LondonHTseeker

It's pointless worrying about growth when you're only a couple of weeks out from the operation.

Dr Feller, it seems curious that here you recommend a wait of at least 8 months between operations, but here: http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/161553-am-i-one-unlucky-few-4-years-post-strip-dr-feller-2.html you claimed : "I told him what he wanted was fine in terms of hairline height, but that he would not be sufficiently thick due to thin caliber hair and overall available grafts. He said he completely understood this but would "rather have a thin lower hairline than a thick higher one", and that he would come back in 6 months to fill it in to achieve the density I recommended. He also wanted to do his temples as well, but I advised him there wouldn't be enough grafts for such an ambitious plan on the second procedure. So we agreed to do the aggressive surgery now and then for him return in 6 months for a fill in and temple work. This is a perfectly reasonable plan, but unfortunately LondonHT never returned. " Hmm.

Sounds like fraud, which you should report to the police.

Almost half the price? lol He's much cheaper than that. And I don't think that means compromised quality either, it's to do with the economics of being in India.

Bono had a hair transplant with Dr Feller I think. During my last operation, Bono came on the radio and Feller said he's had a hair transplant. I asked Feller if he did it and he pointedly didn't answer, just sang to himself along with the song.

Really nicely designed hairline, looks like you're in for good density as well.

I've had both strip and FUE. While i hate my strip scar, having strip surgeries first enabled me to get the most grafts from my donor region. It is also an absolute fallacy when people suggest that FUE provides no donor area issues, it can significantly and visibly alter density in that area.

Looks really good so far. I don't think it looks too low because you have a high forehead. I may go to Dr Bhatti for my final op. Only reason I didn't last time was because of having to get Indian visa and flight.

Oh OK, I take your word for it that Dr Keser is a lot cheaper, I admittedly didn't do a thorough price comparison. I think Dr Keser is still a lot more expensive than my Dr Eser surgery was. That was 1500 Euros for the session. Apparently my grafts were mainly ones and twos.

Wasn't intending to "hijack" your thread, I was merely trying to relate my situation to yours in terms of grafts required. In other words, it can take a lot of grafts for only a small area. That seems like a reasonable guess at the grafts required.

I'll answer these questions anyway. Prior to my most recent surgery with Dr Eser's assistant I had around 4000 grafts, with Dr Feller. The pic that Spanker posted in this thread is not from recent pics. That photo is from a folder which was taken before Dr Feller's third and final op on me. The third op was for 700 grafts, the previous two combined were for 3250 grafts. The photo Spanker posted in this thread represents 3250 grafts into a completely bald area at the front of my head. I didn't have a thinning area of hair before HT surgery, just bald scalp then thick hair behind that. The transplant didn't really go to my mid scalp area. Although it looks a bit like it did in the photo in this thread, it's really just the shape of my head making it look like that. Why did so many grafts look so thin? I wish I knew. Why has it taken so many grafts to fill in the front of my head? Again, I wish I knew. I can only guess at the options - I either had some poor growth, or I have the characteristics of fine hair combined with a bigger than average frontal head area, which require a very high density of grafts. Probably it's a mixture of the two options. From the coverage area of the first operation and the amount of grafts that were used for that, it makes sense that it ultimately needed significantly more than another 2000 grafts to achieve good density at the front considering how low I have taken the hairline.

I don't know how I've required so many grafts for just the front of my head, 6500 so far.

I've pretty much answered those questions and misunderstandings earlier in this thread so it's easier for me if you read up. Last operation I had my lower temples done (with Dr Eser's assistant) for the first time, and I don't think the density will be good enough. So I'd rather have the remaining donor hair FUE to finish the lower temples off as a priority and then maybe body hair to fix the scar. Maybe I can ask Dr Eser to do it herself next time, for a reasonable price, as Dr Keser isn 't much different price wise than the Madrid/Belgium surgeons.

Dr Feller's patient instructions are to massage the grafts at two days post-op. His instructions claim that the grafts are anchored by that point so long as you only gently massage them in the shower to prevent scabbing.

I'm not in a rush to use meds as my hairline has been stable for over 10 years (37 now). The possible side effects/expense are significant negative factors at the moment, until the benefit ratio outweighs that. I'm confused with what to do about this donor scar, I don't know if I should use more precious grafts on it. I doubt I have much more than 2000 head donor hair grafts left and may need that to thicken up the result in the hairline in 6 months or so. I can't deny I'm not too happy that Dr Eser didn't do the operation and that I instead got a younger and doubtless less experienced surgeon. But there was nothing I could by the time I realised he was the one doing the work not Dr Eser. I mean he was very friendly, but it was kind of rushed and the density of the lower temple work looked questionable. Maybe I'll pay the extra and go to Dr Keser to have him finish it up next time.

Yeah, that photo Spanker posted was from before my last HT from Dr Feller. Since then I've had around 3000 grafts into it which I'm waiting to grow through. I hear what you're saying Spanker, and now I'm thinking about going on the meds. When I took issue with your description of my hair as very thin on top I was struggling to relate it to the back of my head, but that's just semantics. I agree it did look very thin in the transplanted area, hopefully that will change in the coming months. I've been thinking that my hairloss had stopped, but it might be progressing slightly in which case I may go on the meds. I can't discern if I have lost any from my crown or not. Mickey so you think SMP first? I guess that would help to break up the line. I just don't want any fake effect.

Amazingly neat work there.

Thanks Chris. I don't think the FUE extractions have widened the FUT scar much, but I did expect him to avoid that area more than he has. Still don't know what to do to cover it, I'm leaning towards some more FUE grafts. I'm not a fan of the tattoo method other than for very short hair. Spanker I'm still curious about what you say; you think I have very thin hair on top? I don't take that statement personally or anything but I'm not sure it really fits as a description of my hair. I had a significantly receeding hairline at the front which went completely bald and which I have brought back down low to my original hairline. That has taken a lot of grafts, but I'm not sure why it has taken so many. It's possibly because I have pretty finely textured hair that requires a lot of density for coverage. It's also possible that not all my grafts grew, for whatever reason. If you look at the photo of the crown of my head I think because the hair is fine in texture some skin shows through in direct light, but I don't think it's thin in density. I guess I might be starting to thin there though - maybe I should seek an opinion from an HT doctor on that.

I agree the donor does look depleted, I hope it will look fine when it grows out a bit.

I am pretty happy with my results so far, apart from the FUT scar. I'm curious what you mean when you say I've lost quite a bit of hair? I did lose quite a lot at the front but haven't lost any behind the transplanted area at the front, so I'm curious as to why you think I need to be on meds? The first folder in my photographs was taken before the 700 strip graft with Dr Feller. The recent folder is of the back only. I'm very happy Dr Feller went low with my hairline as requested, it's exactly what I want. I hope I'll keep the rest of my hair til cloning comes along. The loss seems stable so I'm confident I won't be losing more for a long while.

I had loss of my hairline at the front. I had my first FUT with Dr Feller around 7 years ago, for approx 1250 grafts. A year later I got another FUT with him for 2000 grafts, to lower the hairline a bit. Last October I got a further 700 FUT grafts into the front hairline (again with Dr Feller). That improved the scar slightly and made a slight difference in density at the front. 3 weeks ago I had approx 2500 grafts via FUE with Dr Eser's partner doctor (which was a surprise as I was expecting her to do it) in Istanbul. I'm shedding now, and just have to wait it out to see how well the grafts grow. If they do grow then I will have good density at the front, with the rest of my hair on top still thick (I haven't needed to take meds). My question is, what should I do about the big HT scar at the back? How many grafts do I realistically have left to harvest after having used around 6500? Should I try doing small scar revisions on the strip donor scar in incremental stages? Or will those small scars still stretch? Advice is appreciated. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/LondonHTseeker/albums/2407

I' m very curious about this pricing. Currently I'm going to Dr Bhatti in India but this has me interested. I obviously only want quality work but I also want the cheapest quality work available. Rob did you have a translator?

I'll get a picture up of mine.

Well, unfortunately my Dr Feller strip scar is easily noticeable when I have my hair short - definitely a problem. Looks like I'll have to get FUE into it in a year or so - pain in the neck (and head) and expensive. Two plus inches is just about when it becomes unoticeable.

Congrats, looks like you could be in for some impressive results. Thanks for the information, Dr Bhatti seems to be running a tight ship. I hope to book surgery with him soon.