinner appearance. But i relate to your pain. Do we even begin surgery if were destined to be a nw6/7. Some doctors say you can achieve full coverage front to back with 2 large FUT procedures then some FUE after to fill in any gaps... but then i read out there that there’s too much demand and limited supply meaning not enough grafts to treat advanced hair loss patterns. It’s confusing @Melvin-Moderator any thoughts ?

Hey man. I don’t think your crown looking thinner has anything to do with shock loss because dr bloxham only worked in the front third. I’m pretty sure shock loss only Happens in areas where hairs are transplanted too close to native hairs which creates a blood supply issue. The crown seems to be completely separate in your case just my opinion. Did dr bloxham mention anything about the shockloss around the scar ?

So how many total grafts did you have done? How is your coverage / density considering you’re nw 7? im not a nw 5 yet but I’ll get there because i refuse to take anything that will negatively affect my performance in the sack. What’s the point of having hair if you can’t deliver. However, i do feel optimistic about surgery alone once i reach that point. I’ve spoke to many clinics that say it’s possible to have dense frontal third coverage with reasonable coverage in the crown which I’m fine with. And I’ve seen photos of this being done With around 6000 grafts in a nw 5

I have never seen anyone in my life permanently lose the hair in the center of their donor zone where an fut strip is taken. it seems like your an advanced nw 7 and expectations should be a little different. So in your opinion what’s the best result a nw 5 can achieve (grafts, coverage, density)

This is what i was telling @LaserCap you shouldn’t rely so heavily on taking meds for the rest of your life. The main focus should be keeping the donor in best shape possible so you could utilize every graft to obtain maximum coverage if need be.

This is the complete opposite of Dr Bloxham’s philosophy lol.

I do not take propecia for personal reasons, however based on my research the drug simply slows down the process of hair loss and could eventually not work as well (Continued miniaturization after a while, not pillow shedding.) The debate on weather or not this drug is useful long term could go on and on. As for achieving full coverage via surgery alone. Let’s do the math. Let’s take a Nw 5 with limited native hairs left. If he has 6000 total grafts to harvest (most do) and a 200 sq cm surface zone of loss (which is front to back on a nw5). You can either 1. cover 30 grafts per sq cm throughout the whole head. 2. Distribute them where it’s denser in the front, 40 grafts per cm in the hairline zone, 30 mid scalp, 25 in the crown. If you’re referring to people not having the donor for a full set of dense hair like when we were 20, then of course we can all agree. But do you agree that you can Atleast get full coverage with very acceptable density in the front half while compromising density in the crown?

I’ve never heard any professional in the industry claim anyone has less then 5,000 available grafts for harvesting. What does taking meds have to do with if he can extract grafts in the future to address thinning? Are you referring to taking propecia to strengthen donor hair? What happens when someone decides they can no longer tolerate meds, or they stop working. It’s best to design a plan to obtain maximum coverage through surgery alone, without depending on meds.

You run no risk of Losing transplanted hairs if they were taken from the center of the donor via FUT strip. A 22 year old can do a procedure if his pattern calls for it. We all have anywhere between 5-8000 grafts available so this particular person would have enough to address his hairline and then whatever thins in the future

Why wouldnt you move foward with a procedure if you chose not to take medication? Clinics like Feller and Bloxhams objective is to design and transplant without depending on medicine, because genetics always win in the end, and you have enough donor to achieve full coverage front to back.

Hey guys, I was wondering if there were any opinions out there on the topic of transplanting through native hairs that are currently miniaturizing/thinning. I understand they are "on their way out" like most clinics say, but how deep into thinning zones is it wise to transplant? Could you do more harm then good (shock loss)?

It looks like an ingrown hair.

Thanks for the clarification Ed! from your before photos, it looks like you had a decent amount of existing hair in the front half. We’re you given the option of working around it?and Are you experiencing any “shock loss” ?

@karatekid Yea I’ve asked them that, and got different answers every time. Some say you can harvest up to 6-7k grafts and get full coverage (lighter in the crown) for a nw 5/6. I have above average donor quality and others say you absolutely must be on preventative medications to hold onto existing hair because you only have a limited donor supply.. I’m not a interested in medications and would just like to know if it’s possible to avoid 1 of 2 things : 1. Having hair in the front with a bald crown, and 2. Having my native hairs fall out and left with spaced apart transplants.

@Melvin-Moderator I get you can maximize your donor by doing FUT first then polish off with fue. But have you seen a Nw 5/6 have success getting full coverage front to back? I’m cut hair for a living myself and every time i get a customer in my hair that has had a transplant, it’s always nothing in the back and spaced out hairs in the frontal zone. Never seen a good one in person to be honest. This type of stuff makes me second guess starting.

Hey everyone, I, like many others are on here to educate myself & also see results on Hair transplants. Ive had a handful of consultations, in person and via phone. I do know who id be using if and when i decide to get a procedure done however, there are still a few areas that confuse me. My biggest concern is future loss. Alot of clinics like to do the frontal zone first. I fear having the front done and being left with a wide open crown. Essentially having half a head of hair. I have heard clinics say you can obtain "full coverage" in a worst scenario (like a NW 5-6) but how likely is that considering graft availability. Basically, what is the best outcome for someone who is experiencing NW 5 or 6 loss? Is it even worth starting a procedure? Another concern is obviously scarring and chosing FUE or FUT. I have heard opposite opinions from clinics in favor of their respective harvesting stratergy. Fue doctors bash FUT, FUT doctors bash FUE. Some say they do both, but lean towards one or the other. Some say you get more lifelong grafts via FUT, some say you get the same amount regardless of the strategy. Which strategy do you think gets more grafts? Does FUE deplete the donor as much as clinics say? Should i do Fut first then fue? Thanks! J

Hey Edward, Looking forward to seeing your results. Dr Bloxham is awesome. How many grafts were placed into your crown? I was under the impression that Dr.Bloxham typically addresses the front in one session, and the back half of the scalp in a second procedure. Was this explained to you as well?

whats up bro, i have a similar hair type as you. I have a few questions. Im planning on seeing Dr. Bloxham because im also from NY, and his work looks great. Since youve gotten the surgery, would you say the transplanted hairs are completely undetectable and look natural? Also, You dont see the scar at all with a low fade? What guard does your barber use for the hair ontop of the scar? Do you plan on getting a second surgery in the future?