Dr Hasson | November/December 2022 | 3872 FUE Grafts | 22M

[HappyMan2021]

10 minutes ago, mister_25 said:

in a email they said that in the event that my growth is subpar or not meeting the standards, that they would offer a refund or provide a free touch up

This sounds like an amazing deal. Especially since your results have been an all-around improvement, just underwhelming to you

Most places only offer free touchups if they really screwed up the first time. And in these cases you have to fight to fet the free touch up. And why would you want to go somewhere that messed up in the first place

Its also very rare to get a complete refund if you are unhappy. Even severely botched patients often have to fight tooth and nail for a refund. 

Just very surprising to me that H&W A) offers free touch ups and refunds and B) actually follows thru with them

[Balding Bad]

@mister_25 appreciate the thorough update and sorry to hear that there hasn't been much meaningful progress.

Surprised to see that H&W is willing to provide a full refund. While that's a very nice gesture, is that essentially their way of acknowledging that they flubbed this procedure?

I feel like their response at this point (7 months) would be to reassure their patient and to tell them there is still ample time for things to turn the corner, but for them to outright offer a refund, that's akin to throwing in the towel and saying yeah, this ain't gonna work out, so the least we can do is give you back your money...

I dunno, am I wrong with my line of thinking here?

[mister_25]

18 minutes ago, Balding Bad said:

@mister_25 appreciate the thorough update and sorry to hear that there hasn't been much meaningful progress.

Surprised to see that H&W is willing to provide a full refund. While that's a very nice gesture, is that essentially their way of acknowledging that they flubbed this procedure?

I feel like their response at this point (7 months) would be to reassure their patient and to tell them there is still ample time for things to turn the corner, but for them to outright offer a refund, that's akin to throwing in the towel and saying yeah, this ain't gonna work out, so the least we can do is give you back your money...

I dunno, am I wrong with my line of thinking here?

They did reassure me by telling me that there are just as many slow growers like myself then there are faster growers, they also did not really offer a refund/touch up as of yet because there is still time for it to grow, they brought it up to illustrate that Dr Hasson stands by his work and to show what he is offering if my case were to fail. They seem pretty confident that I am a slow grower rather than a failed case.

I wouldn’t say that your line of thinking is wrong, it’s just that I was rather unclear of how my discussion went with the clinic.

[Balding Bad]

30 minutes ago, mister_25 said:

They did reassure me by telling me that there are just as many slow growers like myself then there are faster growers, they also did not really offer a refund/touch up as of yet because there is still time for it to grow, they brought it up to illustrate that Dr Hasson stands by his work and to show what he is offering if my case were to fail. They seem pretty confident that I am a slow grower rather than a failed case.

I wouldn’t say that your line of thinking is wrong, it’s just that I was rather unclear of how my discussion went with the clinic.

Ah, gotcha. That makes a lot more sense. Well, for your sake, I hope on refund is in the horizon for you!

[Sunset Dune]

This is an interesting case and unusual for a highly regarded clinic to have a poor result such as this but I may have an explanation to it.

First off, a hair transplant does not always guarantee good results even from an elite doctor. Each individual case is different, there are slow growers and there are others who just aren’t good candidates for a hair transplant at all. 

The single most important factor that is directly correlated to the outcome of your surgery is the quality of your donor hair. No offense intended to you OP but judging from your pre OP pictures the quality of your existing hair/ donor hair isn’t really that great.

Your hair was already looking thin, the quality of your hairs is somewhere in the middle of below average and your hair loss is aggressive at a very young age. Your frontal region was already heavily receded you didn’t have much of a hairline left. The clinic did the best they could it’s just your case is difficult, even if you went to a top doctor in Europe the outcome may have been similar.

I don’t think you’re a good candidate for hair transplantation and quite frankly you shouldn’t have been operated on to begin with at only 22 years of age. You did your due diligence by going to an elite surgeon hoping to fix your hair situation but you didn’t factor in all your problems such as low hair quality, poor donor, very aggressive hair loss, very young age, etc. Or maybe you already knew this but decided to take a gamble and see how it might turn out unfortunately it just doesn’t work that way.

Your results may turn out a bit better than your pre op situation but your expectations shouldn’t be set high due to all the factors mentioned. 

That’s why the clinic said they would do nothing different because there is nothing else more they can do. They already did everything they were supposed to do.

Edited July 8, 2023 by Sunset Dune

[mister_25]

12 hours ago, Sunset Dune said:

This is an interesting case and unusual for a highly regarded clinic to have a poor result such as this but I may have an explanation to it.

First off, a hair transplant does not always guarantee good results even from an elite doctor. Each individual case is different, there are slow growers and there are others who just aren’t good candidates for a hair transplant at all. 

The single most important factor that is directly correlated to the outcome of your surgery is the quality of your donor hair. No offense intended to you OP but judging from your pre OP pictures the quality of your existing hair/ donor hair isn’t really that great.

Your hair was already looking thin, the quality of your hairs is somewhere in the middle of below average and your hair loss is aggressive at a very young age. Your frontal region was already heavily receded you didn’t have much of a hairline left. The clinic did the best they could it’s just your case is difficult, even if you went to a top doctor in Europe the outcome may have been similar.

I don’t think you’re a good candidate for hair transplantation and quite frankly you shouldn’t have been operated on to begin with at only 22 years of age. You did your due diligence by going to an elite surgeon hoping to fix your hair situation but you didn’t factor in all your problems such as low hair quality, poor donor, very aggressive hair loss, very young age, etc. Or maybe you already knew this but decided to take a gamble and see how it might turn out unfortunately it just doesn’t work that way.

Your results may turn out a bit better than your pre op situation but your expectations shouldn’t be set high due to all the factors mentioned. 

That’s why the clinic said they would do nothing different because there is nothing else more they can do. They already did everything they were supposed to do.

Interesting take, this goes against everything I’ve been told by the clinic, doctor and other posters.

I was told by many others here that the characteristics of my hair and donor are above average, whilst the clinic told me my donor and hair was average, this is the first I’ve been hearing that my donor and hair could be below average

I was also told by Dr Hasson that due to my usage of medication and the results of said medication that I was a candidate for hair restoration as long as I continue the medication for life because I could potentially lose more hair.

I also did factor in all appropriate variables, ever since I found this forum before surgery my goal was to make myself “ the best possible hair transplant candidate” to secure the chance of optimising a good result. When posting on here I came to the following conclusions both reaffirmed by my doctor and by the posters of this community

• My hair characteristic is average to above average
• My donor density is average to above average
• my results on medication were good
• my age is indeed a poor factor but stabilising your hair loss for two years is a good sign to move forward on a hair transplant.
• Aggressive hair loss does not have any correlation with whether implanted hair will grow or not, maybe with how long transplants will last if your not treating your hair loss.

I also personally asked Dr Hasson before the operation in emails and on the day of the operation if my expectations were unreasonable, unrealistic and attainable and he reassured me that they were attainable, but not in one procedure.

I would like to really put emphasis on the fact that I did not go into this procedure ignorant with unrealistic expectations. I did my homework and checked every single result from Hasson on this forum dating back to the early 2000s. I wasn’t expecting anything strong for the crown, but for the front I was expecting something on par with @Nordster34 factoring in that we had the same amount of grafts implanted in the front (2900) whilst he has finer hair than mine I should realistically expect something similar or even slightly stronger given hair characteristics and graft usage. 

I will also attach two photos just briefly showing what my hair looks like. These were taken in the 4th and 5th of July

Edited July 8, 2023 by mister_25

[mister_25]

[Kent]

Give it more time. You’re a slow grower but a grower nonetheless! It may also take more time to see better results because you don’t have much natural density behind your hairline. And find a stylist to clean up your early results. You’ll look and feel a lot better. Are you using powder styling products? They’re a game changer. 

[RobertoDeNiro]

We have to be patient. You still have 6 to 9 months of possible improvement.

thanks for sharing.

[Balding Bad]

Not sure if it's just cause your hair got longer, thereby giving the illusion of more density, but there does seem to be a slight improvement from your photos from May 30th.

[Sunset Dune]

Have you used ketoconazole shampoo after surgery? It’s generally recommended to avoid using it at least 6-8 months after having a hair transplant 

[MildSeven]

9 minutes ago, Sunset Dune said:

Have you used ketoconazole shampoo after surgery? It’s generally recommended to avoid using it at least 6-8 months after having a hair transplant 

after 2 weeks you can use any shampoo including Ketoconazole, ho harm at all...

it helps relieve itching, and prevent you from scratching your scap till bleeding...

[ThePerseverantWarrior]

On 7/9/2023 at 1:44 AM, mister_25 said:

Interesting take, this goes against everything I’ve been told by the clinic, doctor and other posters.

I was told by many others here that the characteristics of my hair and donor are above average, whilst the clinic told me my donor and hair was average, this is the first I’ve been hearing that my donor and hair could be below average

I was also told by Dr Hasson that due to my usage of medication and the results of said medication that I was a candidate for hair restoration as long as I continue the medication for life because I could potentially lose more hair.

I also did factor in all appropriate variables, ever since I found this forum before surgery my goal was to make myself “ the best possible hair transplant candidate” to secure the chance of optimising a good result. When posting on here I came to the following conclusions both reaffirmed by my doctor and by the posters of this community

• My hair characteristic is average to above average
• My donor density is average to above average
• my results on medication were good
• my age is indeed a poor factor but stabilising your hair loss for two years is a good sign to move forward on a hair transplant.
• Aggressive hair loss does not have any correlation with whether implanted hair will grow or not, maybe with how long transplants will last if your not treating your hair loss.

I also personally asked Dr Hasson before the operation in emails and on the day of the operation if my expectations were unreasonable, unrealistic and attainable and he reassured me that they were attainable, but not in one procedure.

I would like to really put emphasis on the fact that I did not go into this procedure ignorant with unrealistic expectations. I did my homework and checked every single result from Hasson on this forum dating back to the early 2000s. I wasn’t expecting anything strong for the crown, but for the front I was expecting something on par with @Nordster34 factoring in that we had the same amount of grafts implanted in the front (2900) whilst he has finer hair than mine I should realistically expect something similar or even slightly stronger given hair characteristics and graft usage. 

I will also attach two photos just briefly showing what my hair looks like. These were taken in the 4th and 5th of July

As someone who underwent a hair transplant at 23, I really admire the due diligence you did. A majority of young hair loss sufferers imo (including myself) don't put in half as much time, energy and patience into stabilizing hair loss via medication and research before they jump onto the hair transplant bandwagon. 

Undoubtedly, you didn't have any unrealistic expectations. Give it another 5 odd months bro.

[Balding Bad]

Hey @mister_25, hope you're doing well. Any updates?

[mister_25]

11 hours ago, Balding Bad said:

Hey @mister_25, hope you're doing well. Any updates?

I will post photos another time, I haven't been taking many photos of my hair as of much because I am trying to take my mind off it. So I'll provide a written update. This will not include the crown, as I haven't really looked at it in over a month.

A few days shy off 9 Months. Update

For the frontal third, there is definitely a aesthetic improvement to be had. However, as many of you have heard before, hair transplants are a illusion and in my case this very much applies more so than other people.

This "Illusion" only works in the following conditions.

• My hairline has to be combed in back with a slight sway towards the left. Any direction or style otherwise will make me look varying degrees of baldness or thinning.
• I cannot be in very bright lights, well lit rooms can still work but the issues arrives on how close someone is looking at me
• The further people are looking from, the better it looks. The closer up you are, the worse it looks.
• It does not hold up well from a top-down view.

The hairline itself is the problem for me, its see through still but at a much more acceptable degree than a month or two ago. The left side and widows peak are very far behind and probably have something on the lines of 5% yield in those areas. Behind the hairline, and the corners of my hairline and to the rest of the frontal third seems to be growing in well.

If I had to estimate how much yield I have, or what percentage I am from where I was, to where I thought I would be on a successful procedure. I am somewhere between 50-70%. Probably would say 65% is my own estimate.

I had a call with Doug from H&W, he likes to believe that my growth has really started to pick up (which I agree with) and that I am a few months behind. He thinks that the yield is somewhat good and that Dr Hasson purposefully decided to go lower on the density for this procedure due to the amount of loss I had and etc. This is a direct contradiction to what I was being told by Dr Hasson and the technicians at the clinic saying that the density would be good for the first time around.

I asked him what could of went wrong in the hairline to cause poor yield and what Dr Hasson would do differently the next time around, and Doug's response was something on the lines of "I am unsure but a thought could be that your single grafts could be extra fragile, on a second procedure Dr Hasson would take extreme care and be very meticulous with a touch-up on the hairline". It is also worth noting that on my post-op reports that the day one did have the words "fragile grafts" in the notes.

I also asked Doug that hypothetically if my hair stopped improving from where it is as of right now, and I were to get a second procedure to finalize and to meet my original goals, how many grafts would I need. And he replied that he thought 1500 grafts for the frontal third, and 1500 for the crown and the mid-scalp (3000 in total) would be to meet my original expectations and goals. Dr Hasson originally believed that I would need 2000 grafts to address the mid-scalp/crown in and finalize the procedure originally.

I would also like to thank @Melvin- Moderator in particular as I was having issues getting into contact with Doug at certain points and he made it happen quickly and cleanly.

I've been following your thread @Balding Bad and I've noticed that you like to rate your hair transplant on a scale from 1-10, so I will do the same.

I believe my hair transplant so far is a 4/10. I say this because I see 4/10 to be below average but not poor enough to call bad or any other label. Its not what I was expecting or what was being reinforced as reasonable expectations and is quite the let down. But I cannot deny that it is still a improvement from where I started. As for how it has improved my confidence, it hasn't at all. I still wear hats to cover it up because in my opinion there is a degree of unnaturalness due how the hairline has grown in well in the corners but poorly on the left side and the widows peak. But I will say that I do feel like I look about 10-15 years younger in the mirror. But regardless I feel like a 23 year old with the hair of someone in their mid forties

As for the bald patch I developed that I spoke off in a previous update. It was confirmed to be Alopecia Areata which I have received two injections to treat it so far. The dermatologist who was recommended to me by a forum member on here seems to think I am reacting very well to the injections and by the second injection he said that I probably wont need a third injection because its already started to come back.

I will be withholding final judgement on my hair transplant until the 1st of December. Then I can tell you whether or not I can personally recommend Dr Hasson and his team or not.

 

 

I won't be posting many updates moving forward, although I will include a 12 month update. That I can promise.

The reason I don't want to include updates is a fairly simple one, I feel embarrassed and ashamed to post on this website. I recently created a thread to ask specific questions and to assess the options that people believe are suited towards me, however I mainly received various negative comments (not about my hair, about things like my personal hygiene, mental health and my intelligence), various insults and in general patient shaming and unhelpful off topic comments, to the point where I just found it upsetting to look at to the point that despite the comments being removed, I wanted the whole thread to be removed. I request and hope that no one brings that behavior into this thread.

I am currently weighing my options and have the following ideas in mind, I would like to hear peoples opinions on the following options that I have. If you can also include information on the price/wait times of the following surgeons that would be helpful.

1. A touch-up procedure with Hasson.
2. A second procedure with FUEGENIX
3. A second procedure with Ferreira
4. A second procedure with Bisanga
5. A second procedure with Pinto

I also have a additional question, if you were in my position with the same donor reserves and same state of hair. Who would you go to or who would you believe would be the most qualified and most suited person to restore my hair?

 

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by mister_25

[HappyMan2021]

I don't think there will be much change from now (9 months) to the 1 year mark. Sure the grafts might thicken some, but nothing that will move the needle or improve the remaining pain points. 

You should be consulting with docs for your next surgery now. Waiting until the 1 yr mark is just wasting and needlessly adding an additional 3 months onto your journey. 

[Grouse]

@mister_25 for what it's worth, I think your hair looks great and it looks like you're still growing nicely. Suspect this will end with a very strong result.

If you're open to it, it may help to trim the sides shorter and bring the beard in while you continue to grow on top. I've found less hair around the head makes the hair on top look thicker.

 

Have you looked into Toppik or Derma Match at all? Those would also help with harsh lighting and "less than ideal" appearances you mentioned while you wait for next steps. Best of luck man!

[mister_25]

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

@mister_25 for what it's worth, I think your hair looks great and it looks like you're still growing nicely. Suspect this will end with a very strong result.

If you're open to it, it may help to trim the sides shorter and bring the beard in while you continue to grow on top. I've found less hair around the head makes the hair on top look thicker.

 

Have you looked into Toppik or Derma Match at all? Those would also help with harsh lighting and "less than ideal" appearances you mentioned while you wait for next steps. Best of luck man!

The reason why I havent gotten a hair cut yet (which would very much help) is because of the areata patch that I developed. I'm not entirely sure how obvious it will be with having the hair short so I am letting it grow back first before I get a haircut.

As for fibers/derma match. I am looking into it and I'll probably be trying fibers for a while. 

[GoliGoliGoli]

22 hours ago, mister_25 said:

 

1. A touch-up procedure with Hasson.
2. A second procedure with FUEGENIX
3. A second procedure with Ferreira
4. A second procedure with Bisanga
5. A second procedure with Pinto

 

 

 

If I were you I would opt for #1 if the work is free of charge. I know everyone says not to go back to a clinic whose result you weren't happy with the first time, but I think when you're talking about a clinic that is in the top 50 worldwide, the skill difference between that clinic and other clinics in the top 50 is fairly negligible. Maybe I'm wrong but I would just hate to see you pay more money to go to a different clinic to get the same results you could get from Hasson for free. 

[Kent]

I say work with Hasson. I really doubt this is a surgeon skills problem. If it can be done he can do it. 
 

I had a great experience with Hasson 11 months ago and I couldn’t be happier. 
 

Best wishes to you!

[HappyMan2021]

1 hour ago, GoliGoliGoli said:

If I were you I would opt for #1 if the work is free of charge.

Why would Hasson offer a follow up procedure free of charge in this scenario?

Im not seeing any aspects of this surgery where the surgeon or techs made any technical errors nor is the transplant design weird or anything like that.

If a free touch up is offered to OP, then great more power to him. 

But i just think a free touch up in this specific situation is akin to H&W saying "we couldnt deliver a one and done homerun 10/10 result, therefore your next surgery is free"

Since the overwhelming majority of patients are not one and done cases, im not sure why Hasson would offer a free touch up unless OP had a really compelling argument or red-handed evidence that his result was negatively affected specifically due to the surgical team.

I have to imagine in H&W's pre-op consent paperwork there is some language touching upon this, how most patients need multiple surgeries, how a one and done surgery is not guaranteed, etc. 

It would be an incredibly foolish business model for any HT clinic to guarantee a one and done result. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by HappyMan2021

[stephcurry30]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:17 AM, mister_25 said:

I will post photos another time, I haven't been taking many photos of my hair as of much because I am trying to take my mind off it. So I'll provide a written update. This will not include the crown, as I haven't really looked at it in over a month.

A few days shy off 9 Months. Update

For the frontal third, there is definitely a aesthetic improvement to be had. However, as many of you have heard before, hair transplants are a illusion and in my case this very much applies more so than other people.

This "Illusion" only works in the following conditions.

• My hairline has to be combed in back with a slight sway towards the left. Any direction or style otherwise will make me look varying degrees of baldness or thinning.
• I cannot be in very bright lights, well lit rooms can still work but the issues arrives on how close someone is looking at me
• The further people are looking from, the better it looks. The closer up you are, the worse it looks.
• It does not hold up well from a top-down view.

The hairline itself is the problem for me, its see through still but at a much more acceptable degree than a month or two ago. The left side and widows peak are very far behind and probably have something on the lines of 5% yield in those areas. Behind the hairline, and the corners of my hairline and to the rest of the frontal third seems to be growing in well.

If I had to estimate how much yield I have, or what percentage I am from where I was, to where I thought I would be on a successful procedure. I am somewhere between 50-70%. Probably would say 65% is my own estimate.

I had a call with Doug from H&W, he likes to believe that my growth has really started to pick up (which I agree with) and that I am a few months behind. He thinks that the yield is somewhat good and that Dr Hasson purposefully decided to go lower on the density for this procedure due to the amount of loss I had and etc. This is a direct contradiction to what I was being told by Dr Hasson and the technicians at the clinic saying that the density would be good for the first time around.

I asked him what could of went wrong in the hairline to cause poor yield and what Dr Hasson would do differently the next time around, and Doug's response was something on the lines of "I am unsure but a thought could be that your single grafts could be extra fragile, on a second procedure Dr Hasson would take extreme care and be very meticulous with a touch-up on the hairline". It is also worth noting that on my post-op reports that the day one did have the words "fragile grafts" in the notes.

I also asked Doug that hypothetically if my hair stopped improving from where it is as of right now, and I were to get a second procedure to finalize and to meet my original goals, how many grafts would I need. And he replied that he thought 1500 grafts for the frontal third, and 1500 for the crown and the mid-scalp (3000 in total) would be to meet my original expectations and goals. Dr Hasson originally believed that I would need 2000 grafts to address the mid-scalp/crown in and finalize the procedure originally.

I would also like to thank @Melvin- Moderator in particular as I was having issues getting into contact with Doug at certain points and he made it happen quickly and cleanly.

I've been following your thread @Balding Bad and I've noticed that you like to rate your hair transplant on a scale from 1-10, so I will do the same.

I believe my hair transplant so far is a 4/10. I say this because I see 4/10 to be below average but not poor enough to call bad or any other label. Its not what I was expecting or what was being reinforced as reasonable expectations and is quite the let down. But I cannot deny that it is still a improvement from where I started. As for how it has improved my confidence, it hasn't at all. I still wear hats to cover it up because in my opinion there is a degree of unnaturalness due how the hairline has grown in well in the corners but poorly on the left side and the widows peak. But I will say that I do feel like I look about 10-15 years younger in the mirror. But regardless I feel like a 23 year old with the hair of someone in their mid forties

As for the bald patch I developed that I spoke off in a previous update. It was confirmed to be Alopecia Areata which I have received two injections to treat it so far. The dermatologist who was recommended to me by a forum member on here seems to think I am reacting very well to the injections and by the second injection he said that I probably wont need a third injection because its already started to come back.

I will be withholding final judgement on my hair transplant until the 1st of December. Then I can tell you whether or not I can personally recommend Dr Hasson and his team or not.

 

 

I won't be posting many updates moving forward, although I will include a 12 month update. That I can promise.

The reason I don't want to include updates is a fairly simple one, I feel embarrassed and ashamed to post on this website. I recently created a thread to ask specific questions and to assess the options that people believe are suited towards me, however I mainly received various negative comments (not about my hair, about things like my personal hygiene, mental health and my intelligence), various insults and in general patient shaming and unhelpful off topic comments, to the point where I just found it upsetting to look at to the point that despite the comments being removed, I wanted the whole thread to be removed. I request and hope that no one brings that behavior into this thread.

I am currently weighing my options and have the following ideas in mind, I would like to hear peoples opinions on the following options that I have. If you can also include information on the price/wait times of the following surgeons that would be helpful.

1. A touch-up procedure with Hasson.
2. A second procedure with FUEGENIX
3. A second procedure with Ferreira
4. A second procedure with Bisanga
5. A second procedure with Pinto

I also have a additional question, if you were in my position with the same donor reserves and same state of hair. Who would you go to or who would you believe would be the most qualified and most suited person to restore my hair?

 

 

I would avoid Hasson and stick with Ferreira, Bisnaga, or Pinto. 

[Balding Bad]

@mister_25 thanks for providing that detailed update. I do find it uncanny how our results are virtually the same. Your remarks about the illusion and conditions are exactly mine as well!

I still hope for both our sake that the remaining few months allows for meaningful growth that can help turn our results around in a manner that is satisfactory. Otherwise, I think if the offer on the table for a refund from H&W is still on the table that you should take that and consider another clinic...which one that might be, I'm not too sure.

I need to start ramping up my research again, but for the time being I'm kinda leaning towards Rahal in Toronto since he is the self-dubbed "Hairline King" and the results I've seen thus far are quite impressive.

 

[mrmane85]

@mister_25 I would personally look at a different surgeon for your next procedure. 

From that list I would choose Fuegenix first if you can afford this, and if not, either Pinto or Ferreira who are both excellent. 

Best to start booking in consultations as they are so busy these days. 

[mister_25]

Here are some 9 Month Photos.

9 Months Well Lit Room (no overhead lighting)

Right:

Left:

Harsh Lighting (Infront of my monitor)

Right:

Pre-Op

 

As a reminder, the midscalp is untouched, it seems like some decent improvement from Oral Minoxidil

So I am now at the 9 month mark, which is one of the two points that H&W requested for me to send photos specifically. I thought it would be important to post here because of the milestone that is 9 months.

As you can tell, when looking at me on the right and left, it can look somewhat decent and not that much see through effect is going on. But If I slightly tilt my head down, I still have my original balding pattern on full display with varying degrees of severity by how much light is present.

On the positive notes;

I am getting more comfortable walking around my house when a visitor has arrived because I am in control of the lighting and conditions, this was something that I could not control before the operation as it would always look bad.

I am also hopeful that fibers would be very impactful for the level of hair I have now had restored. I have yet to buy them, but I have decided to have a look the next time I visit my trichologist (they have someone that should be able to help with that)

Another positive factor that almost never gets mentioned, is that my height has been somewhat of a saving grace, most people I interact with are significantly shorter than me or about the same height, and only really see the "good/decent angles" whilst taller people (or when I am sitting down) will easily see the "bad angles"

This is as much of a negative note as it is a positive, but for this case because the photos I took are up-close it applies in a positive. But the closer you are to me, the worse it looks. The further away you are, the better it looks.

A last final positive note before I mention the negatives is that the camera here does "exaggerate" the poor aspects, What I see in the mirror or even holding two mirrors and moving into various lightings, is not as bad what I see in these photos. 

Now the negative notes; 

I am going to expand on the previous point in a negative way that probably no one has ever talked about before. My vision is quite poor (to the level I am not allowed to drive without glasses) and that when I look in the mirror, the weak points of my hairline blur onto the good parts, another way of "exaggerating" it to look a lot worse than it actually is. Obviously this is rectified with me wearing glasses but it bothers me that my eyes literally generate a "worse than it actually is" picture constantly.

The term "bad hair days" really applies when you have a hair transplant I believe. Some days I have these hairs that just do not want to stay in the same position for over 5 minutes, whilst other days they can stay like that for hours.

I am still deeply insecure about my hair, nothing has changed about that. I also have a new insecurity/dread that has emerged since this procedure. Considering I was going into a Norwood 5, and now that I have 3900 grafts with questionable yield, how much donor do I feasibly have left? And how much potential area can I cover with the remaining donor?

The asymmetrical growth very much bothers me, the left side at the very front hairline looks very bare compared to the right side, It has got me concerned on how future surgeries will react in that area.

 

Overall, Mixed opinions (leaning more towards negative) on the transplant. I see that I have my own victories and defeats I have to accept that have left permanent impacts on my life. I wouldn't call it a failure, but I wouldn't call it a success either. My personal opinion is that I think the label "below average" is a good fit for it. Not enough to call bad, but not meeting your average standards or the standards that H&W have set either.

My main worry right now, is that I acknowledge this as a "first step in a two step plan" but since this is not the foreseen outcome that I had in mind, are my original expectations achievable?

I've made a bad habit of not taking crown photos, I will say that the crown is on the lines of what I was expecting (a improvement enough to help me conceal with longer hair, but not anything substantial)

On 8/27/2023 at 1:20 AM, GoliGoliGoli said:

If I were you I would opt for #1 if the work is free of charge. I know everyone says not to go back to a clinic whose result you weren't happy with the first time, but I think when you're talking about a clinic that is in the top 50 worldwide, the skill difference between that clinic and other clinics in the top 50 is fairly negligible. Maybe I'm wrong but I would just hate to see you pay more money to go to a different clinic to get the same results you could get from Hasson for free. 

At this point, my trust in the clinics ability to restore my hair is close to being lost. Trust in your clinic is a invaluable asset and factor when getting yourself through the ugly duckling and the growth phase. If I were to revisit Dr Hasson and his team in my current state I would be anxious and nervous for months to come.

What I need is to find a surgeon that will talk with me throughout the whole process, one that shows that they are 100% committed to restoring my hair and informing me on how they are doing that and to meet my original expectations but also tell me if its a multi-step procedure going forward how much each procedure should do for me. Also if possible I want a surgeon to analyze and question me so we can find out what could of went wrong in the first procedure

I would like all comments from now on to be helpful towards guiding me to a path to restore my hair. I would rather not have comments that act as commentary on my situation

Does anyone know how to contact Ferreira or Couto? Ferreira isn't open to online consultations on his website and Couto's website still says that its coming soon.

On 8/27/2023 at 6:18 AM, Balding Bad said:

I need to start ramping up my research again, but for the time being I'm kinda leaning towards Rahal in Toronto since he is the self-dubbed "Hairline King" and the results I've seen thus far are quite impressive.

I originally sent in a online consultation to Dr Rahal for my first surgery, but he rejected me due to my age and told me to email him I believe 6 Months (October 2022) to a Year Later (March 2023)

So far I have been in contact with FUEGENIX, but am also planning on contacting Bisanga and Pinto soon, what do you guys think of those two surgeons for my case?

Edited September 8, 2023 by mister_25