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I wonder if the lack of medication is affecting this result?

They are both reputable doctors so who does the incisions and extractions I think is not important. They have well documented results. They also seem to care about the patient post surgery if the result is not as it should be. Very little between them.

That is horrifying. I wonder what will become the Turkey transplant industry if they ever become part of europe? I guess by the time that happens, we may have a magic little pill instead of FUE etc.

I don't think Dr Cinik is a consideration so that leaves you with the other two. I am also deciding between those two and I am slightly concerned about the high number of grafts that Dr Yaman does, not only that but he seems to do them all in one day. Dr Demirsoy seems more ethical in my opinion. If you're really stretching on budget then Dr Karadeniz may be worth looking into.

In fact I'd suggest googling Dr. Tayfun Oguzoglu before considering him...

It's a shame the BBC didn't do this report anonymously. I won't be able to trust the outcome of any result considering the clinic was given advanced notice of the surgery. It's not an objective result.

I'm not sure how to chop one pill into 20 pieces!

Due to sides I want to go back on fin at 0.25mg dose but I only have 5mg pills!

I can't no, I'm not disagreeing with you...only wanting to learn! I can't help feeling that his not so spectacular results are because of the low number of grafts that he does. Does his ethical stance have an impact on his final results? If Dr Resul did the same number of grafts as Dr K, would he get the same result?

Are there any particular things you can pinpoint as to why this is or is it a lack of experience with Dr K? Dr Resul always seems to get good results on here but often you see really high numbers of grafts from him which does make me question things from an ethical point of view and the future of the patient. Before anyone wonders why I resurrected this thread, I'm researching my first op - I don't work for Dr K or anything!

One thing I would say is that Dr K seems ethical. He won't be doing 5000 grafts in one day like a lot of Dr's in Turkey. In fact I don't think he even does that many grafts full stop.

I am a norwood five I think. Sides should be there after 3 weeks.

Excellent post. Any idea what Dr Demisroy's opinion is on those who don't take fin? It doesn't agree with me. Thanks for sharing your experience, this Dr is at the top of my list at the moment.

Hi Indexo, Thanks for your update. I know you seem reluctant to post pictures on here of your progress so I respect that. I think we can all agree here that less successful surgeries do not always mean the surgeon is at fault, some people may not always react the same way to HT surgery. I guess for people like myself who have yet to embark on a HT - we would find it useful to see your progress visually because we could manage our expectations better and further our knowledge of the period post surgery. Thanks again.

I'm pretty sure Dr Karadeniz is one of the few doctors that doesn't exaggerate photos and gives an accurate portrayal of his work. He seems to be quite conservative on his FUE hairlines, having said that, even on his higher FUE grafts, the densities do look quite lacking.

I've seen the forums you are talking about. Question is, do you know what you're looking for for telltale signs of a good hair transplant because it doesn't appear you do? I'm still learning myself. Search on this site for Cosmedica and see the truth yourself. The surgeon will be drawing a hairline only whilst his assistants do all the work. You might as well get one done in a backstreet. Is that what you want? It's actually not legal what they're doing. The surgeon should be doing the work. I cannot see your hairline from your pictures properly but consider this. What if you get to the age of 35 to 40 and your hair starts thinning? You'll be left with what the transplant has given you and then only half the donor hair left to cover a much larger area. You're taking a massive risk, especially with the fact you're not taking medication.

Firstly, don't even consider Cosmedica. Wipe it from your mind now unless you want to pay extra in the future to mend their mistakes. I would continue researching this as even considering Cosmetic indicates you haven't researched much. There's no guarantee you've inherited your dads hair. You could lose a lot more than him, are you on medication to halt things? Dr Yaman has given you a rough idea of what he's thinking, he hasn't drawn a definitive hairline for you, this is for you both to look at in person. I'm no expert but if I were in your position I would wait a few more years and see if medication works for me. Once I know it does and the hair is at a stable loss, I would then go ahead. You only have a finite number of donor hairs to make things right and you're young.

Everything points to Dr Oztan being excellent, his FUE protocol - everything. But you're right, I cannot find much of his work to analyse. For me, the purpose for going to Turkey is to get a better price. If I were to consider a price level of Dr Oztan then I would just go to Belgium where their work is more documented and proven.

Dr Karadeniz may be absent but he can be found elsewhere and lots of examples of his work. He was recommended on here and didn't continue. Personally if you're talking prices of 2.7 euro per graft then I'd rather just go to Belgium.

I'm not sure if I agree with you on Dr Oguzoglu. I did have a look earlier when you mentioned him. I'd take Dr Karadeniz over him. Dr Yaman and Dr Demisroy at the top of my list right now.

Hi Sivy, I am in a similar position to you in terms of seeking a doctor. Have you been given an estimation of number of grafts? I found this can vary quite a bit from doctor to doctor which I assume is to do with their FUE protocol. I don't know about dr oguzoglu. Everything I read about Dr Demisroy indicates he is highly ethical which for me is important. I am seriously considering him or Dr Yaman. You will require far less grafts than me, I feel both of these doctors are very capable.

Hi, If you consider that the best doctors in Turkey charge around 2.5 euros per graft you have to ask yourself, how is this clinic able to offer me a price that is over 7x cheaper? What are they saving money on? You may not need to seek out the best surgeon in Turkey but 7x cheaper? Having looked up where your doctor works, you can be confident that he oversees assistants doing the work rather than doing it himself. Do you want that risk?

Maybe you could seek further clarification from his assistant?

Hi Toni, That is annoying but I'm sure it is some kind of miscommunication. From personal accounts on here Dr Raman sounds very hands on and I'm sure you have already read but he stated this in another thread which we have no reason to doubt: "I decide the transplantation area and the hairline.I use a special technic to draw the hairline. Some parts of the eyebrows and the ending point of the eyelids are marked in order to take measurements. From these marks to the edge of the face, I take measurements and equalize both sides to form a symmetric line. I create the recipient incisions by using lateral slits. I do extraction with micromotor by myself by using 0,7-0,8 and rarely 0.9 punches according to the hair thickness . I lower the spin speed of the device. It is a very good device that lets us get extractions similar to manual FUE. The assistants carry out the planting. I have modified the current procedure a bit.Because the grafts spend more time outside of the body with this procedure. I pay attention to not to extract more than 1500 follicles at once.The operation might be done from one to four phases.After extracting and implanting 1000-1500 grafts. It is repeated fort he next phases. I have gone through the forum and realised that some problems had raised.My clinic is in a hospital which has many doctors from different specialty work and aproved by Turkish Ministry of Health.I operate one or two patients a day which I think is still tiring.You can be sure that we are not a clinic which cares too much about financial concerns and operating many patients in a day and most of the work done by assailants"

For me it's either demirsoy or yaman, both seem like ethical skilled doctors. If you look under the contact me on the website, the English number is the doctors assistant on whatsapp. He will reply quickly to you but you need a smartphone and whatsapp installed to do this.