Regular Member AhmadChaudhry Posted July 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Antbite said: Thanks @AhmadChaudhry. Do you think my case is not complicated ? It is a very simple case for the doctor who is expert in using 0.7 mm punch for extraction so that no scarring or white dots appear. These removed grafts can easily be recycled. I am not sure whether the admin will allow me to put a link where you can see old pluggy grafts are recycled ( removed and used) plus taken from the beard area to add more density. Even though it's not a complicated case. Removed Dr. Ahmad Chaudhry Cosmo Derma clinic Lahore Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted July 24, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 I see @AhmadChaudhry. Is the idea to remove and replant them into the scarce areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AhmadChaudhry Posted July 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, Antbite said: I see @AhmadChaudhry. Is the idea to remove and replant them into the scarce areas? You need to plan 1- Removal of wrong directed grafts and utilization for re-implant 2-- You need additional from the back or sides of the head to make your recipient area more dense. Dr. Ahmad Chaudhry Cosmo Derma clinic Lahore Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted July 24, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 @AhmadChaudhry can this be done in one surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted July 24, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 13 hours ago, AhmadChaudhry said: If you remove too many grafts through electrolysis, how will you address fibrosis / scarring? As electrolysis mechanism of action through burn destruction of the tissue. This burning, scarring and fibrosis will decrease the vascularity and it will affect the future repair procedure results. What's your source for this? Electrolysis will leave less scarring and fibrosis then FUE if anything Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted July 24, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 How many grafts do you think need replacing/removing based on the photos? My left side seems a lot more consistent where as the right is much more patchy and inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AhmadChaudhry Posted July 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Antbite said: @AhmadChaudhry can this be done in one surgery? Yes your task is not difficult and simple and can easily be extracted and re-implanted. The basic principle of Fue is not to extract every follicle so your doctor will one wrong angled and leave one or two so that it would not give scarring. Dr. Ahmad Chaudhry Cosmo Derma clinic Lahore Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AhmadChaudhry Posted July 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, RTC said: What's your source for this? Electrolysis will leave less scarring and fibrosis then FUE if anything Sir, previously when there was not laser hair removal and electrolysis was the method of choice. This process leaves scars on the hair removal spots ( this include hyperpigmentation as well as skin hardness called fibrosis). When someone burns the skin or bulb of hair, it's obvious there would be some degree of scarring. It depends upon the number of grafts extracted in 1 sq.cm. Same is true smaller the punch size and spacing in the extraction, less scarring. Edited July 24, 2023 by AhmadChaudhry Dr. Ahmad Chaudhry Cosmo Derma clinic Lahore Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AhmadChaudhry Posted July 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Antbite said: @AhmadChaudhry can this be done in one surgery? Here is another example where 500 to 550 grafts extracted from the right, left and front hairline. You can see before and immediately after photos. Dr. Ahmad Chaudhry Cosmo Derma clinic Lahore Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted July 24, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, AhmadChaudhry said: Sir, previously when there was not laser hair removal and electrolysis was the method of choice. This process leaves scars on the hair removal spots ( this include hyperpigmentation as well as skin hardness called fibrosis). When someone burns the skin or bulb of hair, it's obvious there would be some degree of scarring. It depends upon the number of grafts extracted in 1 sq.cm. Same is true smaller the punch size and spacing in the extraction, less scarring. Depends on the skill of the electrologist, just like with FUE. Many people have gotten electrolysis with no lasting marks. Everything has a risk of course. 1 Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted July 24, 2023 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Antbite said: Thanks @Gatsby. who did you go for the repair? I went with Dr Pradeep Sethi at Eugenix. GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted July 24, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 hours ago, AhmadChaudhry said: Here is another example where 500 to 550 grafts extracted from the right, left and front hairline. You can see before and immediately after photos. Where did these grafts get replanted? Does it require 2 surgeries? One for each side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted July 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) I managed to get a hold of my immediate post op images. Based on these the angles and direction all seem to be okay? Could it just be a case of me waiting it out? Edited July 28, 2023 by Antbite Photos not showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member DavidFrancis Posted August 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 24, 2023 I have the same problem.. Does anyone have testimony from Bisanga for removal extraction ? I didnt see a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member baddecisions Posted August 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 24, 2023 I'm unfortunately on the same situation and I'm learning a lot from this topic. I hope we all get the desired results because once you had a bad hair transplant everything becomes more and more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member WoundedWolf Posted August 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 5:31 PM, AhmadChaudhry said: Here is another example where 500 to 550 grafts extracted from the right, left and front hairline. You can see before and immediately after photos. Can you share the pics after healing this extracted area i mean 3-6-12 months after extraction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member WoundedWolf Posted August 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 6:11 PM, RTC said: Depends on the skill of the electrologist, just like with FUE. Many people have gotten electrolysis with no lasting marks. Everything has a risk of course. Hey can you share some pics of electrolysis extracted area and healing of that area after 3-4-12 months just for reference ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member WoundedWolf Posted August 24, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 24, 2023 I think we will have to see multiple high quality photos of different cases of both electolysis and 0.7mm punch FUE extractions, especially healing pics after 3-6-12 months to see if they have scars or white dots to conclude which one is a better option correct guys ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted August 24, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WoundedWolf said: Hey can you share some pics of electrolysis extracted area and healing of that area after 3-4-12 months just for reference ? i've had some done around my beard and there is literally nothing to show you Edited August 24, 2023 by RTC 1 Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 24, 2023 Administrators Share Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, RTC said: i've had some done around my beard and there is literally nothing to show you I had 1600 grafts and no scars visible after shaving. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted September 15, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 15, 2023 Hi All, I am now approaching 12 months and as imagined not much has changed it’s just a little more dense. If anything the misplaced hairs are more prominent now. I was wondering with the mis placed hairs they seem to have a natural curl back towards the back of my head when my natural hair sits forward. I was wondering how this is managed? I feel that if the grafts were flipped and the curls were forward it wouldn’t look half as bad. How do doctors understand which was the hair will curl and which way to place to ensure the curl matches the natural hair? Apologies in advanced if this is a rookie question lol. Many thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Antbite Posted September 15, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 15, 2023 Also, based on the research and conversations I’ve had with doctors. Dr Laorwong is looking like a preferred doctor for my repair. He has been great to deal with and very honest with his thoughts and strategies. Would be interested to know if anyone else has had a repair experience with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member RTC Posted September 16, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted September 16, 2023 @AlexMeister21has had a repair with him Hattingen September 2023 - Punchouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member braun453 Posted September 17, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 17, 2023 @AhmadChaudhry do you think in a repair job misangled hair can be extracted and placed back in the correct angle at the same spot? Can the same repair be done for cobblestoned hair grafts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member AhmadChaudhry Posted September 17, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, braun453 said: @AhmadChaudhry do you think in a repair job misangled hair can be extracted and placed back in the correct angle at the same spot? Can the same repair be done for cobblestoned hair grafts? If you extract a misangled graft with a fine punch, usually 0.65 to 0.7 mm is used for this purpose, it leaves whole. However, if you rotate and place in the same place or hole where punch extracted the mangled follicles,there will be strong chances of pitting or cobblestone formation. As healing and inflammation has its own dynamics and no one can predict, what will happen to the Re implanted grafts in terms of artificial look. The best strategy is to perform a repair procedure in two or three steps within a few months' interval. This way everything can be managed and repaired. For cobblestone hair grafts, these can be extracted and placed in the front, back, right or left so that the extracted hole can take time for repair. The other best option for cobblestone is multiple sessions of laser skin resurfacing to make skin smooth. Dr. Ahmad Chaudhry Cosmo Derma clinic Lahore Pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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