Kiwi Guy

let's see some photo's bro... usually at 4 months the growth is only beginning.

this is looking good artofeden, congratulations, i hope it keeps improving to where you want it to be.

21 minutes ago, DEB1982 said:

I was going to say pretty much what FarsanUk has written below. He's covered it pretty well so no need for me to repeat what he has said. All I can say about results being hit and miss is that it is not always down to the surgeons but also down to many other mitigating factors. Hair diameter, shock loss, unrealistic expectations. They all differ from person to person. Given the outstanding result and customer experience that I have received from Erdogan and the whole team at Asmed I would be naive to go anywhere else. I am certain they will take good care of me. 

I know the technician you are referring to and her name, she was also the lady who performed all my extractions. She was brilliant and I couldn't fault her. As you said, if you have any doubts it is always best to ask the question and they will explain it to you. 

Fair points, thank you for sharing your experience.

Hi Deb, congratulations on your original result with Erdogan the first go around... question, are you at all concerned about all the mix reviews he has had since you had your first op? It seems as though he has had some new techs come on and the results have been a lot more hit and miss then just a few years ago.

1 minute ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

I’m Dr. Diep’s former patient, I’m not his rep or any other doctors rep for that matter. I work for this site, but I would like to make it clear that we don’t work for doctors or sell transplants. 

However, I will answer your question to the best of my ability, the truth is there is nothing universal about a persons donor. The train of thought has always been to only use hair that would be considered safe in a norwood 7.

However, the vast majority of men will never reach a norwood 7 level of baldness. Some men never even reach norwood 5. Some men only have frontal hair loss thwir whole life. So, the donor zone should be treated for the individual. While, there is no crystal ball to know how far a patient will bald, there are some indicators that provide doctors the ability to make an educated guess. Age, family history, current balding pattern etc. Going high up on the sides can be disastrous for some and not for others, it’s a case by case basis, again depending on the aforementioned factors.

I really appreciate the detailed explanation, I never knew any of that. All I have read thus far is that you should only ever extract from the safe donor zone, it's good to know this is a case by case basis type of area on an individuals scalp. Apologies for stating you were a rep of his also, it makes sense you are his ex patient who received a good result so would advocate for him to others.

1 minute ago, Melvin-Moderator said:

It’s actually the opposite, when you see posters stop posting at month 3. It’s usually because they forget about the forum once they see growth. Most guys who think they have bad results will post every two weeks and will complain about it. The second reason wouldn’t make sense unless the poster was continuously posting.

Yeah these are fair points Melvin, I'm new to all this so just assume the worst after some of the horror stories I've seen. I hope this guy has had a home run result.

I have a question for you since you are his rep on here... just from the photo's, why is it that Diep has gone so high into the area's of the scalp where a guy could actually go bald still? From what I read that is dangerous because these hairs won't be resistant to DHT like the ones at the back of the scalp in the sweet spot per say.

good luck with the growing, looks like good work.

On 12/3/2018 at 4:47 PM, mhaider1991 said:

Any update? Hate it when guys do this, you can never tell the outcome. Either post your results consistently or don't at all.

I tend to assume when this happen it was either A. a less than stellar result or B. the clinic has asked them not to continue with posting and offered them some sort of free touch up.

8 hours ago, harrylloyd said:

@Kiwi Guy It was $13,5 but people should also factor in cost for travel. I know fin is basically the front line of defense and proven to have great results but I can't risk the potential side effects. And I get that the chances of getting those are low but I feel like over the course of years it can't be healthy for you. People already complain about low sex drive, watery semen, gyno..it's just all too much. I can't risk stuff down there

Oh wow really? I didn't know aboutm the gyno stuff, that scares me haha... where did you travel from for the op... outside of the U.S?

25 minutes ago, made2care said:

Well at 5 months his work is showing. Just keep on growing, I'm looking forward to the end result. I am back on finisteride and so far, no side effects.

good for you, arocha is on my short list of prospective ht surgeons so will be following your progress.

Any update for us mate?

good luck with this, i hope you get a great result, Dr Arocha seems to do good work, as for the question you asked about fin, i've personally been taking it for years with no side effects that I'm aware of, I hope you jumped on it.

Good result indeed, do you have a pic of his donor post op by any chance?

You definitely chose the right surgeon, you will get a good result in the end, i really hope you consider getting on Fin though bro because that is one of the biggest tools for fighting this balding battle, can I ask how much Dr Konior charged for 2k grafts?

i hope you get a home run result mate, please keep us updated.

• Good luck with this nomorehats, Rahal is on my shortlist of surgeons I am thinking of going with so will be following your progress intently.

hey man, don't second guess your decision now it's done, you made the right choice if it's going to bring you more happiness and self esteem, as far as the pics go you could always put some up anonymously, meaning just hide your face or whatever if that's the concern, we are all on here to support one another in this so no one will have anything bad to say - just support and advice.

Thank you to each and everyone one of you guys that left a comment/ had some advice, definitely more to think about, I think you are right also, I will follow up with the doctors I am considering for the hair transplant itself. Cheers : )

Hi there,

You've had three hair transplants already? Who were the surgeons and what were the number of grafts each time?

12 hours ago, gillenator said:

Surgery should always be the last resort however if that is the best option for producing the desired end result regardless if its the scalp or beard, the key is to use donor that is the best in visual compatibility for the recipient area.

IMHO, any of the top docs can potentially do a good job with a facial hair transplant.

Thanks for that Gill, I've been taking fin and applying minox' since I was 29, I'm 35 now and though it's slowed it down it hasn't stopped it entirely, now is the time for a transplant, so I was thinking of killing two birds with one stone and tackling the facial hair portion as well, especially living in New Zealand I am a long way from the tops surgeons so if I'm going to travel to the States or Canada for the op than I may as well get both done at the same time IF it's actually a good idea.

20 hours ago, BlessUp said:

do not get a beard transplant before you tired minoxidil beard journey first. 6 to 12 months. minoxidil works to grow facial hair too if you apply it to beard area.(i have personally done it) you can also try in addition derma rolling or 10% tugain if 5% not working. hell even a cycle will promote facial hair(use finasteride if u do of course) google is ur friend if u never heard of minoxidil beard journey

beard transplant are very hard to make natural def try the natural way first and see what u end up with. ur head hair is so small compared to beard thickness a scalp to beard transplant would look off. best u can do is neck beard if u got one to cheeks to fill in gaps as last resort

I had never heard of 'minoxidil beard journey before', thank you for the recommendation and advice : )

My issue is I have next to no facial hair, i get enough of it under my chin and around the underside of my neck but barely any in the desired area's (damn you genetics lol), hence why I'm so interested in getting it done, most of the top surgeons I'm considering for the HT don't have any pics up of beard transplants, I think Gabel might from memory but no one else.

Hi guys,

My first thread started on here : )

So I am 35 and have been balding since my late 20's. It's finally gotten to the point where it needs to be truly addressed beyond fin and minoxidil. I'm looking at getting a HT in the next year and I use this website largely for my research into which surgeon I am going to choose. My first question is... do any of these top surgeons do scalp to beard or beard to beard transplants as well? While I'm doing my HT I am going to also get x amount of hairs transplanted into my goatee and mustache as it is really weak and patchy. I'm wondering if surgeons like H&W, Konior, Diep, Shapiro could do both for me over the same surgery.

Cheers for the advice and info boys... it's invaluable.

Best of luck with it Legend, from what I've researched H&W are a great choice, i'm sorry to hear about the situation with Diep, he does good work but if he is getting like that with his patients frankly he will deservedly lose business in the long run, will be following your progress closely : )

Hey bro thanks for sharing your journey so far. Have you thought of contacting them and asking for the free touch up they are supposed to give out to underwhelming results? The hole in your hairline isn't good enough by them in my opinion.

It's good to see a result from a red headed client, you don't often see this type of hair color in hair transplant results.