Senior Member asterix0 Posted July 30, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 30, 2022 OP I understand your frustration. You are sick of hair loss and figure, well I will roll the dice at these low cost clinics, worst case scenario I am back to where I started, and will shave my head or whatever, best case I am a lucky one that gets a great result. However, you are not considering the fact it is possible to look significantly worse after your procedure as well. The odds are higher than you think. You can get severe over harvesting in the donor area that will make shaving your head look extremely weird. You can get badly angled grafts, uneven density, an unnatural hairline that will definitely bring attention to your bad result and severely affect your self confidence. Are you still willing to roll the dice given this? Talk to @RTC or check out his channel if you don't believe me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted July 30, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Adil Jemil said: Ok sure but what about thr google reviews. They first impression as bad 😅 Interestingly as expected the 2 leaving the poor reviews also gave everyone else 1 star ⭐️ Well one of them in particular ! But with absolutely no pics or real context these type of reviews are just not something we can ever rely on. Some so called 5 ⭐️ Clinics just have 100s of very similar reviews, so heavily shilled, others might get less as competitors will leave false ones, it’s a minefield ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted July 30, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, asterix0 said: OP I understand your frustration. You are sick of hair loss and figure, well I will roll the dice at these low cost clinics, worst case scenario I am back to where I started, and will shave my head or whatever, best case I am a lucky one that gets a great result. However, you are not considering the fact it is possible to look significantly worse after your procedure as well. The odds are higher than you think. You can get severe over harvesting in the donor area that will make shaving your head look extremely weird. You can get badly angled grafts, uneven density, an unnatural hairline that will definitely bring attention to your bad result and severely affect your self confidence. Are you still willing to roll the dice given this? Talk to @RTC or check out his channel if you don't believe me. I understand that and yeah ur correct that was my first thought that it cannot be worse. thats why i stopped considering hair mills and looking for the clinics which have a gd reputation in this group like Dr.Bicer Dr.Turan and Hattingen hair transplantation which i didint do any research on till now ( the Hattingen one) what are your thoughts on these clinics ? do you have any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member asterix0 Posted July 30, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Adil Jemil said: I understand that and yeah ur correct that was my first thought that it cannot be worse. thats why i stopped considering hair mills and looking for the clinics which have a gd reputation in this group like Dr.Bicer Dr.Turan and Hattingen hair transplantation which i didint do any research on till now ( the Hattingen one) what are your thoughts on these clinics ? do you have any other suggestions? I would look into Spain, Portugal, Dr. Maras HDC clinic in Cyprus, Dr. Saifi in Poland, and Hattingen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted July 30, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Britalien said: Oh and @DaveOHigginsAs a more recent one… yes i saw that and i understand the quality, but in my case it would be 20k in hattingen. and i dont want to spend that amount. thats why im looking for a option in turkey i dont want to go to a harimill so im lloking for the best ones in tukey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Z-- Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 Bicer is the only "safe" option on the list. She won't botch you; might not be the best result and you'll still likely look thin, but if you're fine with that go for it. You have to understand that you have extensive hairloss; it's severe for a young man, and you'll likely lose more. You need to maximize your chances -- take meds if you can, opt for FUT (first), find doctors who specialise with similar patients. Turkey can't help you much with last two points. Very few doctors perform FUT, and even less so can do it well. The sense I understand is that hairloss isn't worth 20k to fix for you, and that's absolutely fine (there is more to life than hair), but don't expect a result that's as good when you opt for doctors with less experience. Manage your expectations, spend half that (or less) by going to Bicer, and you won't be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted July 31, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted July 31, 2022 Dr Bicer GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Ronnie21 Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 I’d disagree with the poster that says Bicer is the only safe option on your list. I’ve researched extensively and would say that Gur & Turan are at the same level as her, they just charge far less 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tybwl5 Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 19 hours ago, Adil Jemil said: yes i saw that and i understand the quality, but in my case it would be 20k in hattingen. and i dont want to spend that amount. thats why im looking for a option in turkey i dont want to go to a harimill so im lloking for the best ones in tukey I'm in the same boat, I'm probably a Norwood 5 with blonde hair, I'm looking at Dr gur. For 3,000 grafts it's $4,000 - Dr bicer wanted to do two separate surgerys at 4,000 grafts at $10,000 a piece. I have been following people who had it done by Dr gur tho and the results seem pretty good. Most doctors recommend taking finestride and minoxidil so I ordered topical spray and going to start using that and then I'll prolly end up going with Dr gur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Tybwl5 said: I'm in the same boat, I'm probably a Norwood 5 with blonde hair, I'm looking at Dr gur. For 3,000 grafts it's $4,000 - Dr bicer wanted to do two separate surgerys at 4,000 grafts at $10,000 a piece. I have been following people who had it done by Dr gur tho and the results seem pretty good. Most doctors recommend taking finestride and minoxidil so I ordered topical spray and going to start using that and then I'll prolly end up going with Dr gur So your are going to start using fin and minoxidil before the surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tybwl5 Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Adil Jemil said: So your are going to start using fin and minoxidil before the surgery Yeah the spray from hims.com, I won't take the finestride pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SoSoz Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 Im not advertising the clinic but I think Serkan is one of the best hair mills because I've seen great results on some people. From what I've seen they use microscopes to seperate grafts, they plant only singles in hairline, if they need more singles they slice multigrafts into singles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Tybwl5 said: Yeah the spray from hims.com, I won't take the finestride pill. Because of the side effects ? did you contact the clinic ? im planing to get my surgery this month done, do you think i can book an applintment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tybwl5 Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Adil Jemil said: Because of the side effects ? did you contact the clinic ? im planing to get my surgery this month done, do you think i can book an applintment I'm going in February probably but you can try. Yeah taking finestride orally is not something that agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tybwl5 said: I'm going in February probably but you can try. Yeah taking finestride orally is not something that agrees with me. What ur hairloss condition bro norwood scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tybwl5 Posted July 31, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Adil Jemil said: What ur hairloss condition bro norwood scale? 5, just want to do my hairline and a little on top since I'm only 30. Im the same though, I don't feel like I can justify spending 20,000 on a transplant and then theirs no guarantee it turns out good either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted July 31, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 Just now, Tybwl5 said: 5, just want to do my hairline and a little on top since I'm only 30. Im the same though, I don't feel like I can justify spending 20,000 on a transplant and then theirs no guarantee it turns out good either Bro im a norwood 5 too same here. how many grafts are u getting done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ajamilo Posted July 31, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, SoSoz said: Im not advertising the clinic but I think Serkan is one of the best hair mills because I've seen great results on some people. From what I've seen they use microscopes to seperate grafts, they plant only singles in hairline, if they need more singles they slice multigrafts into singles. That is not true. I went to Dr serkan and he botched my donor area. And i know several people who got really bad result from him and needed a repair. They dont use microscopes either so u are lying Edited July 31, 2022 by Ajamilo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mrmane85 Posted August 6, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 11:42 PM, Adil Jemil said: I understand that and yeah ur correct that was my first thought that it cannot be worse. thats why i stopped considering hair mills and looking for the clinics which have a gd reputation in this group like Dr.Bicer Dr.Turan and Hattingen hair transplantation which i didint do any research on till now ( the Hattingen one) what are your thoughts on these clinics ? do you have any other suggestions? Have you looked into Dr Camacho? 2.30USD per graft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pramazon Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I think, Turkey is the best country, choice for a hair transplant. Do you know if this is for the price, or because of the quality of the doctor. Among the doctors you have mentioned, Dr. I've heard of Bicer. I think, he is a famous doctor in Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Harry2 Posted August 8, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted August 8, 2022 @Adil Jemil did you consider HDC in Cyprus? They charge same as Dr Bicer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Adil Jemil Posted August 8, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Harry2 said: @Adil Jemil did you consider HDC in Cyprus? They charge same as Dr Bicer Why are you recomending them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Harry2 Posted August 8, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Adil Jemil said: Why are you recomending them? I'm standing at the same junction as you are, and thinking about Dr Bicer or HDC Cyprus. I can't recommend HDC over Dr Bicer, just asking you, why didn't you consider them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Iceee222 Posted October 4, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 1:21 AM, RTC said: This is your second thread where you are receiving exactly the same advice as the first. You continue to persevere with Turkey and cite cost as a reason. You are asking for a crap result, don't say we didn't warn you bro U think Dr gur will do bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member davdoff23 Posted April 28 Regular Member Share Posted April 28 On 7/31/2022 at 4:26 PM, Tybwl5 said: I'm in the same boat, I'm probably a Norwood 5 with blonde hair, I'm looking at Dr gur. For 3,000 grafts it's $4,000 - Dr bicer wanted to do two separate surgerys at 4,000 grafts at $10,000 a piece. I have been following people who had it done by Dr gur tho and the results seem pretty good. Most doctors recommend taking finestride and minoxidil so I ordered topical spray and going to start using that and then I'll prolly end up going with Dr gur Hi, wonder how was your experience with Dr. Gur in the end? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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