Senior Member IMM1979 Posted June 23, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 23, 2022 Thanks @Gatsby. We are planning a family now so Fin is a no go for obvious reasons . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2022 16 hours ago, asda said: Its not there..You could ask clinic about that information @asdaactually it was on few of the photos. 0.7-0.8 on one and 0.7-0.75-0.8 on other for punch. does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jackdaniels Posted June 24, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, IMM1979 said: @asdaactually it was on few of the photos. 0.7-0.8 on one and 0.7-0.75-0.8 on other for punch. does that make sense? yea it makes sense. This punch size is good, casuing less trauma to donor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, asda said: yea it makes sense. This punch size is good, casuing less trauma to donor @asdagood to know! Btw any thoughts on shaving with clippers the recipient area? Most advice seems to be ok after 1.5 to 2 months but my clinic saying 6 months. Big difference.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Jackdaniels Posted June 25, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/24/2022 at 10:57 AM, IMM1979 said: @asdagood to know! Btw any thoughts on shaving with clippers the recipient area? Most advice seems to be ok after 1.5 to 2 months but my clinic saying 6 months. Big difference.. Do not shave yur recipient area with clippers until month 6, because it can harm your hair follicles. Follow clinic's instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2022 Now this is interesting .. got the results of my DHT blood test back.. guess am not losing hair due to DHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted June 29, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2022 7 hours ago, IMM1979 said: Now this is interesting .. got the results of my DHT blood test back.. guess am not losing hair due to DHT! It’s not about your dht levels, it’s all about your follicle’s sensitivity to dht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 7 hours ago, IMM1979 said: Now this is interesting .. got the results of my DHT blood test back.. guess am not losing hair due to DHT! Bruh no offense but of course you are losing hair due to DHT. The only reason why you are losing hair in this very typical Male Pattern Baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia pattern is precisely and exactly because your genetic makeup is such that your hair follicles are genetically very sensitive to the little amount of DHT produced in hair follicles and prostatic tissue from Testosterone via 5AR type 2 isoenzyme conversion. Serum DHT levels in the blood are totally irrelevant. What matter is tissue DHT levels within each hair follicle on the scalp and how your androgen receptor is genetically programmed to respond in a certain way to DHT signalling pathways... It's very hard to measure DHT levels on the scalp and I think this would require scalp biopsy. I honestly wouldn't even bother with that... You need to lower by half follicular DHT levels with oral Finasteride/Dutasteride. That will slow down the process of gradual hair miniaturization that eventually leads to permanent and ireversible Male Pattern Baldness. 99% of men especially diffuse thinners think they are losing hair due to dome kind of "telogen effluvium", biotin or iron deficiency, thyroid dysfunction, scarring alopecia etc...It's a very popular misconception bro. In reality all they have is classic Androgenic Alopecia caused by genetic sensitivity of the hair follicles to the evil little DHT. ANDRO GENETIC alopecia Andro = androgens. DHT and T predominantly Genetic = your genes. Look no further. The easiest way to diagnose classic Male Pattern Baldness is to look at someone's hair under microscope. If you have certain hairs that are thinner, weaker, less pigmented than other THEN this is a sign that the typical hair miniaturization caused by DHT is occurring. And then it's time to MANN up !!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted June 29, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted June 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jason Blaha said: Bruh no offense but of course you are losing hair due to DHT. The only reason why you are losing hair in this very typical Male Pattern Baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia pattern is precisely and exactly because your genetic makeup is such that your hair follicles are genetically very sensitive to the little amount of DHT produced in hair follicles and prostatic tissue from Testosterone via 5AR type 2 isoenzyme conversion. Serum DHT levels in the blood are totally irrelevant. What matter is tissue DHT levels within each hair follicle on the scalp and how your androgen receptor is genetically programmed to respond in a certain way to DHT signalling pathways... It's very hard to measure DHT levels on the scalp and I think this would require scalp biopsy. I honestly wouldn't even bother with that... You need to lower by half follicular DHT levels with oral Finasteride/Dutasteride. That will slow down the process of gradual hair miniaturization that eventually leads to permanent and ireversible Male Pattern Baldness. 99% of men especially diffuse thinners think they are losing hair due to dome kind of "telogen effluvium", biotin or iron deficiency, thyroid dysfunction, scarring alopecia etc...It's a very popular misconception bro. In reality all they have is classic Androgenic Alopecia caused by genetic sensitivity of the hair follicles to the evil little DHT. ANDRO GENETIC alopecia Andro = androgens. DHT and T predominantly Genetic = your genes. Look no further. The easiest way to diagnose classic Male Pattern Baldness is to look at someone's hair under microscope. If you have certain hairs that are thinner, weaker, less pigmented than other THEN this is a sign that the typical hair miniaturization caused by DHT is occurring. And then it's time to MANN up !!! @Jason Blahagreat explanation, thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2022 just received the Lasercap yesterday and excited to use it as an adjunct treatment since I don’t take finasteride. Guess will be hard to track whether the cap is working on its own but willing to try . At the two-month mark now post HT. Cap looks kind of big even for my big head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 5:07 PM, Hope everything is nova said: Bruh no offense but of course you are losing hair due to DHT. The only reason why you are losing hair in this very typical Male Pattern Baldness/Androgenetic Alopecia pattern is precisely and exactly because your genetic makeup is such that your hair follicles are genetically very sensitive to the little amount of DHT produced in hair follicles and prostatic tissue from Testosterone via 5AR type 2 isoenzyme conversion. Serum DHT levels in the blood are totally irrelevant. What matter is tissue DHT levels within each hair follicle on the scalp and how your androgen receptor is genetically programmed to respond in a certain way to DHT signalling pathways... It's very hard to measure DHT levels on the scalp and I think this would require scalp biopsy. I honestly wouldn't even bother with that... You need to lower by half follicular DHT levels with oral Finasteride/Dutasteride. That will slow down the process of gradual hair miniaturization that eventually leads to permanent and ireversible Male Pattern Baldness. 99% of men especially diffuse thinners think they are losing hair due to dome kind of "telogen effluvium", biotin or iron deficiency, thyroid dysfunction, scarring alopecia etc...It's a very popular misconception bro. In reality all they have is classic Androgenic Alopecia caused by genetic sensitivity of the hair follicles to the evil little DHT. ANDRO GENETIC alopecia Andro = androgens. DHT and T predominantly Genetic = your genes. Look no further. The easiest way to diagnose classic Male Pattern Baldness is to look at someone's hair under microscope. If you have certain hairs that are thinner, weaker, less pigmented than other THEN this is a sign that the typical hair miniaturization caused by DHT is occurring. And then it's time to MANN up !!! where are your from lol the uk, i can tell you follow kevin mann religiously, are you on finasteride btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, sukh123 said: where are your from lol the uk, i can tell you follow kevin mann religiously, are you on finasteride btw @sukh123 Kevin who? No, I do not take finasteride. Plenty of my friends had the side effects. Marketed as 1% but an HT surgeon I consulted with in Singapore actually told me its north of 8%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukh123 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, IMM1979 said: @sukh123 Kevin who? No, I do not take finasteride. Plenty of my friends had the side effects. Marketed as 1% but an HT surgeon I consulted with in Singapore actually told me its north of 8%... oh, I was actually asking the guy who is called "hope everything is nova" and Kevin mann is a YouTuber who talks a lot about hair loss. Well, the only way to know if you will get side effects is to take the drug, you can always discontinue it if you do. Because I just looked at your pre-op pics and you have a lot of miniaturized hair that can still be strengthened and thickened. Also, your donor area starting to miniaturize from the part just below the crown so you really need a dht blocker to prevent any more Edited July 3, 2022 by sukh123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted July 3, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, sukh123 said: oh i was actually asking the guy who is called "hope everything is nova" and Kevin mann a YouTuber who talks alot about hairloss. Well the only way to know if you will get side effects is to take the drug, you can always discontinue it if you do. Because I just looked at your pre op pics and you have a lot of miniaturized hair that can still t be strengthened and thicken. Also your donor area starting to miniaturize from the part just below the crown so you really need a dht blocker to prevent any more thanks @sukh123, any recommendations for natural DHT blockers (i.e. not Fin)? I take Minoxidil right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member A Fue Good Men Posted July 3, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 3, 2022 2 hours ago, IMM1979 said: thanks @sukh123, any recommendations for natural DHT blockers (i.e. not Fin)? I take Minoxidil right now If you’re losing hair due to mpb natural treatments are not going to be enough to do much of anything. You need pharmaceuticals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 110620 Posted July 6, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 6/23/2022 at 4:26 PM, ASMEDMANUALFUE said: Hi IMM1979, Thank you for being cooperative and making your point as well. As a clinic we follow our patients post and we are open for every patient at all times. Therefore, mentioned forum members above were already contacted in past. The help was offered and it still stands out. It is not possible to have an influence on someone’s decisions except to be willing to provide the guidance any time. I have to point out that once again you are completely right - your patient coordinator, your surgeon as well as the clinic are there for you and all the other patients as a support and guidance at all times. Wish you an amazing journey and we are happy yo follow up your progress. Regards, Suzana ASMED Clinic “The help was offered“ Dear Suzane, Could you tell us please what kind of offer did you present to me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member botchedguy95 Posted July 8, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 9:43 PM, 110620 said: “The help was offered“ Dear Suzane, Could you tell us please what kind of offer did you present to me? Like with all hair mills "come back for another surgery for free"... but if you ask for a refund they will go crazy on you lol, their business model does not support giving refunds or the would have to file for bankruptcy, instead they offer you to go through the meat grinder again and flush even more precious grafts down the toilet as if anyone would be insane enough to take that offer 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 110620 Posted July 8, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, botchedguy95 said: Like with all hair mills "come back for another surgery for free"... but if you ask for a refund they will go crazy on you lol, their business model does not support giving refunds or the would have to file for bankruptcy, instead they offer you to go through the meat grinder again and flush even more precious grafts down the toilet as if anyone would be insane enough to take that offer ""come back for another surgery for free"" Free?!? The clinic requested money again with same rate(tariff) for new HT. If i paid "X" for 5.000 greft for first HT, they requested "X/2" for 2.500 greft and Suzana claims that it is "help was offer". English is not my native language but i belive "help offer" is not mean as like above! Maybe, this can be "help offer" if this clinic would only single HT clinic on the world! Ohh sorry, it just came to my mind. They gave me one box of Dutasterid(Avodart) and they said it is free(I was very lucky on that day) I started my topic to recive your comments about my HT after 22 months later but unfortunately i did not received any single positive comments on the forums and on my personal enviroment. So, i decided a new HT on another clinic and i had operated last month again I closed my case with this clinic but did not stop myself to reply after Ms. Suzana's "help offer" claim. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 ASMED is one of the worst clinics in the world if we consider their high price relative to their low quality/consitency and extremely poor post operative ethics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted July 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 On an Italian forum they make believe that is one of the best clinics in the world, who knows how much they earn for making people believe this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoselitoElGallo Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Your shill from the mill said: ASMED is one of the worst clinics in the world if we consider their high price relative to their low quality/consitency and extremely poor post operative ethics. 12 minutes ago, Egy said: On an Italian forum they make believe that is one of the best clinics in the world, who knows how much they earn for making people believe this. Better to open a post regarding this clinic thant destroy the journey of this colleague that prabably is stressing out all your comments since He already did his HT in Asmed and this thread is for show us his results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member IMM1979 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Senior Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 Thank you! I was about to say, can someone here please man up and start an Asmed hater thread instead of polluting my journey.. is there an adult in the room? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE TRUTH Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, IMM1979 said: Thank you! I was about to say, can someone here please man up and start an Asmed hater thread instead of polluting my journey.. is there an adult in the room? Sorry bro. Didn't mean to be negative or derail your thread. But ASMEDMANUALBOTCH comment about 110620's case made me crazy. We'll create a separate thread no problem. Best of luck. 👍 Edited July 8, 2022 by Your shill from the mill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted July 8, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 8, 2022 Yes, you are right @JoselitoElGallo, @IMM1979Forgive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoselitoElGallo Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Egy said: Yes, you are right @JoselitoElGallo, @IMM1979Forgive me. Nervermind bro, I understand you. Edited July 8, 2022 by JoselitoElGallo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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