AltonMeyer

54 minutes ago, johanchicago said:

Hi Shera,

Dr.Bhatti explained me what to expect - 'he clearly mentioned I should get decent density'. I was actually inclined to go darling buds/Dr.Bhatti after seeing all the good results but I should have clearly done more research on bad results. I don't know if any other surgeon would do it better but I consider my surgery a example of Dr.Bhatti's bad result.

The total number of hairs was 5115

Single - 328

Double - 1657

Triple - 491

I think most of the hair grafts did not survive. I am considering a second surgery later next year. Check out my outcome after 9 months of the surgery. Absolutely horrible outcome.

2500 grafts was never going to be enough for that area anyway. I do not know why Dr. Bhatti decided to go with that number, maybe you have a thin donor? 

In that case the hairline should've been even more receded. 

I have to say, looking at this picture the procedure does look like a failure. 

If the problem was with you all along then Dr. Bhatti should've simply told you that you aren't a good candidate. 

Mate I'd just shave my head if I were you and move on. I think you'll be just fine

4 hours ago, Looking for HT said:

Hey mate. I nearly booked with Dr Bhatti but in the end going ahead with Eugenix in December. Did you contact them yet? Would be good to know more folks who are looking at Eugenix. Cheers

I have brother. I think I'll meet Dr. Bansal in July and book for December too! We can stay in touch! 

Just want to thank everyone from my side too. I almost went ahead with Dr. Bhatti a few months ago only to pause for a bit after reading a few negative reviews. 

From then on, I've only seen terrible results from Darling Buds. 

The scarier part is how the reps have blamed the patient for the failure in every case. 

My only hopes of getting a decent transplant seems to be from Dr. Bansal now. Will have to research Eugenix a bit. 

11 minutes ago, Nebulosity said:

158 days. I can see by comparison to right after the transplant, that most of the follicles have grown in. By the way I remember your previous post where you seemed very concerned about being “fair” to the doctor by waiting exactly 12 months. I think that’s very wrong headed and I’m not interested in your comment.

6 months of growth should give you enough idea of where you are headed. Just look at successful transplants, they look great by the 6 month mark and the donor is completely healed. We can talk about improvements if we've got a good base around the 6 month mark. 

Reps usually ask you wait for 12 months only to damage control. 

10 minutes ago, Badresults said:

Hi @Looking for HT unfortunately the doctor @darlingbuds, @bhatti and @Shera has been quiet as you can see from the blog and post here. Well, what can you expect from them other than keeping quiet? Anyone who reads this and come here should really think twice if they want to go Darling Buds and Tejinder Bhatti. 

Before procedure they would “promise heaven and earth” after surgery they go quiet.

Safe to say that I'll be striking Dr. Bhatti off my list. 

On 6/14/2019 at 3:23 AM, Shera said:

Badresults,

I'm not really sure where to start here, I'm not sure where you are from and I'm not sure why you haven't made the effort to at least try to contact myself or one of Dr Bhatti's other representatives. For those who feel I or someone else should have replied sooner, Badresults chose not to go through me or any of my colleagues, he went to Dr Bhatti direct. Even now he has gone gung ho on this website using links and tabs to cause maximum damage to Dr Bhatti and basically all of us who have a connection with the clinic.

Badresults clearly doesn't value mine or any of my colleagues’ opinions or surely he would have at least made an approach. So I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do at this very late stage once all the fireworks have been let off and no one invited me to the party. Perhaps some of you could enlighten me.

I look after guys from the UK and some from abroad who contact me. Those that choose to go through me get my support and to date I think they value it highly; you can search for any complaints. I manage 2- 3 guys’ journeys a month and that's it. It's not my full time profession, more like a hobby; I get a buzz out of changing people’s lives for the better. There are many guys who have messaged me privately on this site and they know I've always tried to give my honest opinion and not ram a transplant down their throats. So a little respect would be nice, after all first and foremost I am just another patient.

Those that choose not to go through me, I'm not even aware of their existence.

As I've been called out here (thanks Kevin20), I'm going to give my take on this, I won't be making any more posts on this thread, if anyone wishes me to elaborate they can PM me. I'll leave it to Badresults to post the full story and you armchair experts can form your own opinions. All I ask in the interest of fairness is that Badresults presents the full facts of his case, I will speak to Dr Bhatti and I will have a read of all the correspondence to see if any other issues should be raised. If so I will present the facts only through PM to any of you interested guys in discussion.

So here we go,

Badresults, firstly can I ask where you had your first surgery?

What made you choose that particular surgeon?

What were the reasons given for the failure of your first surgery?

Why did you not feel the need to name and shame that particular doctor and clinic?

Also to get a clearer overall picture of your case, can you post clear pictures before and immediately after this first surgery clearly showing the implanted area and your donor area post surgery. This will help determine whether a pattern of bad growth exists with both surgeries and the donor that Dr Bhatti had at his disposal.

Also, I'm not trying to be clever here; it clearly is another procedure where your implanted grafts have not grown out, that is not questionable.

It is a good move to see a dermatologist and I'm a little surprised that you did not see one after your first failed surgery where any issues with your scalp could have been identified and addressed.

Have you even considered that your first surgery could be to blame for your subsequent failure?

Your implantation area certainly would have been in a worse condition than in your first surgery, this is why it’s important to see clear pictures of that surgery immediately post op so this theory can be discarded.

You should have allied your expectations with the evidence clearly in front of you. One failure doesn't guarantee success in a second surgery regardless of the doctor, no surgery is guaranteed to work as you clearly now know. 

Also, it could be that you are just not a good candidate due to your physiological make up. Maybe your scalp just won't take new grafts or is damaged from the first surgery. These are all ifs and buts but the reality is there is no straight forward answer to a transplant failure. Name a surgeon who has a 100% success rate on a virgin scalp never mind one that is in for repair.

Another reason could be the technique and the surgery itself. I know some of you will be delighted that I've finally come to this point but if that is the case then how do you explain the temple points growing out just fine. That would clearly point to a problem with your scalp.

The doctors reply in this case is pretty accurate, seriously what more can you do apart from go to another doctor and document your story from the start so we can follow it and if it doesn't work this time I guess you owe Dr Bhatti a massive apology.

On the other hand if it does work you have a strong case for at least a partial refund from Dr Bhatti. I would be more than happy to take this up for you.

And again, he's right; if it fails a 3rd time from another doc then there's no point in going on. Words I'm sure you don't want to hear but you should.

To round off, if the surgery was your first surgery with Dr Bhatti then you would have a strong case, but as it's a total failure and a repair from a previous unknown doctor's surgery then it was always going to be uncertain.  Seeing all the successful repairs Dr Bhatti had previously completed and documented you mitigated the risk by going to him but it didn't work and you should have at least had that thought at the back of your mind.

Also you say you did your correspondence all through email, the fact is you had direct personal contact with Dr Bhatti throughout and no third party. You were also free to skype him as many patients do. I'm not really sure what else you expected. You have tried to twist this to make Dr Bhatti look bad. It will be interesting what your thoughts will be when your "elite" surgeon talks to you through one of his many secretaries.

To conclude you should go to that "elite" surgeon but you should be aware there are no guarantees. Prior to any surgery you should visit a few dermatologists and see whether they can find any underlying issue for the failure of nearly 4000 grafts to grow in 2 separate attempts from 2 differing techniques.

I do understand your upset and I really hope it works out for you the next time.

All the best.

Jesus Christ. 

Why would anyone reply this way? 

What you're asserting here is that if the procedure is a success, the doctor takes credit but if it fails, the patient is to blame. 

There could very well be plenty of reasons why a transplant could fail but blaming the patient at every step is just ridiculous. 

19 hours ago, Nebulosity said:

Day 146 update: I cut my Bhatti donor area to a number 3, and it looks about the same as it has since about day 1. It’s still patchy, almost like the intention was to advertise that I got a hair transplant. I won’t cut it any shorter, because it’s just too obvious that way. From the left side, it almost appears like I have a linear scar from FUT, because of the dramatic arc of sparseness in contrast to the density above and below. That’s the area that I will have a better surgeon focus on for repair. Note: I cut the entire donor area, and the areas just above and below, to a uniform length.

 

How's the growth coming along in the recipient area? 

5 hours ago, Baldnomore8 said:

I did my HT with Dr Bhatti for approx 2800 grafts in Dec 17. Prob very similar density as yours. 

I don't understand. Why is the graft count so low for such a large area? Do you have a weak donor area? 

1 minute ago, ahmedabad_guy said:

Hello Guys,

Time for my one month update. Shedding has been started since last week but still not lost all my transplanted hair. I have heard from other people shedding will continue for one more month so i am expecting by next month i might lose all my transplanted hair.Not looking forward to that but i guess this is the part of the Journey.

Please find my one month pics attached.

 

Looks fantastic man. Happy growing. 

56 minutes ago, Bill - Managing Publisher said:

@Nebulosity,

 To be completely honest, I have no idea what you are talking about. You are about four months into your hair transplant and the very first day you posted you said you weren’t happy with your “results“. You clearly don’t understand that hair transplant results take a year to 18 months to grow in doesn’t make a lot of sense. You’re also now talking about hair transplant removal when your newly transplanted hair probably is only just starting to grow in if yet at all. 

Truthfully, I really don’t know how anybody here can help you if you don’t listen to reason. Now, I don’t know what conversations you had with the doctor but I do agree that he should at least try to address your concerns and answer your questions. However, you do not have any results yet to discuss and there’s nothing he can really do to satisfy your concerns except to tell you to wait, be patient and in another 8 to 10 months or so, you should be very happy with your results.

 So, I strongly suggest that you stop worrying so much, stop talking about failures and results when you should be only just starting to see first signs of new growth from your transplant from a couple months ago. Sit back, be patient, and enjoy some warm weather activities depending on your location and wait it out like everybody else had to. 

Best,

Bill

I'm really surprised with your answer here.

I sincerely hope that this forum doesn't ONLY protect the clinic's interests and reputation at hand here. This forum has backed patients and should do in this case too.

I agree that its too early to comment on the final result, but the donor definitely has been treated to some poor work and it doesn't need months of waiting for that to be apparent.

Honestly, I am just shocked at the response @Nebulosity has received from you. One would be more understanding provided that he's already been through so much.

Regards

3 hours ago, johanchicago said:

I have also seen people saying if I was give the option to have a higher hairline. Again, the hairline was also designed by the doctor and I did not even ask to put the hairline one cm lower.  

I have to agree with this, yes. It is the doctor's responsibility to judge the best-suited hairline for the number of grafts that are available for harvest. In this case, I can't help but wonder why it wasn't designed to give a more receded look.

Thanks for the write up.

Can we have some pictures please? 

Looking good mate!

@Abhinay Singh

Just another suggestion: Always please post post-op pictures as well.

54 minutes ago, Abhinay Singh said:

Mr.P is a 28 years old white male. He underwent DHT technique and 4000 grafts have been implanted in front and mid Scalp. Below are the pictures of before and one year two months after the procedure. 

Thanks for posting.

This is a very good result.

You might also want to note that many of us who do follow your clinic have seen all these cases on your website. You might want to post newer ones.

Regards

Just now, Petroholic said:

@AltonMeyer

Wernt you suggested higher number of grafts by Dr Bhattin?

Or was the donor sparse.

I am not the patient. I supposed I have been tagged by @ahmedabad_guy due to some sort of confusion.

@johanchicago is the patient.

On 5/1/2019 at 4:51 AM, mmalm said:

It looks fine, if you want to look like you shave your head. I liked it a lot for a while. But, I've been missing my hair for quite some time now, so when the opportunity presented itself, I took it.

Mate, you look absolutely fantastic the way you are, with the SMP and that beard!

IMO you shouldn't really bother with an HT. But go ahead and do it if it makes you feel good!

Regards

2 hours ago, ahmedabad_guy said:

Day 7: After Head wash.

 

Looking great mate!

When do the scabs usually fall off?

Also tagging @Shera. Dr.Bhatti has done some complex repair work. Maybe @russtaman can get his opinion too. 

Damn, sorry about the multiple posts. Somethings wrong with my mobile view.

15 minutes ago, russtaman said:

I have to agree we are our own harshest critics. Here is the crazy thing... I actually like the shaved head look for me though. Its just the damn scar is so there and noticeable. It feels like its the subject of everyone in the room whose eye falls on it. The pics really don't convey it. Its more the dark line of the scar than anything. The SMP was such a godsend otherwise.

I agree, the SMP was solid work.

About the scar:

If I were you, I'd consult some good doctors around me to see if it can be camouflaged a little bit better, but if nothing works I'd leave it behind.  

The same amount of time, money and effort can be put into growing a good beard, working out or even on dressing well. The scar doesn't have to be the only thing that holds you behind from living your life.

You might have heard that a lot, but in all seriousness, both the shaved look and the 1mm buzz cut would suit you good. Yes, the scar might stand out a bit, but trust me it doesn't look that bad and certainly, nobody is going to judge you for it. 

I agree, the SMP was solid work.

About the scar:

If I were you, I'd consult some good doctors around me to see if it can be camouflaged a little bit better, but if nothing works I'd leave it behind.  

The same amount of time, money and effort can be put into growing a good beard, working out or even on dressing well. The scar doesn't have to be the only thing that holds you behind from living your life.

You might have heard that a lot, but in all seriousness, both the shaved look and the 1mm buzz cut would suit you good. Yes, the scar might stand out a bit, but trust me it doesn't look that bad and certainly, nobody is going to judge you for it. 

Hey,

I am really sorry to hear that you had to go through all that.

My personal advice would be to not worry about your scar - it seems to be taking a huge toll on other aspects of your life than it should.

When we usually bald during our 20s and 30s, we often spend loads of money and time trying to fix it, in the end, some of us succeed, some of us don't.

You can try to fix your scar with another repair procedure, but I feel its high time that you move on from all this once that particular effort is done.

In my personal opinion, you don't look bad/odd at all with a shaved head. You could also try sporting a beard.  

21 minutes ago, Nebulosity said:

Dr Bhatti has told me via email that I have thrust negativity on his clinic and his personal character. But, he said that he would continue supporting me as he does his other patients. The thing is, I haven’t been given any explanation or support regarding the state of my donor area. Also, twice I have requested a copy of the image of my donor area immediately after the procedure or after thr extraction, because I think that would help me to seek support elsewhere. I haven’t received any acknowledgment of those requests.

Man sucks that it has gotten so complicated. 

Hey @Abhinay Singh

This is a solid result. Looks like the crown area was also operated upon, could you please post pictures of that too?

Also pictures of the donor post op would be nice as well.

Thanks