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Okay well my 3 months of being on fin isn’t helping as much as I hoped ... the hair caliber is still thin all over top .. seems like whenever my hair fall , new hair doesn’t grow back to take its place .. therefore the volume of my hair keeps on reducing .. this year has been the worse year for my hair .. I haven’t gotten a haircut for 3 months now n it doesn’t seem like hair gotten thicker or longer and I still lose a hair or 2 when I shake my head . I used to had to get a haircut every month .. don’t know why hair doesn’t grow anymore ... I’ think if I shave my head my balding pattern will be more noticeable ..im doing a good job of hiding it right now .. but as I lose more hair I can’t cover it up . That’s why I have to get my transplant now ..so I still have some hair to cover up the transplant .. since I won’t be shaving my head , just the donor n receive the hairline .. I can’t imagine myself being bald .. I will look totally different .. the thought of it has been stressing me out and not letting me enjoy life .. I always suffered from mild depression most my life and that’s before my hair loss started .. the hair loss is making the depression worse ..

I post some pics tomorrow .. i still want to go though with it just nervous. Reading upon bad hair transplants makes me nervous however .. n even folks with good hair transplants even still had regrets .. cuz u have to get another later on.. I don’t want to make things worse .. I’m budgeting max is $20k for - Hair transplant throughout my lifetime .. any more than that is too much for me.

My hair volume is a lot less. But my recession isn’t that bad .. I’m nervous because my hair has thinned all up top .. so just thickening up the hairline might not help too much .. since I already have a hairline.. im afraid I might have diffused pattern baldness.. I just can’t comb it forward like Korean kpop folks anymore .. I lost too much hair . ..but if I comb it backwards it doesn’t look like I’m balding. But it makes my face unproportion cuz of my big forehead n small face .. I’m so afraid that I might have the Balding pattern of mister Burns ., where the top just thins out all over .. n I lose all my top .. cuz all the hairs feel thin .. feel like I’m just getting older now n my hair follicles are weak .. so my hair is just flat .. just no bald spots .. - I’m afraid that if I lower my hairline it would cause my forehead skin to be bumpy n might get that redness that doesn’t go away .. is this how balding starts tho? All ur hair up top thins , so the volume is less , n recession up front ? I still have too much native hair to where I can’t do a big session to get zones 1 n 2 .. midscalp . Where I can get back my volume .. right now I can only do zone 1 .. the frontal band.. those hairs don’t grow long anymore .. I’ve seen some Norwood 3 ‘s on this forum that had receded a lot .. but the remaining hairs are thick .. so a hair transplant of 2500 grafts really makes a nice difference .. My hair is thin all up top with minimal recession. .. so even if I thicken up the hairline I’m doomed to lose more hair n be stuck with an unnatural look .. I’m so feeling sad this year .. losing hair really hurts the self esteem ..

Best wishes to ya .. it’s a new start ..

I’m having doubts now .. propecia seems to be working for me .. don’t feel like a hair transplant is needed anymore .. but I do want to lower my hairline a little bit n bring in the temporal points to make my forehead look smaller . It’s not worth the money , but I’m stuck with a non refundable deposit of $2000.. so I’m stuck going through with the transplant .. afraid however that the transplant will do more harm than good ..

Hey u guys .. I appreciate y’all having ur opinions n looking out for my best interest .. while also promoting your own docotors .. but no worries . It just makes me be more detail oriented about my surgery .. I’m not going to let any clinic take advantage of me..even though I only started researching hair transplant this year.. but i still learned a lot from online .. this forum n others .. I have decent hair right now .. 1200 grafts is not a difficult surgery .. but it’s still expensive ! So my expectations r high. But reasonable . I want improvement, at least 90% of transplanted graft survival. N no patchy spots of ungrown hair to where I need a small repair .. last thing I want to do is going in for another procedure to fix little patchy spots ... n native hair shockloss to be minimal.. I will email the patient consultant n doctor about my expectations .. n what their expectations are n what they are looking to achieve .. that way I will have it in writing .. I don’t want them to promise me something they can’t do .. if they need to make my hairline less dense to give the hairs enough blood supply to live ., then they should .. n I will let them know that .. I feel like this doctor is competent ..I don’t know if the doctor is one of the top surgeons or not , he’s still young , but he has two transplants himself already , he should have empathy n good ethics towards his patients . he’s going to care about our hair also .. n also want to showcase his skill level .that’s why I feel he can get the job done .. that’s my thoughts of him .. and I will document this surgery.. to motivate the doctor and his team to do a good job .. don’t treat me like another patient . but treat me like your only patient .. I will email them exactly what I wrote here .. so yeah , I’m not some kid that’s just jumping into a transplant .. I’m a grown man that’s done his research that’s paying good money to a clinic to get the job done.

Well I just had my FaceTime consultation this morning and made my non refundable deposit .. everything sounds good n professional .. I’m positive they will give me my moneys worth .. They guarantee whatever grafts don’t grow will be replaced for free if I wanted it .. I’m excited about my procedure now .. I can’t smoke for a few weeks either , so I’m going to use that opportunity to quit smoking or at least cut down my cigarette intake .. start workin out again , n overall just treat my body better ..going back to college next month , I need to take one more class so I can get my degree .. ( been in college off n on since I was 19 .) heheheh that’s 19 years I’ve been in college but yeah I’m finally going to finish n get a degree .. n settle down n start a family too .. I’m getting older now .. got other things to worry about than just my Hair.. so this transplant will let me not worry bout my hair anymore for many years to come .. So I can focus on other aspects of life , so yea Money Well Spent!!! So I will answer my own question ? Will it be worth it? Most definitely !! peace out everyone .. wish y’all the best in life . This thread is now closed !!!!

Well yeah u gonna know better than me .i just started balding , this is all new to me .. I don’t really care who the top surgeon are .. I needed a surgeon that’s competent and can get the job done that’s local to California and can fit into my Christmas schedule .. if I were to ever get a second transplant I probably go Dr. Nader for price and excellent work .. but yeah I don’t need to hear anymore opinions on who I should go.. I’m already as nervous as it is ,, I really don’t want to be stuck in the hairtransplant train having to get one done every few years to catch up .. right now I might just go ahead n book it with dr. Baubac . I like that he does the extractions himself .. that was a big selling point for me . I be their only patient that day ... n I rather be positive n look forward to it than fear it ..

See the gaps in my hair when I comb it forward ? N with my big forehead I look ugly when I comb It back ..so I never comb it back unless I lower my hairline n bring in my temporal points .. so later when I lose more hair I can comb it back or to the side to give it an illusion of density .. a good dense hairline work will provide good coverage in the front again .. giving me back 5 years of youth .. what y’all think ?

Thanks mountainman .. I appreciate your support .. it’s what I feel also .. last couple years even when I had a lot of hair .. I was already noticing that my hairline was receding n I was losing my bangs . Made me sad cuz I knew I was balding , n my good looks wasn’t going to hold up .. I know my hair isn’t that bad .. but I have a small face n a big forehead.. I need hair to cover my forehead n accentuate the nice features of my face .. I always wanted to lower my hairline n bring in my temporal points .. so my forehead n face will be proportioned .. so I can age gracefully n still be attractive .. I’m almost going to be 39 in 4 months .. I feel like this procedure will let me enter my 40’s feeling confident in myself again . Instead of feeling like I’m getting older n balder.. When I made my money selling my house ,, I didn’t buy anything expensive for myself , like a new car or expensive toys .. I spent money on family n friends n my girlfriend . N just tried to be a generous person in general ... even though I ain’t rich , just average income ... but this hair transplant will be for me .. so right now I feel like I chose a good doctor ..thanks to some of u guys suggestions .. Unless you guys think this transplant is a bad idea since my transplant is only 1200 grafts n I should wait for my hair to get worse before doing surgery .. I’m making my deposit tomorrow n going for it .. ..

Yeah dr. Baubac I’ve heard good things bout him .. won surgeon of the year 3 years in a row .. well re knownowed for dense packing .. I just called them n they will get back to me for a consultation .. if they have available dates in two weeks imma just going to go for it .. they charge $8 a graft which is kinda standard around here .. also giving me $1500 off for travel reimbursement and free PRP with the transplant.. they also said they will gurantee their work n do a free repair if the grafts don’t grow .. it all sounds good to me so I’m canceling dr . Rassman n going with dr baubac ..

I really wish propecia will thicken up my hair .. so I don’t have to go thru this transplant journey .. the thought of having to pick the right surgeon.. spending $ thousands of dollars only to have to spend thousands more just get back our youth is really disheartening.. feelin old now .. my dad was a Norwood 1 when he was in his 50’’s so was my grandpa n all my brothers .. I must of fukked up in life n didn’t take care of my health n dyeing my hair every few months .. I think it messed up my scalp .n not taking medications early on . since I don ‘t think my family has aggressive MPB .. but yet here I am .. researching about hair transplant n willing to spend so much money on hair .. hair that I took for granted all these years cuz I had so many .. so here I am Paying the price .. all I can feel positive about is that I had Many good years in the prime of my life having good hair .. n at least I still have coverage at my older age .. I can only feel empathy for the others that had to suffer through hair loss at a young age n others that have a more aggressive hair loss .. best of luck to everyone .. I keep y’all updated on my journey..

Yeah see .. everyone has their own opinions n thoughts .. n I’m a open minded kinda guy so I take everyone’s thoughts into consideration .. so I usually just go with my gut .. my gut was to just go with William rasman/ Jae pak at new hair institute .. that place is not a butcher job .. they know their stuff n care about their patients . They helped invent Fue n the Artas robot . n they fit my schedule . I email them tomorrow n ask some questions before I cancel the appointment .. but I will also call alvi Armani n get a consultation with them also .. .. the 3 California doctors on the recommended list In California are booked up for the next couple months .. Diep is the only one in California that’s on the list that I’m impressed with .. but he has his techs doing most the work n the donor area looks really messy n bloody .. I’m having a feeling that he cares about immediate results .n ur money . not the long term effects of his patients .. n also about the doctors that need to be on the list .. from what I read on the forums they have to qualify by doing quality work . But also have to pay an annual fee of $25,000? Not every good doctor want to or need to pay that fee.. their office makes Enough money to not need to advertise on here . So the list I take it into consideration as a starting point , but other factors play a more important role .. so yeah I guess I’m as undecided today as I was two weeks ago .. a hair transplant now would be convenient and helpful .. waiting a year for propecia to kick in .. still won’t be that beneficial n I will just be Delaying my hair transplant to see if it gets worse so I can have a bigger procedure . . I was looking forward to getting a hair transplant but now I’m not so excited about it .. it’s just something I have to do ... sooner or later .

Oh yeah I agree with what most of what u guys says on here.. especially jsrader thinkin jean can be a prick.. which I totally agree.. but he means well , just young n not know how to say things in a more positive manner.... but yeah I'm calling Alvi Armani tomorrow. Dr Baubac to see if they can book me in 2 weeks .. which I doubt.. if not then I wait till next Christmas.. and wait a year to see how beneifical propecia is to me. But. I checked out their website and youtube videos.. they are also in Beverly hills..( hopefully they are 8$ a graft n not $10 ) But I like the work I saw.. I like that they are famous for their dense packing.. ( the Doctor performs the extractions .. which is the major reason I want to go with them, im not paying that much money to have the tech do most the work. ..If I'm paying around 10K.. I do not want to come back in a few years to fill it in for denseness.. I want it as dense as possible without cutting the blood supply of other haris. the first time around.. The terminal hairs behind my hairline is dense so it looks thick.. but its thin.. all the hair on top of my head is thin that's what makes me scared even though my hairline hasn't moved too far back.. maybe I be one of those older guys with thin hari but with full coverage.. I be okay with that in my 50's.. ... I really don't want to be stuck in this continuous hairtransplant journey.. of having several hairtransplants.. hopefully just 1.. then one more when I'm 45 around.. thanks for everyones thoughts n opinions..

Well after reading all the comments.. n negative results from others having a subpar hair transplant I decided I’m going to cancel my surgery with Rassman n Jae pak.. it’s too big of an investment in time n money .. I just don’t think they will be able to give a good enough result with 1200 grafts .. it won’t be a big enough difference for me since my hair loss is minor n just starting .. I’m still almost a Norwood 1 with thinning top hair

I really want to hear from others that had a transplant already .. n r they happy with it ? was it worth it ?

I’m going to email them this weekend n ask for more details about their procedure n what they expect to achieve . N if I feel comfortable with them then imma go for it .. if not I’m going to ask for my deposit back and wait to see if proprecia is working good enough for me to wait till next Christmas to book with someone else..

Okay fine , I will reconsider a new surgeon .. n wait it out for propecia for a year to see if my hair thickens up .. then I might either go to Canada for hasson n Wong . Or Nader in Mexico, I don’t want to travel too far . But want to get good money value n excellent results .. surgery is a big deal .. .. I also have a Feeling my hairline won’t be as dense as I want going to Jae pak .. therefore $10k won’t be worth it .. so I have one more week .. to decide . Anyone else has opinions ? Besides which doctor I should use .. am I just wasting time not getting a transplant now .. only knowing I will need one soon .. either way I know I will get a transplant either now or next year .. n also why is doctor Rassman not on the list anymore ? He was on The recommended list before .. did they just decide not to pay the fee or they had bad work done ?

I’m going to transplant In that area .. it’s my plan.. n lower the hairline a bit n do the temporal points ..

So yeah my main question is .. it’s not bout which doctor I should go to .. But will 1200 follicular units at the hairline improve my hair .. or is the trauma too much n cause more hair loss ? I think with propecia it will thicken up the hair up top .. n with the hair transplant it will recover my hairline .. right now I don’t worry bout the money .. I sold my house made good money .. I want to treat myself ..n I don’t really care bout the miniaturized hair at the hairline .. they don’t grow long anymore so I have gaps in my hair when I comb it forward ..which makes me feel insecure ..I don’t care if they get shockoss n fall out I rather have new thicker hair transplanted in that area .. it’s rather should I wait for it to be totally bald at the temples so they don’t kill the blood supply of my transplanted hair.. or Will it be okay to transplant hair into there .. n if the native hairs survive then it will just look like I have more density n won’t need a 2nd transplant for many years to come .5-7 years ..

I did see the dermatologist at kaiser to get a prescription for prooecia 3 months ago .. the first thing he said to me when he first saw me, he said I was going to be bald . , like Bruce Willis .. I was like really is it that bad ? Im 38 n I have no known history of baldness in my family .. me n all 3 of my brothers are Norwood 1. I didn’t even think I had mPB I thought it was just my bad nutrition n me smoking n drinking all the time.. he’s a young doctor ,, a dermatologist with no hair loss .. he doesn’t specialize in hair .. dude didn’t even check my hair for miniaturization or do anything..when I told him I wanted a dht test before I started prophecia so I can have a baseline measurement to see if propecia is working for me after 1 year ... he said there is no dht test .. so I googled it for me him .. then he felt stupid .. n got me the test ..( which came out normal not high n not low .. same with my testosterone level , when I left his office he was like I’m the most knowledgeable patient he has that knows about hair .. in my mind I was like dude this is not what I want in a doctor .. u need to know more than what I can research online .. or don’t be my doctor n telling me imma be bald .. but yeah I can see where he’s coming from I’m having a lot of miniaturized hairs all up top n In the hairline .. I lost a lot of density in the past year .. but bald ? Like Bruce Willis , n Mr burns ?N why he got to say it so mean . .. that’s why I be feeling like imma be bald n started to look into a hair transplant .. .. I also went for a hair consulation with the local doctor that had a 4 star review in my city .. I didn’t even get to speak with him .. had a 10 minute consultation with the sales manager that said yeah You thinning on top n tried to get me to try their artas robot 8.50$ graft n $1500 for PRP.. I got the heck out of there .. it was obvious they don’t care bout me , it was just the money ..they weren’t hair specialists, they just do it on the side ..their main business was facial treatments n boob jobs .. ... I had an online consultation with dr William Rassman , he didn’t rush me into a transplant n wanted me to get a face to face consultation first to do the hair check test n miniaturization test to see where I’m thinning n future hair loss will be n wanted me to be on prophecia first to prevent shock loss ..n also check out their open house to see results of their past patients . But I live 6 hours away.. since Rassman only does FUT , his partner Jae Pak does the FUE so he Pak would do the surgery . n when I talked to Dr. Pak he seemed like a straightforward guy .. when I said I wanted to do the artas robot .. he said I shouldn’t .. that manual FUE was better .. even though they could of made more moneh with the robot $8.50 for the Artas n $8 for the manual fue .. n they also hold patents on the robot .. they helped invented it .. that showed me they don’t need the extra money but rather have me get good results .. so I feel I can trust them with my hair .. I just don’t like that the techs do most the work he just draws the hairline n do the incisons.. I’ haven’t cut my hair for 3 months now so If I have my hair transplant now I can cover up the surgery easily by combing my hair forward n no one will know I had Surgery.. they also fit my schedule .. since I booked it 2 months ago n it’s not too far of a drive .. i don’t want to travel to far at the moment .. I be all by myself n it be a major hassle .. .. if I were to go somewhere else .. Dr. Nader seems kool, he’s cheaper n does most of the work ..

Yeah I hear u guys .. I’m getting doubts myself .. thought of having surgery is making me nervous .. what’s wrong with jae pak ? R they bad ? I couldn’t find any negative reviews bout them .. n honestly , the thought of having surgery then being stuck with future transplants really sucks .. hurts the wallet n time ..propecia seem to help .. hair fall has been a lot less .. I just don’t know still .. it be nice to have new hair .. I’m not really a wait it out n just to do it later kinda person .. if I’m planning on doing something I rather do it now kinda guy .. But yeah when I look in the mirror I don’t see someone that needs a transplant right now . Just someone that feels like a transplant will bring back 5 years of my youth .. so why not just do it now ? Propecia won’t give me back the hairline that I loss.

Hi again .. thanks for the comments.. n concern My transplant surgeon is with dr. Jae Pak / William rassman in Beverly Hills .. they are not on the recommended list of doctors but they know their stuff .. they are pioneers of the industry but a bit conservative which is fine with me since my procedure is small n I rather not have them Fuk up .. I want to lower my hairline and do my temporal points to make my forehead look smaller .. then for once in my life I can comb my hair up , instead of hiding behind my bangs .. .. I’m getting married next year to my 25 year old girlfriend .. that’s why I want to do my transplant now , so in October 2018 I be good to go . I look young right now , So no one can tell my tell true age .. if I let my hair recede to a Norwood 3 . I’m going to look my age . N there’s no way imma feel confident in myself to be with her .. confidence goes a long way.. that’s y I’ve always been able to date younger girls .. Also I chose them because they will do a bulk measurement hair check . N miniaturization test to see where I’m balding .. to have a master plan in the future .. ideally if this transplant goes well .. I won’t need another until 5 years hopefully ? Then I will choose a cheaper doctor that’s top notch that’s on the recommended list of this site .. going international for my 2nd transplant to save money .. a couple months ago I felt very depressed .. I went to general doctor n dermatologist at kaiser .. I knew more about hair transplant than them .. I felt so sad .. felt like my hair is just falling out n no one to help me .. this website has given me a lot of hope n knowledge .. so now I have a game plan .. please provide your comments n experience with your own hair loss or transplants .. thanks

Hi everyone thanks for the support and thoughts ..Everyone’s opinion has been been appreciated.. n I can understand everyone’s point of view.. some days I wake up n feel like my hair is okay .. it’s tolerable .. sure it’s not thick n dense anymore .. but at least I have coverage n no bald spots .. even though it’s hard to comb n look good . But then again I’m already 38 . My hair is just catching up to my age .. most people would pay good money to get coverage .. N yes I’ve tried rogaine , natural supplements n a laser cap . For the last six months .. it seemed to make it worse .. the rogaine especially .. I tried it on my hairline n temples . N it made the miniaturized hair thicker .. but also caused inflammation n dandruff . N made the surrounding hairs easier to fall out .. I can tell cuz when I tried to flick the dandruff off 3-4 hairs just came right off .. That scared the crap out of me .. so I stopped wasting time n got back on propecia 3 months ago .. I just returned my capillus laser cap , paid $799 for it .. with a 6 month warranty .. so I’m returning it n get my money back minus a 25% restocking fee .. I don’t know if it helped or hurt .. but my hair is worse now than it was 6 months ago.. must of been the shedding from rogaine . Check out the pics below .. first one is in July 20th 2017 .. n second one is today .. i was a Norwood one with thinning hair .. n now a Norwood 2 with even thinner hair .. that’s what scares me .. gosh hair can go so quick .. .. I appreciate everyone for sharing their stories and thoughts of their hair loss .. I’m still open minded about my upcoming surgery .. lookin to hear more thoughts .. I got one week left before I change my mind n get my $1000 deposit back . I respond back to some of your guys other questions later .. thanks for sharing .. P.s notice how my hairline was thinning but still strong enough for me to comb it up in July .. n now when I comb it up its just flat .. 3rd pic is why .. cuz I lost an inch of my hairline from rogaine shed .. it’s like every time I try to do something for my hair .. it just makes it worse . That’s why I’m nervous of a transplant .. trying to make things better only to make it worse .. but gosh a transplant is the gold standard of improvement of your hair . So I’m still willing to take a chance .. cuz doing nothing is not good enough ..

Hey Alex .. I can feel your pain .. I’m panicking at the early onset of hair loss .n it’s stressful . people with a more aggressive hair loss and especially at an early age , it must be extra difficult . I hope things go well for you . Wish u the best In life .