NW 6, two HT needed, Honest opinion, Turkey

[VAL.]

Hello Everyone i’d like to ask your opinion on my situation 

I’m a NW 5-6, I got a quote today for ~3500-4000 grafts. To cover 60-70%  The plan would then be to do another HT later to cover the crown using a mix of body hair and more from Donor area.
Does that sound possible to you judging from my pictures? 

My expectations are not set high, i’m aware that my donor area is not great but I’m also ok with the idea of achieving a NW2-3 which to me still look better then where i am now.

Do you think it is worth the risk of scaring?
I'm used to shave my head, could i go back to that if i the HT doesn’t look good? And if it does cold i still keep my hairstyle short?

the hair clinic i’m scheduled to attend is in Turkey and is considered a hair mill tho might be one of the better ones judging from the reviews. Cost 2600-3200 euro

am I making a mistake?

 

[Pbaird98]

Honest opinion. Going to a known hair mill is a huge risk and most likely a mistake yeh. You look quite young bro, are you on meds ? 

[Melvin- Admin]

I would not advise you to go to a clinic based on cost. If you can't afford a good surgeon don't get surgery. 

[VAL.]

13 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

Honest opinion. Going to a known hair mill is a huge risk and most likely a mistake yeh. You look quite young bro, are you on meds ? 

Not on meds yet but i’m considering to start. I’m 30

[Pbaird98]

1 minute ago, VAL. said:

Not on meds yet but i’m considering to start. I’m 30

Lookin at those pics you seem to have some diffused loss, as well as the clear Higher Norwood level. 

[VAL.]

would you say i’d make a ok candidate? 
If could go higher with the budget, do you have any recommendation in turkey? I appreciate your help

[VAL.]

Recipe for disaster? 😅

[Pbaird98]

8 minutes ago, VAL. said:

would you say i’d make a ok candidate? 
If could go higher with the budget, do you have any recommendation in turkey? I appreciate your help

It’s all about expectations and what a decent Dr can achieve. Both Dr Turan & Dr Bicer are recommended here, but also you could look at Dr Gur also. Where are you booked In for? 
Just being real here, even you’re beard is patchy in places. If you do go ahead then just be very careful on who you choose, save up if needed! And yeh Meds are a consideration, or you will keep losing, you do have hair to save right now. 

[VAL.]

 

4 minutes ago, Pbaird98 said:

It’s all about expectations and what a decent Dr can achieve. Both Dr Turan & Dr Bicer are recommended here, but also you could look at Dr Gur also. Where are you booked In for? 
Just being real here, even you’re beard is patchy in places. If you do go ahead then just be very careful on who you choose, save up if needed! And yeh Meds are a consideration, or you will keep losing, you do have hair to save right now. 

 dr Cinik’s clinic,

thanks for the advice 

[Pbaird98]

1 minute ago, VAL. said:

 

 dr Cinik’s clinic,

thanks for the advice 

Ah no, this a tech driven procedure, massive risk with Cinik. Occasionally puttin out a few good results, but mostly sub par. Whack Cinik in the search bar and have at it 👍🏿

[Gatsby]

1 hour ago, VAL. said:

I'm used to shave my head, could i go back to that if i the HT doesn’t look good?

 

1 hour ago, VAL. said:

am I making a mistake?

Personally I think you should stick with the shaven head look. If you don't have money to go to an elite surgeon who can give you a hair transplant/s that look natural then you will be making a huge mistake that you will regret for the rest of your life. You need money to be able to follow MPB which is progressive over the lifespan. That's means more than one surgery and possibly several. Remember you're not buy a car or a two week holiday. All the best!

[VAL.]

I did message fueCapilar and Bicer but all are fully booked, i’m in turkey for work next month so this is kind of very short notice, i’m still hoping for a spot to maybe free up if they have cancellations 

[Pbaird98]

22 hours ago, VAL. said:

I did message fueCapilar and Bicer but all are fully booked, i’m in turkey for work next month so this is kind of very short notice, i’m still hoping for a spot to maybe free up if they have cancellations 

I’m just hearing alarm bells bro, this is not the way to approach this, that kind of convenience will come at a much greater cost down the line. 
Decent Drs/Clinics are booked up, hair mills with multiple rooms and masses of patients per day are not, and they would still fit you get you’re  £££s. 
 

Edited October 19, 2022 by Pbaird98

[Gatsby]

You have to ask yourself 'why' clinics are so booked up in advance? It's because they are doing something right! They are the ones you need to be looking at. All the best.

[Doron Harati]

You'll probably loose more hair, seems you're going to be NW6, back donor have average or less than average quantity, sides donor looks good, will be for sure 2 separated procedures, beard looks so so.

[mr_peanutbutter]

6 hours ago, Doron Harati said:

You'll probably loose more hair, seems you're going to be NW6, back donor have average or less than average quantity, sides donor looks good, will be for sure 2 separated procedures, beard looks so so.

looks like the dip will go very low it seems. you can already see it forming, the density looks lower there. but the sides are high

 

is that norwood 6 or already norwood 7 ?

Edited October 19, 2022 by mr_peanutbutter

[mister_25]

If I were in your position, I would attempt to stabilise my hair loss, give finasteride/minoxidil a year, maybe a year and a half and see what happens. If you stabilise then i would consider a transplant. If Finasteride doesn’t work I would consider Dutasteride.

I would go to a top doctor that has a strong portfolio of Norwood 6/7, I wouldn’t even consider anyone else due to the fact that any mistake will ripple through your final result. 

I would recommend Dr Zarev because he is excellent with donor planning, and you do not seem to suffer from retrograde so I believe that a specialist with the donor zone like Zarev will get you a result that maximizes coverage on top while having the donor zone look untouched.

It looks like your end destination is unfortunately Norwood 7, So you have to be super careful with preservation.

Avoid Dr Cinik, he has no where near the requirements for a Norwood 6. I would look at Zarev, Sethi (Eugenix) and Pitella

[Berba11]

14 hours ago, VAL. said:

I did message fueCapilar and Bicer but all are fully booked, i’m in turkey for work next month so this is kind of very short notice, i’m still hoping for a spot to maybe free up if they have cancellations 

No No No No No.

Mate, let's get real here... This is SURGERY. Actual surgery on your head. You don't just book this in on a convenient whim. You take your time, do your research and then if you decide that surgery is an option you want to risk, you reach out for consultation with the best surgeons your budget can afford. If your budget is so limited that even the more affordable good options (like Bicer, Demirsoy, or cheaper Eugenix package) are off the table, then you wait, save up and review it later.

Look, you could book a 2nd rate clinic next month and get a very good result. You could wait a year and go with a superior clinic and get a subpar result. This can happen - it's surgery, there are variables beyond your control etc... But you want to minimise risk, not maximise it. And that is within your control. If after some serious research you decide to go with Dr Cinik then fair enough. It wouldn't be my choice personally, but at least you could say you made the decision based on something more concrete.

"I happened to be working in Turkey one month so got a HT whilst I was there" sounds like the start of a story with a terrible ending...

[Gatsby]

7 hours ago, Berba11 said:

No No No No No.

Mate, let's get real here... This is SURGERY. Actual surgery on your head. You don't just book this in on a convenient whim. You take your time, do your research and then if you decide that surgery is an option you want to risk, you reach out for consultation with the best surgeons your budget can afford. If your budget is so limited that even the more affordable good options (like Bicer, Demirsoy, or cheaper Eugenix package) are off the table, then you wait, save up and review it later.

Look, you could book a 2nd rate clinic next month and get a very good result. You could wait a year and go with a superior clinic and get a subpar result. This can happen - it's surgery, there are variables beyond your control etc... But you want to minimise risk, not maximise it. And that is within your control. If after some serious research you decide to go with Dr Cinik then fair enough. It wouldn't be my choice personally, but at least you could say you made the decision based on something more concrete.

"I happened to be working in Turkey one month so got a HT whilst I was there" sounds like the start of a story with a terrible ending...

This ^

[botchedguy95]

9 hours ago, Berba11 said:

No No No No No.

Mate, let's get real here... This is SURGERY. Actual surgery on your head. You don't just book this in on a convenient whim. You take your time, do your research and then if you decide that surgery is an option you want to risk, you reach out for consultation with the best surgeons your budget can afford. If your budget is so limited that even the more affordable good options (like Bicer, Demirsoy, or cheaper Eugenix package) are off the table, then you wait, save up and review it later.

Look, you could book a 2nd rate clinic next month and get a very good result. You could wait a year and go with a superior clinic and get a subpar result. This can happen - it's surgery, there are variables beyond your control etc... But you want to minimise risk, not maximise it. And that is within your control. If after some serious research you decide to go with Dr Cinik then fair enough. It wouldn't be my choice personally, but at least you could say you made the decision based on something more concrete.

"I happened to be working in Turkey one month so got a HT whilst I was there" sounds like the start of a story with a terrible ending...

It's so goddamn stupid looking at it now, but 4 years ago this was my exact way of thinking when I went to Turkey and got botched, "I'll just pop over there and get it done in a jiffy"..

Now, 4 years later I am awake at 3am on a work day because i can't sleep, because I keep replaying that moment when I was sitting in the clinic with a bad feeling in my gut and didn't just stand up and leave, because in a few hours I will have to get ready for work and try to hide this poorly designed and pluggy hairline and this overharvested donor, because every time I look in the mirror I know I will never have a half decent results as my precious grafts were flushed down the toilet, my best recourse is just shaving it off and living with the scars in the back of my head

Goddamn this industry and these criminal bastard surgeons that exploit guys and ruin their lives

I hope you read this OP because you still have a chance to not ruin your life