Regular Member ljpcarrera Posted October 4, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Anyone on trt or other testosterone booster get a spike in testosterone and get sudden shedding. I started Eclomephine a few months back. It’s definitely working as I feel great and lost another 20lbs. I am on dutasteride and oral minoxidil, so I did not expect a shed. My scalp got itchy and felt inflamed all of a sudden and bam noticed increased hairloss. All the hairs were think with a white bulb, they should grow back.Seems to have subsided for now. The only other Mx in the equation is I am weening of Klonopin. I have read that you can get sudden hairloss when weening of benzos as well. I hope to be completely off them in a few months as I am tapering really slow. Those benzo pills are the devil, I was prescribed them for sleep, big mistake. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted October 4, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted October 4, 2023 I don't know how long you were on Klonopin (Clonazapam) for. Depending on the dose you were on make sure that you titrate down very slowly over a considerable period of time. All the best. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ljpcarrera Posted October 4, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Gatsby thanks for the reply on Klonopin 10 plus years. Tapered down from 2mg down to .75. I am taking the taper really slow to try to avoid the nasty withdrawal effects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted October 4, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted October 4, 2023 You will be fine @ljpcarrera. Sudden stoppage of the drug results in insomnia and increased anxiety and in rare cases seizures. Hence why it's best to taper down slowly. 👍 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted October 4, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Your shedding is most likely not due to Klonopin. I have tapered as well and no changes You increased your scalp testosterone therefor you are progressing on your MPB. Dutasteride is only dealing with DHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ljpcarrera Posted October 4, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Yep, I think my eclomehine daily dose was too high. I am cutting it in half. I will tell at 52 I feel like 32,lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted October 4, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 You can also use 17-Alfa Estradiol topically to counter act the increase test on your scalp. 25mg enclomiphene 3 times a week is more than enough. This said , it will most likely work for you for a few months and your SHBG will go up and you’ll end up with low Free Testosterone again. If you are hypogonadal TRT is the best way forward. Clomid and derivatives only work temporarily for the reason explained above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ljpcarrera Posted October 4, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Mustang I tried regular 150mg testosterone shots last year. It made my t levels go haywire. I did not feel that great. Obviously all is legit from the pharmacy. Curios what my next blood test results will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted October 4, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, ljpcarrera said: Mustang I tried regular 150mg testosterone shots last year. It made my t levels go haywire. I did not feel that great. Obviously all is legit from the pharmacy. Curios what my next blood test results will be. 150mg is quite the dose. I did 75mg up to 150mg and definitely felt wired as well on 150mg. Maybe try a lower dose, like 100mg a week split into EOD 30mg. So 120mg one week and 90 the next one. Sub-Q What probably made you go haywire was Estrogen which is a overstimulating hormone. I counter it with Progesterone which is a calming hormone But anyways, this is a different discussion and one to have with your Endo. Just sharing my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ljpcarrera Posted October 4, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Yep I was taking .25mg of enclomiphene a day. It was too much, it over powered the dutasteride. I did not think it would do that. I guess that sudden spike caused the shed, interesting as my DHT levels are super low. Shows u that a spike in other androgens cause hairloss as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mustang Posted October 4, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted October 4, 2023 Hence people use 17-Alfa Estradiol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 4, 2023 Administrators Share Posted October 4, 2023 I took benzos to sleep for 2 years. Never again. Have you had increased anxiety? The shedding could be from stress/anxiety. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ljpcarrera Posted October 5, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Hey Melvin, did you get off them cold turkey? Your body becomes dependent on them after two weeks, it changes your gaba receptors. The doctors were perscribing these like candy for sleep and that caused this huge epidemic of benzo dependency. To your question yes your anxiety can increase. Good luck Edited October 5, 2023 by ljpcarrera Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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