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notgoing2gobald, heres the deal. Im not on ru so i dont know. It hasnt been tested by the FDA, who knows if its serious health risk. I also dont know how the funding works. What i do know is that ru 58841 is a hot topic and those who have heard of it know that there is the possiblity of huge potential

sorry for not specifying, I saw someone who posted their reults on a website, which looked very proising

palmetto*

A good report on how saw palmetoo works http://www.myhair.co.il/sawpalmetto.html

It is speculated that Ru 58841 is basically rogaine on steroids. The one guy i saw take it, got some amazing results. you can read a little about it here... http://www.myhair.co.il/ru-58841.html

zgmf, was there a point in your life, lets say with in the last 5 years were you didn't have a widows peak? On other words have you always had a wodows peak or did you develope one

wanthairs, my bad for being sceptical, just misinterpreted things. I am very interested in the product but would like to hear more from people who have had first hand expirence with it before i try it.

wanthairs you gotta relax dude im obviously not trying to sell this to anyone. Many people are interested in the product and i thought theyd find the link helpful

I just came across this on another forum... Ru 58841 is now for sale http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=htt...nUS225US225%26sa%3DN

I just came across this on another forum... Ru 58841 is now for sale http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=htt...nUS225US225%26sa%3DN

milopo, Welcome to the forum I like you have started losing my hair young. Although its different becasue iv been receeding since the age of 16. I know it sucks being self concious about it but there are things that you can do. At your age id really looking into getting on a consistant regime of the big 3 -nizoral shampoo -rogaine or minox -propecia

I currently use nizrol 7 times a week and have no complaints. Data from testing shows that the average person did increase hair count and diameter. Nizoral is in no way a cure but with very mild side effects(if any) it is certainly worth using.

Who cares im a niners fan anyway

procerin is a load of crap dude. Its main ingrediant is saw palmett(worthless). Stick to Rogaine propecia nizoral shampoo

Notgoing2gobald, Do not base your expectations of rogaine on those results. Those results were exeptional. Minimal regrowth is more likley. Some say that rogaine stops working after 2-3 years but there are also people who have been on it for many years and it still works. Chargerfan8608, First of all dont change your name just becasue someone says its gay, that ridiculous. Second, do you have any recent pictures so we can get a better idea of where you currently stand.

Matrix, 1. The 5% solution is more concentrated and therefore should be more effective. 2. There are different formulas(see Xandrox)but id suggest at least for now to buy typical rogaine 5% foam. 3.The foam and the solution work the same. Many people complained that the solution was messy and iritative to the scalp. I have been on the foam for over a year and have not expirenced any side-effects. 4.Your local drug store is the best place to buy rogaine. Monox can be purchased under many different name, i have has no problems with the rogaine foam, Hopefully iv been helpful

Hair loss report It seemed as though there was a period a few months ago where hair loss innovations seemed to be at a stand still. However recent product releasing and findings prove other wise. The following report will be a product review of viable hair loss options other than rogaine and propecia. Hair Max Laser comb: Laser therapy is nothing new and has in fact been around for over 20 years It was used by doctors on patients with damaged hair. It was not until recently that the FDA approved it for hair loss. Purpose: To thicken and stimulate growth of dormant hair follicles. How it works: The user shines low level beam across their scalp. The cells near the and on the scalp respond to energy of the light. Safety: No reported side effects. Product rating: 5/10. I am not doubting the product but it is still to early to see quite how well it works. I am bit dubious of the products ability to re-grow a substantial amount of hair but have head many good reviews. I belief substation result will occur in those already using Rogaine and propecia. Neosh 101: Nosh is currently being tested by the FDA, and is in phase II of trials. This topical solution has had good results, my dermatologist was quoted in their latest released statement, "Based on the results of this study, we are quite encouraged by the increase in hair growth observed after such a short once-daily treatment regimen with NEOSH101," said Dr. Price. Purpose: To re-grow hair. Safety: testing participants tolerated the medication well and no significant side-effects were reported. How it works: Proteasome inhibitors block the action of proteasomes: cellular complexes that break down proteins. Results: When compared to Rogaine, Neosh 101 grew hair much faster and stronger than Rogaine. Product rating. 7.5/10 It is still early but the results from testing look very promising. It's a product worth keeping an eye on. Xandrox: This product is basically is Rogaine 15 percent with a 5% ingredient that decreases DHT on your scalp (Kills two birds with one stone) Purpose: hair re-growth and decrease in DHT. Saftey: Same minimal side-effects to that of Rogaine. How it works: Monoxidil 15% regrows hair and is 3 times stronger. It other active ingredient Azelaic acid is said to block 98% of DHT formation in the scalp. Other: I have heard nothing but great things about this product, reviews are remarkable. Product rating: 9/10. There is no reason everyone shouldn't be on this stuff. I am seeing many people on forums switching to this product. I know if it were more easily obtainable id be on it. Something to really consider. Cyoctol: Not a whole lot of info on this product but San Francisco dermatologist Richard Stick has been testing this new drug which has averaged a 21% hair increase. Products currently being worked on: Dermedex: Includes adenosine which increases FGF-7, a critical chemical in hair re-growth. Cyotcyl: Drug binds to the hair follicle and protects it from DHT. Diazoxide: A drug used to treat extremely high blood pressure. When taken orally massive amount of hair growth were recorded all over the body. Tricomin: Being tested in France. Its used to repair body tissue. That's the review feel free to look up any of the previous drugs.

Hair loss report It seemed as though there was a period a few months ago where hair loss innovations seemed to be at a stand still. However recent product releasing and findings prove other wise. The following report will be a product review of viable hair loss options other than rogaine and propecia. Hair Max Laser comb: Laser therapy is nothing new and has in fact been around for over 20 years It was used by doctors on patients with damaged hair. It was not until recently that the FDA approved it for hair loss. Purpose: To thicken and stimulate growth of dormant hair follicles. How it works: The user shines low level beam across their scalp. The cells near the and on the scalp respond to energy of the light. Safety: No reported side effects. Product rating: 5/10. I am not doubting the product but it is still to early to see quite how well it works. I am bit dubious of the products ability to re-grow a substantial amount of hair but have head many good reviews. I belief substation result will occur in those already using Rogaine and propecia. Neosh 101: Nosh is currently being tested by the FDA, and is in phase II of trials. This topical solution has had good results, my dermatologist was quoted in their latest released statement, "Based on the results of this study, we are quite encouraged by the increase in hair growth observed after such a short once-daily treatment regimen with NEOSH101," said Dr. Price. Purpose: To re-grow hair. Safety: testing participants tolerated the medication well and no significant side-effects were reported. How it works: Proteasome inhibitors block the action of proteasomes: cellular complexes that break down proteins. Results: When compared to Rogaine, Neosh 101 grew hair much faster and stronger than Rogaine. Product rating. 7.5/10 It is still early but the results from testing look very promising. It's a product worth keeping an eye on. Xandrox: This product is basically is Rogaine 15 percent with a 5% ingredient that decreases DHT on your scalp (Kills two birds with one stone) Purpose: hair re-growth and decrease in DHT. Saftey: Same minimal side-effects to that of Rogaine. How it works: Monoxidil 15% regrows hair and is 3 times stronger. It other active ingredient Azelaic acid is said to block 98% of DHT formation in the scalp. Other: I have heard nothing but great things about this product, reviews are remarkable. Product rating: 9/10. There is no reason everyone shouldn't be on this stuff. I am seeing many people on forums switching to this product. I know if it were more easily obtainable id be on it. Something to really consider. Cyoctol: Not a whole lot of info on this product but San Francisco dermatologist Richard Stick has been testing this new drug which has averaged a 21% hair increase. Products currently being worked on: Dermedex: Includes adenosine which increases FGF-7, a critical chemical in hair re-growth. Cyotcyl: Drug binds to the hair follicle and protects it from DHT. Diazoxide: A drug used to treat extremely high blood pressure. When taken orally massive amount of hair growth were recorded all over the body. Tricomin: Being tested in France. Its used to repair body tissue. That's the review feel free to look up any of the previous drugs.

to my knowledge xandrox is 15% minoxidil. The normal dosage of monoxidil is 5% so this is 3 times stronger

I would help alot if you post a picture

Does anyone know anything about neosh 101, its currently in phase II and is showing promising results. Has anyone tried Xandrox

Does anyone know anything about neosh 101, its currently in phase II and is showing promising results. Has anyone tried Xandrox

Bill heres the URL... http://www.hairloss-research.org/UpdatePermixon8-07.html So ur currently not taking finasteride?

I do not take saw palmetto nor do i think it has a positive effect on hair loss. A recent study suggests other wise, see what you think The standardized extract of Saw Palmetto, (Permixon), has been extensively used for the prevention and treatment of hair loss since it first widely appeared on the European market some 17 years ago. Its reported efficacy has gotten mixed reviews. Many have claimed to have gotten moderate to significant results, while others maintain it is completely useless. There is only one study in the medical literature evaluating its effects on hairloss, and this study showed a positive result over a 6 month period. What is problematic about this study though is that one (not all) of the authors noted has a commercial interest in an oral, Saw Palmetto based, hair loss treatment product. This in itself may not necessarily negate the results. Another study, sponsored by Merck, the manufacturer of both Proscar and Propecia, evaluated the ability of Saw Palmetto to improve BPH (prostate enlargement) symptoms and lower serum levels of DHT (dihydrotestosterone) compared to finasteride(Proscar/Propecia). Not surprisingly, Saw Palmetto came out the big loser, as it showed no effect whatsoever on BPH symptoms and no effect on serum DHT levels, while finasteride dropped DHT by 65%. This one study by Merck was unfortunately enough to cause many to abandon its usage. Despite this negative result in a company sponsored study, subsequent studies showed Saw Palmetto to be at least as effective, and often superior to finasteride in its ability to mitigate the symptoms of BPH. So what gives?? The significant part of the answer lies in one of its identified mechanisms of action. There is a common and erroneous perception that Saw Palmetto and Propecia work the same way. Saw Palmetto, unlike finasteride (Proscar/Propecia), does not function as a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor that results in lower serum DHT (at least according to Merck). It works instead by reducing the uptake of DHT at the receptor sites by a factor of 40%. Another erroneous perception is that Saw Palmetto somehow only inhibits androgen binding in Prostatic tissue, and somehow leaves other sites in the body unaffected. The following study shows a reduction of DHT in all tissue specimens evaluated. Acta Obstet Gynecol Scand. 1988;67(5):397-9. The effect of Permixon on androgen receptors. el-Sheikh MM, Dakkak MR, Saddique A. Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, King Khalid University Hospital, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Permixon, the liposterolic extract of the plant Serenoa Repens is a recently introduced drug for the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasia. The effect of Permixon on dihydrotestosterone and testosterone binding by eleven different tissue specimens was tested. The drug reduced the mean uptake of both hormones by 40.9% and 41.9% respectively in all tissue specimens. Since hirsutism and virilism are among other gynecological problems caused either by excessive androgen stimulation or excess endorgan response, we suggest that Permixon could be a useful treatment in such conditions and recommend further investigations of the possible therapeutic values of the drug in gynecological practice. These findings would seem consistent with the many anecdotal claims made by female bodybuilders that Saw Palmetto reliably prevents the hair thinning and body hair growth (hirsutism) often induced by certain anabolic steroids. So what does all this mean for hair loss treatment?? It would appear to indicate that Saw Palmetto is likely very useful as a hair loss intervention, however its ascertainable effects on hair, like any mild anti-androgen, take a long time (often 1 year or more) to manifest. Not unlike Proscar , when it first came to market in '92, many have tried Saw Palmetto for a few months, didn't see visible results, and concluded it "didn't work". When Proscar(5X more finasteride than Propecia) was being experimented in the early years, prior to its FDA approval for hair loss, the consensus was that it useless, and a big disappointment. The reason for this was that the results for most were subtle and virtually undetectable for the first 6-9 months anyway. As we all know, Proscar (5mg finasteride) went on to become FDA approved for hair loss at a 1mg dose,(Propecia) in '98, a full 6 years after it came out. I was personally fortunate enough(at least for my hair) to have stayed on both Saw Palmetto and a ?? tablet of Proscar since '92. In 2004 I dropped Proscar for prophylactic health reasons (having to do with elevated estrogen levels) and have since been on a Saw Palmetto/Pygeum/Nettle /Cernitin/Beta Sitosterol combo (amongst a plethora of other compounds) with no apparent detriment to my hair. The fact is that anti-androgens by themselves are slow acting and very gradually produce subtle at best cosmetic results, and are generally far more useful for hairloss prevention and attenuation than they are for regrowth. As such, Saw Palmetto, if continually used, will likely give results equivocal to Propecia, and due to its unique mechanisms of action, can be combined with Propecia and other treatments for an additive effect.