Nebulosity

Looks really good. You already look improved, and now you just need to wait. I'm envious. I wish I had gone to a good doctor.

Hi @abixx,

Not to be too negative, but your donor area looks patchy and overharvested in some areas. I can see a kind of "line" across the bottom of the extraction area, and the far left side is overharvested. The doctor could have extracted a bit lower, without getting into the nape hair. If you're not likely to progress to a NW7, he could have extracted higher up. That way, he could have left your donor area overall denser, and blended the extracted area with the unextracted areas so that no macro irregularities would exist. He also really overextracted from the far left side. It almost looks like he took 70%+ of the hairs in a small region, but it's hard to tell. That's not natural looking, but for some reason I guess Dr Bhatti likes to really take a lot of grafts from behind the ears. I can't see the far right side, but I imagine he overextracted from there too, as that's how he did mine and after my procedure I noticed that in patient photos, the areas behind the ears were overextracted. The only positive thing is that I can't see any obvious hypopigmentation. But that may just be because so many extractions were done in a small area, that instead of "dots" there is a "sea" of extraction scars. Scratch that, I can see some hypopigmentation dots along the left side, but I don't think anyone would notice.

Say goodbye to ever being able to buzz your hair without a "machined" jagged, narrow, and somewhat horizontal strip across the back of your scalp.

That said, I think if you had a few hundred grafts implanted into the horizontal "line" across the bottom of the extraction area, and some more into the overextracted areas, it would really reduce the "machined" appearance. It would look natural then, although still thinner than it had to be.

12 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

The results are far from finished and to say so is frankly, unethical, dishonest and uneducated.

It's been nearly 8 months since this patient's transplant. Dr Bhatti himself tells his patients that after 6 months, most of the growth will be apparent. Before my transplant, he told me that at 6 months I'd see 80% of the new hairs growing. Is Dr Bhatti wrong?

12 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes and I received several private message from other members with information that @AltonMeyer and @AltonMeyer2 may be working for another surgeon.

I just don't believe that AltonMeyer was a shill. I think Eugenix is nearly as shitty as Darling Buds, so I'm not picking one clinic over another either.

44 minutes ago, Panamera13 said:

I didn't know H&W learned the trade from Erdogan.

My question is - should I go to the student (and pay more) and go to the master (and pay less). I'm NW6/ Diffused.

Who is better for diffused thinning? As of now, I'm inclined to Rahal (very good info in cosult with density number etc) and cheaper than H&W.

I'm pretty sure that H&W are better on the recipient side of the transplant and I would definitely choose them if money m were no object. I don't know about diffused thinning or Rahal. More on H&W having learned from Erdogan below.

https://hassonandwong.com/our-journey-to-fue/

"In Europe the work of Dr Jose Lorenzo and Dr Koray Erdogan  has come closest to the quality of work that we like to produce. With their assistance we have trained already experienced technicians in their manual extraction techniques.  For approximately 2 years we have been slowly increasing the number of FUE procedures that we perform ."

@johanchicago, check out the below case, and observe the patient’s donor area after 5000 FUE. If Erdogan can do that, then maybe he can salvage your donor supply and extract more usable grafts than you think. You might want a doctor like Erdogan, capable of predicting which hairs are likely to be basically permanent so that every possible donor graft can be used, and who is able to homogenize your donor area and marry its density with the density on top, in a natural way. Maybe Bhatti estimated the remaining donor supply from only the safe zone, or possibly some areas outside of the safe zone but not every area that is usable. Also, I doubt he even measured your donor density, so I wouldn’t put too much stock in his estimate. Erdogan is known to be good at maximally utilizing every possible donor unit. He obviously measures donor density and methodically extracts a specific number of grafts from well planned and delineated regions of your scalp. H&W learned FUE extraction from him.

I think there are other doctors who learned from Erdogan, or who have a similar approach. Keser seems to do extraction really well. There are some doctors who would say that it is foolish to extract from too far outside of the permanent zone, but I think if the scarring is not too pronounced, and the grafts from different areas of your donor are mixed up on your scalp diffusely, then a little thinning later on will only look natural.

Lastly, I think someone like Keser or Erdogan can give you a much higher assurance of success. It might end up costing more, but ultimately what you’re going for is priceless.

I think the donor management is as good as it gets and you chose an excellent doctor. The grafts seem to have grown well, although more in the crown will help add the finishing touch. I’m wondering one thing: is the hairline a bit rough from close up? I ask, because I heard people say that Erdogan is good for getting lots of grafts and conserving donor, and that one can go to him first for volume, and then another doc to create a soft hairline. Either way, it looks really good.

11 hours ago, johanchicago said:

Thanks for you response @Nebulosity and @delancey. This is failed surgery by Dr.Bhatti, no matter what other senior members are saying. I totally agree with @AltonMeyer. I think most of my hair grafts died, 5100 hairs in the 2500 grafts but look at my scalp.

Also, please suggest or recommend top doctors whom I should consider for fixing this HT.

I trusted the forums and the positive post in most of the sites. I have attached a pic taken today 06/25/2019 and the more I look at my shiny scalp, the more I get disappointed and frustrated because I lost my 2500 grafts / 5100 hairs. Most of the hair was double hair follicles and now I have very limited grafts to recover from the damage, I check forums and I see results from 2500 grafts to be much superior than what I have received. I am left with a shiny scalp after my HT with no way to cover my head with hair. It's very disappointing and saddening.

 

 

I suggest finding a HT surgeon who will help you plan for the future and conserve your donor area and donor supply. Bhatti doesn’t do that, fullstop. Before any shills or mods pop up to tell me that he does a great job: AFAIK Bhatti doesn’t measure donor density. To properly manage donor supply, the donor density needs to be measured. Future loss needs to be estimated to some degree. Extraction needs to be done aesthetically. Bhatti told me that he didn’t need to measure my donor density. He “eyeballed” it and roughly estimated (i.e. bullshitted) my remaining donor supply. He also extracted in an unaesthetic pattern, limiting my future options and leaving artificial irregularities in density that are visible to the naked eye. This is not an approach the OP can afford.

I know that Erdogan has a reputation for being very good at managing donor. @johanchicago, you might want to look up Erdogan cases to see how well he extracts from the donor area without overharvesting.

Secondly, I think you should find a good surgeon who does BHT. I think there may be a few options in India but don’t limit yourself geographically if you don’t have to.

On 6/24/2019 at 4:07 AM, johanchicago said:

Guys, let's all stop blaming and shaming. This forum should be used to help people who may be considering a HT. I think anyone considering a HT has the right to research and have prior result of the doctor presented to them.

Again, I think @AltonMeyer is just sharing his opinion and I respect that and I do agree with him that my surgery wasn't a particularly successful one.

I have experienced that lot of the senior members jumped into conclusion that I was too bald, but the fact is Dr.Bhatti inspected my situation and seen my photos and based on the assessment decided to go with 2500 grafts. He also proposed to take 500 beard along with 2500 grafts to spread it over the entire head including the crown. I decided to go only with frontal / mid scalp section only.

I have attached a photo taken today, it would give you a close up idea on the current situation of the scalp. I am considering for a 2nd HT next year  to get some density on the front/mid and get some hair on the crown as well. I should have about 1500 grafts as per Dr.Bhatti's assessment post surgery, I am willing to get some body hair / beard taken to increase graft count.

Before your transplant, all you had available to you to assess Dr. Bhatti’s service were forum posts, brief conversations with him, etc. Now you’ve actually gotten a *failed* hair transplant from him, resulting from his own errors as a doctor, and you’ve been blamed for your own disappointment.

Now, based on actual experience, you can really judge and assess his service and decide whether it is worth going back to him and having him cut into your scalp again. I would run for the hills. You’ve only got one scalp, and really only once chance left at getting this right.

2 hours ago, delancey said:

I am not an undercover representative for any clinic and I find it unethical, dishonest and uneducated to bring up hypotheticals and accusations based on thin air in order to only defend a clinic that is supporting your website financially. Perhaps it would be more ethical and in order to stand behind the patient in this case instead of trying to digress away from this poor result. 

When an elite surgeon takes on a difficult case, it is of high importance that he educates the patient and explains what can and cannot be done via surgery. Setting realistic expectations is crucial; it is the duty of any ethical and caring Doctor to have his patients best interests in mind. When the patient understands realistic expectations, he is free to make a well-informed decision that will affect him for the rest of his life. Expectations were not set here, as indicated by the patient himself. Doesn't this concern you?  This was even indicated by the patient himself. As a moderator, you should be focusing on helping ensure that this doesn't happen in the future instead of accusing those who actually bring up valid points to ensure that the industry progresses. 

I would also like to highlight that it is an ethical obligation to turn down a case where the clinic feels that an expected result cannot meet the patient's expectations. How could the patient possibly know what to expect when the clinic didn't even go over realistic expectations with the patient?  It was highlighted by one of the representatives that the patient had a lot of area to cover, which seems to imply that this result is what the patient should be expecting. So if this is the type of result that Bhatti can deliver on a case like this, why on earth wasn't this explained to the patient beforehand? Why accept the patient's money and perform surgery that will cause a lot of difficulties and hardship for the patient long-term? 

To be perfectly clear, 2,500 grafts it a lot of hair, which should result in a nice hairline and somewhat thin frontal third. This result is far from it. 

After my own unfortunate Bhatti transplant, I asked Bhatti in an email why he had recommended such a low hairline. He said it wasn’t low. Later, in a Skype call, I asked him why he had implanted at such a low density. He said that he did his best given the available grafts.

I spoke with another Bhatti patient who said that the excuse Bhatti gave him for his sparse growth was that his head was too big. He also said that Bhatti hadn’t mentioned anything about his head size before the procedure, yet claimed he had.

And now we see another patient getting gaslighted with a similar excuse. “It was too much area to cover, what did you expect?”

I have a serious problem seeing this form of devastation and gaslighting come up again and again in Bhatti cases. This goes against the ethical principles of medicine, and yet Bhatti is still “recommended.”

1 minute ago, jonnyalex said:

Nebulosity, I want you to know that although it is difficult at this time, it is very repairable with a skilled surgeon such as Keser. It will cost you a little more, yes, but I believe you'll be happy with it after that. I really think you should be refunded the cost of this surgery too. 

Thanks. I appreciate that. I think this is repairable, although the loss of grafts is not reversible. I’m trying to gauge how much I should focus on repairing the donor area, and how much on fixing the recipient area. I’m going to try to get a refund, but based on conversations with past Bhatti victims, they were refused refunds. Also, I’ve been told by others that Dr. Bhatti repeatedly lied about and flip flopped on various issues. Dr. Bhatti sent me an email telling me that I had “grossly misrepresented my experience” or some such nonsense and (long ago) claimed he would reply in the forums. I’m pretty sure he would never refund me, although I do deserve a refund and have been completely honest about my experience.

Just now, Clark.Ethan said:

@JayLDDIt's pretty clear what he meant, just because you didn't understand it doesn't make him a 'moron', as you put it.:)

I definitely agree that @jonnyalex is a valuable member here, not a moron.

Group hug?

1 minute ago, jonnyalex said:

 

 

I honestly think you should be banned from here, any time someone says something you don't like, you get really aggressive and resort to name calling; I've seen it multiple times with you. I never called you any names..

You talk about intelligence yet attack me multiple times in your reply. I simply told him to give it 6 months and then go from there. Yes, the result is going to be bad, clearly it is. In six months however, I feel he will know what is required in a second surgery. 

I am quite clearly asking you 'why do you think I would have gone with Dr Keser if I thought his work was at Dr. Bhatti's level?' I mean, I'm reading it again and it's not hard at all to work out. 

 

Hey @jonnyalex, yea there was a misunderstanding, but this is a forum and that happens. If we all met in person I bet we’d generally agree on the relative competence of both of the doctors mentioned. Lets not suggest banning people who are brave enough to criticize “recommended” doctors. We need people like that. Yea at this point I’m certain that Bhatti messed up my scalp. Thanks for making me a repair candidate Dr. Bhatti! (TM)

But I value your and and @JayLDD‘s input. You’re both real, honest, and not shills, and so neither one of you should be banned in any circumstance.

46 minutes ago, JayLDD said:

"Pretty bizarre how you concluded that from my entire post... why do you think I just had surgery with Keser?"

This was what you said and I replied to:

"Nebulosity, what I will say is, a patient of whom I just had my second HT with, Dr Keser, was absolutely fuming and criticizing the doctor on every HT forum on the internet, "

Read what you wrote before criticising me for not mind reading due to your lack of writing skills, I thought you had surgery with him because that's what you wrote, moron.

On the other point, I appreciate that you're not a particularly observant person, but lets compare post ops of Bhatti and a Keser case, because if you think the precision or density is similar your intelligence and understanding is two low to bother arguing with. Once the hairs are implanted you don't magically increase density from directly after post-op. What is done is done and in the case of much of Bhatti's work there is a lack of refinement and density from day one. Are the hairs going to duplicate themselves? Some kind of sorcery going on we aren't aware of? If a surgeon implant 100 hairs across an entire balding head, are you going to meme "Wait 12 months"? Or more realistically in terms of Bhatti's work, maybe 70% the density what top surgeons are typically doing.  We can't pretend this is going to magically look good after 12 months if it doesn't on day one.

Here is a Keser case of 1700 grafts

Here is the Bhatti case 

 

Level of precision and density not even in the same league. Cut the "Wait 12 months" bullshit, looks like a child's work in comparison, the gaps are gigantic.

 

 

Yes. I was temporarily in a poor state of mind when I made the decision to get a HT with Bhatti. He is so incompetent, and yet so bizarrely and annoying arrogant. The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in him. The way he is pushed on this site as producing “fantastic” results or whatever is just absurd. My donor area is all messed up still, and frankly I don’t believe the doctor’s graft count. I think he lied about that, among other things. Maybe they extracted/transected 2369, and implanted 1800 or so. Sparsely. I think the main reason Bhatti is “recommended” is that the HT business is not very big in India. Objectively, Bhatti is not a competent doctor and no one should even remotely consider letting him cut into them. But he is available and the forum needs someone in India fo recommend.

2 hours ago, Lennney said:

I appreciate this post. I've seen both posts in the past, but neither have a resolution, hence my statement of not seeing Bhatti's work corrected. I've not chatted with the legal disclaimer person, seems a little flimsy to not post anything. You* are the owner of the body and all cosmetic modifications, no artist or doctor can prevent you from displaying your body and the modifications. A doctor cannot censor his patient. Even with a NDA, it would never pass the legal threshold of a binding contract. Suspect, but I hope to see the results he posts eventually. Could you imagine a take-down order for someone displaying a bad tattoo? What a dystopia this would be.

I think it is smart of a clinic to turn down patients. The patient may have a higher risk level, and it may not be worth associating your name with failure. Some of the highest if not the highest regarded surgeons practice this method of only selecting the best possible candidates and refusing all others. I agree that Bhatti doesn't operate this way possibly to his detriment. Bhatti does a lot of repair work, and I find that impressive and risky. I wouldn't want to try something someone else messed up for fear of a second failure. I think he may very well be too open to working on all who come to him. This is a genuine and possible criticism and concern. Maybe he should be more selective.

I think Bhatti doesn't prioritize money. If he did, he could certainly charge more, he has more name recognition than most if not all the Indian docs (similar to ASMED in Turkey - I only use this example for cost purposes, please don't take this as any deeper comparison ASMED charges more and does more volume, neither of which Bhatti is known for). Businesses differentiate themselves by certain strategies. Bhatti's strategy is lifelong service of a client. It's why I chose him; he is willing to serve a patient for their lifelong needs. It is appealing to me that he does BHT, since I think I will need more hair than my donor can provide later on in life. Some other strategies are volume economics and perceived greater quality. I mention this because nothing has supported a theory that he wants to collect money and do careless surgeries with abandon. He could do it more efficiently and for greater profit, yet he doesn't. That's my point.

 

The point regarding those two victims was that they didn’t have any physiological problems. Their transplants were just poorly designed. The grafts grew. But they were placed too sparsely. So they had to get a repairs. What difference does it make whether we can see the results of their repairs? Do you think that Dr. Bhatti was merely being wise to design sparse and unnatural frontal zones?

I’m not entirely sure why the one who already had his repair didn’t want to post his results. What I remember is that he claimed there were legal reasons which I assumed had to do with a disclaimer. This may be related to the jurisdiction where he lives and got his transplant. I don’t want to post the location. But it doesn’t matter. His grafts almost all grew in. The transplanted density was like half of what top surgeons do, and that was the entire problem.

Also, I didn’t have to try very hard to find two Bhatti cases like that.

I don’t know why Bhatti has so many cases of implanting too low of density. It is very hard to explain. Maybe he is not very good at achieving high densities in as many candidates as are other doctors. In which case, maybe he should advise his patients to look elsewhere or not try to lower their hairlines so much. Whatever the reason, he hasn’t explained it, and none of this leads me to believe he is ethical. Also, I found Bhatti to be dishonest on more than one occasion.

What I’ve understood is that H&W check out their patients and try to discourage them from going ahead with a procedure if there is any doubt that it will be successful, for whatever reason. They take into account physiological differences, and carefully design their extraction patterns and recipient areas to avoid walking their patients off a cliff. Dr. Bhatti seems to have the exact opposite strategy. Lets call it the “fast life” hair transplant surgeon strategy.

By the way Lennny, below are two of the Bhatti cases I mentioned where the inplanted density was too low, and where either a repair was already done, or is being planned. Their low densities were not the result of low yield. Their grafts grew. Their transplants were just designed such that the density could not possibly be sufficient unfortunately. I found several other similar looking Bhatti cases on this very forum, but didn’t have time to chat with all of the victims to find out what they ended up doing. I guess most people don’t like hanging around on hair transplant forums. Go figure.

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This patient is planning a repair procedure. 

[2]

This patient already had a repair done, but is not allowed to post results due to a legal disclaimer. I chat with him a while after the procedue and he said that things were going well and that his experience and results with the second doctor were much better. I’m very happy for him. He also posted an image of his shaved Bhatti donor area from right before his repair transplant, and it looked bad, and not in a diffuse pattern at all.

2 hours ago, Lennney said:

Can we pump the brakes on a second transplant? I'm less than 6 months (exactly 5 months - 150 of 365 days) into my surgery which have a well documented 12-18 month maturation period. It is irresponsible to speak this way of a procedure. If I had braces (which I've had) and I was 5 months in, and had you tell me "well, you'll need a second braces set to finish what this braces set is doing" I'd think you're wild. Let the procedure work it's way in. I will judge the efficacy at 12 months, and again at 18 months. I won't be judging it at 5 months.

My hair was at about 60 degree angle, by this I mean, look at my side profile view. My temples were approaching the center-top of my head (which would be the 90 degree portion). I looked like a man in his 30s quite possibly 40s. I now pass as a college kid under 25. Again, I appreciate the complement, but I had a disconnect between how I felt and how I looked. I spoke about this in my posts. It is uncanny the feeling of seeing a stranger in the mirror.

I do understand what you mean. I think a transplant is for one’s self, and not necessarily for other peoples’ consumption.

Bu the way, a good way to show hair transplant results is to show a close up of where the native hair meets the transplanted hair, and maybe a shot where the native hair is combed back.

Regarding the maturation of a HT, I’ve spoken with several very reputable doctors by phone and discussed the topic of HT timelines with two of the most famous ones. One said that by month 7, basically all of the hairs that are going to grow, have probably grown. The other said that maybe it’s worth waiting 12 months, but at 6 months the majority of the hairs will have sprouted. And regarding waiting 18 months, he said you might get a few more hairs in that extra 6 months beyond the first year.

In the case of my transplant, I measured the average density post transplant at around 25-30 follicular units per square cm (if that) and took a photo with a translucent ruler, it is sort of easy to compare with more recent pics and get an idea of yield. I can say with confidence that around 75%+ of my inplanted hairs have grown. Only one area is noticeably low in yeild. I don’t see why I would need 6 more months to realize whether the density is sufficient. It’s not.

You can also make a judgement on day 1 just based on the density of implanted follicular units. In my case I could see an extreme contrast between the density at my native hairline which is too high for me to measure, and an implanted density of around 25 follicular units per square cm at the edge of my native hairline. Even though the implanted hairs were a bit thicker than my native hairs at the hairline, it’s like there’s a wall or a force field where the density just abruptly drops. There’s no way it can look natural. Since then, more than one of Dr. Bhatti’s former patients have sent me images of the *same exact issue* with their transplants. One had a repair transplant recently. Another recently scheduled his repair. *Exact same problem* as me. The implanted hairs grew, but the density just wasn’t at all sufficient, by design.

1 hour ago, Lennney said:

I don't think you read my post. You wouldn't have mentioned this last bit. I mentioned I was happy as-is. Am I typing for the benefit of myself? Are you reading any of this?

I can't help my hair falling forward, after a certain length, hair falls. I appreciate Melvin saying that, but there were others who said this earlier. I think such results are impressive at 5 months post op, don't you? Thank you for the complement of being fine before, but I was truly balding. I looked at minimum 5 years older (I got called 23. That was flattering). I picked Bhatti partially for the temple work. Temples are coming in nicely. 

I don't think you read any of my of my post

I know you’re satisfied. I read your entire post. I just think that in hindsight you might not be satisfied with the result. I think you will look fantastic if you get a second transplant to improve the density. Yes, the shape of the temples look good, but I’m not sure about the angle of implantation. My temple point implants are going off at a totally different direction from the native hair around them. I think you should consider another doc and fill in for better density. Yes, you were balding before the transplant but I think a natural look is better than having an unnaturally thin frontal zone that is so low. You looked good and didn’t necessarily need a transplant.

37 minutes ago, Lennney said:

I'm not sure I agree with the bolded comments. I've gone out of my way to ensure I was as unbiased as possible with my photos. I've kept the same camera, lighting, location, and angles and I have not used product nor medication in any of my photos. It is almost laughable how much of a meme you are. You push a specific agenda. With a preponderance of evidence to the contrary of your point, you persevere with your mission. I won't call my results anything but my results - precisely because they are my results and nothing more. I appreciate you keeping the negativity off of my thread. I've noticed a real decline of negativity when my results started to come in. Initially there were numerous comments of density being an issue. I can say that I am pleased with the density and I don't require others' opinion on what is acceptable density. My expectations have been met. Since my name has been slandered, it is only fair for me to provide the evidence against and for my case. Make of it what you will.

This is 2.0 months donor (post haircut), 2.5 and 4.5 (post haircut). I stopped taking pics of donor because I like the length of the last pic and there was no sizable difference in donor quality. It was entirely unnoticeable and not worth posting.

As far as the density, I don't push my hair forward outside of a single pic which I stated in my post (remember, I made a conscious effort to maintain comparability between photos😉.).

 

 

Those are Mar - June, each at a month mark. If you're interested, I will post an update tomorrow which will be my 5.5 - 165 day update. @Nebulosity really took the air out of me posting a 6 month collage I had planned. Even if my hair was finished growing at this point, I would still prefer this look to my prior one. 

I don't have a problem with you nor any of the other posters who criticize Bhatti. I think you should be able to post your results and have discussions about it. It is fair to say my HT success and your failure is not entirely due to the skill of the surgeon, but related to post op care and physiology. I think you will have a stronger case against Bhatti (and I'm sure you will agree) if you were to go to another surgeon and reap success with a fixer HT. I haven't seen (so far) any who have done so. I ask the casual observer: Are the critics bad HTs or bad HT candidates due to physiological or care issues? 

I've seen Bhatti fix several HTs. I haven't seen Bhatti's failed HTs fixed from other surgeons. He leaves much of the donor alone (your critique of "donor density"), so there should not be an issue with depleted donors. The case seems to be ripe against him, yet I've seen no evidence. If you show me a few cases, I'd gladly consider your views. 

I do believe your intentions are good. I appreciate this site because it changed my life. I can empathize with your scarring, and how you want to protect people from what you experienced. I show this site to people who want to change their lives. I think your claim needs support like any hypothesis: Show me members who have had a failed Bhatti HT who have gone on to have it fixed elsewhere. 

It’s fair enough that you are satisfied with the results. I’m not accusing you of hiding anything. I just think that the density is not enough to look natural, based on the graft placement I saw in your post op pics, and in your more recent frontal pic. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the hair on the top of your head is going more forward than any other direction, and it’s hard to see from your frontal pic how the native and transplanted zones blend together. I hadn’t seen the overhead pic before. It seems evident from that pic that the density is probably quite insufficient. I am sorry for that, and sincerely wish you the best possible outcome. In your donor pics, your hair is pretty long, so it’s hard to discern much from them. Melvin used the phrase “home run” when discussing how your transplant was turning out. He brought up your case in this thread when he accused another forum member of being an undercover rep, as if your case proved that Dr. Bhatti produces excellent results. If he hadn’t brought your case up, I wouldn’t have said anything about it. Again, I wish you the best possible outcome. I very much regret ever trusting Dr. Bhatti, and think it is fair to comment on what I believe are poor results.

The very best of luck to you. I’m sure that if the results do not end up being satisfactory, you’ll fix it and you will look great. You looked fine before the transplant.

@AltonMeyer is no undercover rep. Based on my interactions with him, he is looking for a good transplant surgeon and learning the industry before he takes the leap. He started out pretty positive about Dr. Bhatti.

20 hours ago, Shera said:

Johan,

We will support you and do what we can to ensure your initial expectations are met as much as is possible.

I have PM'd you and I hope to speak with you soon.

I was told I would receive support, but Dr. Bhatti has ghosted me. My donor is damaged. Also, it is not acceptable to simply offer a redo to achieve initial expectations. If Dr. Bhatti could not achieve decent results the first time around, what makes you think a second try is advisable?

12 hours ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

@AltonMeyer 

It seems you’re only here to post disparaging posts about Dr. Bhatti. Im surprised you haven’t commented on @Lennney post because so far his results are looking fantastic.

Truthfully, not every surgery is going to be great and @Shera has already stood by the patient. I have a feeling you may be an undercover rep for another clinic. I will keep a close eye on your account. We do not allow undercover reps. 

I do not think the density in @Lennney‘s transplant is high enough to match the hairline placement. He has only posted frontal pics with his hair forward. He has only posted pics of his donor at a length that would hide fairly significant irregularity or excessive loss. His results are not obviously terrible based on the pics he posted, but they’re pretty far from great, or even good. I mean no disrespect to him, and wish him the best outcome. But his transplant is no “home run.” I didn’t post in his thread out of respect. It’s his thread, and he deserves to post what he wants without negativity. Viewers can gather their own conclusions I guess. Meanwhile, the people who have had quite obviously poor results with Bhatti, or have commented on those poor results, deserve the same respect. Not only that, but Bhatti has not responded in a helpful or respectful manner to very valid complaints and that deserves mentioning. This is not FUD. Like @AltonMeyer2 said, it’s calling a spade a spade. I comment in this thread because I sympathise with the loss, the scarring, the disappointment that poor results cause, and have experienced what I perceived as poor workmanship and dishonesty by Dr. Bhatti. Are you going to ban me too for posting my honest review or commenting on that of another poor Bhatti outcome?

On 6/19/2019 at 7:08 PM, AltonMeyer said:

Just want to thank everyone from my side too. I almost went ahead with Dr. Bhatti a few months ago only to pause for a bit after reading a few negative reviews. 

From then on, I've only seen terrible results from Darling Buds. 

The scarier part is how the reps have blamed the patient for the failure in every case. 

My only hopes of getting a decent transplant seems to be from Dr. Bansal now. Will have to research Eugenix a bit. 

I’m glad you’ve managed to dodge a bullet.

1 minute ago, AltonMeyer said:

6 months of growth should give you enough idea of where you are headed. Just look at successful transplants, they look great by the 6 month mark and the donor is completely healed. We can talk about improvements if we've got a good base around the 6 month mark. 

Reps usually ask you wait for 12 months only to damage control. 

Thank you. I agree. Also, Dr Bhatti himself said that the hair should be mostly grown in by 6 months. I think my yield is not that bad, at least not as bad as it could have been. I need to live with this for at least another 6 months, so I’m hoping it looks sort of close to normal after another month or two of growth.

1 hour ago, hairlossPA said:

how many months in are you again?

158 days. I can see by comparison to right after the transplant, that most of the follicles have grown in. By the way I remember your previous post where you seemed very concerned about being “fair” to the doctor by waiting exactly 12 months. I think that’s very wrong headed and I’m not interested in your comment.