Regular Member namy2451 Posted February 13, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Hi everyone. i'm a 32 years old black male. with afro hair texture of course. I started researching in the last year about this all HT procedure because i'm not happy with my front hairline (probably norwood 3...). I started looking for a lot of information, and learned a lot from this forum, from articles, and videos on the subject one clinic that always came up during the research as a clinic which specializes in afro hair was Asli Tarcan. So I decided to contact them, and get a consultation from them, I was surprised by the amount of lies and how little their counselors know about the procedure. So I decided I needed to show you the conversations with them to warn other people. They will tell you everything you want to hear in order to get your money !! I will just mention that these consultants have been working at Asli Tarkan for a long time. so this is the first consultant his name is Yumi: i sent him my pictures, i'd say i look something like that: after some technical questions : At this point he sends me a ton of before and after pictures of customers, and only one of the donor area (without the front). now this is their most ridiculous and most dangerous claim , they will tell you anything! i know for a fact that there is no doctor making the HT in this clinic, only technicians. They have no problem lying to get your money! At this point you can already understand how people are falling for those hair mill clinics. they have no problem deceiving people. second consultant his name is FRED: after i sent hime some pictures and some questions from him i marked in a circle the area i want them to do at this point he realizes i'm asking too many questions and stop responding. last consultant was ALI : it took their "doctor" 23 minutes to analyzie my head and decide i need 4k grafts! that's a scam ! of course again they dont have any donor area results , kinda weird for a clinic that making 25 HT a day ! NOW LIKE THE TWO PREVIOUS CONSULTANTS HE IS LYING ABOUT THE DOCTORS, NOW IT'S 18 doctors. as you can see this is a scam clinic that have no problem lying to their patients in order to get their money be warned from those type of clinics !! Edited February 13, 2022 by namy2451 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Well that made for some interesting reading, but I’m not at all surprised with any of it. Full of BS as we have come to expect. Most people would be taken in by the promise of 100% yield and 100cm2 🥺 As well as the ridiculous claims they make for the Dr/Nurse ratio in each room. Scarless ? Erm no. And it’s not always better to be boasting smaller punch’s for Afro hair. To say 3k, or even 4K is just a obscene amount of grafts.These guys are all just following a script, no personal touch is involved here. Please tell me your now looking at other Drs like Bisanga, Mwamba, Lapunzula, Diep and Feriduni? 🙏 Edited February 13, 2022 by JC71 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Drish Posted February 13, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 Whoa...this was an amusing but scary read. Quite astounding that gullible people in numbers fall for this BS. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Drish said: Whoa...this was an amusing but scary read. Quite astounding that gullible people in numbers fall for this BS. Indeed, people are taken in by Insta posts and questionable reviews. And they just tell people want they want to hear. This is the total opposite of a ethical clinic who won’t have any issues in giving you a realistic idea of what you can expect. Edited February 13, 2022 by JC71 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member namy2451 Posted February 13, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, JC71 said: Well that made for some interesting reading, but I’m not at all surprised with any of it. Full of BS as we have come to expect. Most people would be taken in by the promise of 100% yield and 100cm2 🥺 As well as the ridiculous claims they make for the Dr/Nurse ratio in each room. Scarless ? Erm no. And it’s not always better to be boasting smaller punch’s for Afro hair. To say 3k, or even 4K is just a obscene amount of grafts.These guys are all just following a script, no personal touch is involved here. Please tell me your now looking at other Drs like Bisanga, Mwamba, Lapunzula, Diep and Feriduni? 🙏 Definitely, I actually realized they were a scam after the first consultant, but I wanted to see how broad it is. Most of the people who fell for this scam, did not have the knowledge to ask these questions, and believed in this clinic because they thought they were dealing with professionals. I opened this thread to expose their lies and prevent others from falling into this trap. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, namy2451 said: Definitely, I actually realized they were a scam after the first consultant, but I wanted to see how broad it is. Most of the people who fell for this scam, did not have the knowledge to ask these questions, and believed in this clinic because they thought they were dealing with professionals. I opened this thread to expose their lies and prevent others from falling into this trap. Asli + HOI pretty much spout the same nonsense. Unfortunately though what we find is that people will arrive here on the forum when it’s already too late. The Asli Tarcan threads and info here is already pretty damning. Actually more frustrating for us is when we have people ask for advice for Afro hair and then proceed to tell the community how amazing they are ! So usually shills or people that have been convinced/brain washed. As we we get told “They are not a hair mill” erm… or “But they are not that cheap” “They have Drs” … the usual stuff… But this will be compelling reading for anybody that we can save 👍🏽 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Drish Posted February 13, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, JC71 said: Indeed, people are taken in by Insta posts and questionable reviews. And they just tell people want they want to hear. This is the total opposite of a ethical clinic who won’t have any issues in giving you a realistic idea of what you can expect. Also most people are not patient enough to do an in-depth research. They just want a quick fix solution that would magically solve their hair loss problem once and for all and end up paying heavily for such callous decisions because no such solution exists. All they end up with is botched heads and a buck load of regrets. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Drish said: Also most people are not patient enough to do an in-depth research. They just want a quick fix solution that would magically solve their hair loss problem once and for all and end up paying heavily for such callous decisions because no such solution exists. All they end up with is botched heads and a buck load of regrets. That’s exactly right. A decent hair transplant is a very good illusion of hair at best. No matter how much people want their original hair back it’s not happening. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mike10 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 one must be stupid to fall for this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Drish said: Also most people are not patient enough to do an in-depth research. They just want a quick fix solution that would magically solve their hair loss problem once and for all and end up paying heavily for such callous decisions because no such solution exists. All they end up with is botched heads and a buck load of regrets. i wish people would stop blaming patients. Yes it is up to patients to be informed and do research, but any manipulation or misrepresentation is squarely on the hands of the doctor, clinic, and staff. Patients should not be expected to have to fact check or get secondary evidence on claims the clinic or their reps make. If you were getting heart surgery, LASIK, fixing a broken arm, braces, gastric bypass - any surgery other than a HT, you as the patient would not be expected to know the minute, advanced, granular ins and outs of these procedures. You expect the doctor and staff to tell you the truth and not feed you false promises or lies. The heart of the matter is not with patients, but rather the appalling lack of regulation and low barrier of entry to join this industry, and little accountability from those who act unethically. Loads of doctors join this industry because they have failed in their primary specialty and are looking for easy money - it really shows. Edited February 13, 2022 by SadMan2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member AB2000 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 They appear to have a lot of good Google reviews? 1 My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member AB2000 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 They might be manipulating the reviews too, the first two that pop up begin exactly the same way: 4 1 My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, AB2000 said: They might be manipulating the reviews too, the first two that pop up begin exactly the same way: Yup people from the clinic shilling away…. Oh look another 1 review poster… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member namy2451 Posted February 13, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, AB2000 said: They appear to have a lot of good Google reviews? It's all fake, they spend tons of money on marketing, It's hilarious if you look at their Instagram page you will see enthusiastic comments from fake profiles of middle-aged women, reacting to men's hair transplants haha If they had actually invested the money they invest in advertising in the procedure itself, perhaps they would have been a worthy clinic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member AB2000 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 Their Instagram is a trip 1 1 My Hair Loss Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, namy2451 said: It's all fake, they spend tons of money on marketing, It's hilarious if you look at their Instagram page you will see enthusiastic comments from fake profiles of middle-aged women, reacting to men's hair transplants haha If they had actually invested the money they invest in advertising in the procedure itself, perhaps they would have been a worthy clinic lol yea. its really not hard to manipulate Google Reviews. or any social media reviews for that matter. Is it just a coincidence that every Uber driver I've ever had is rated 5/5 stars? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member HappyMan2021 Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, AB2000 said: Their Instagram is a trip https://www.instagram.com/aslitarcan/?hl=en wow I didn't realize this clinic wasn't limited to HT's, they also do boob jobs and dental work? That should be the hard red flag even before speaking to a rep. Also, lies and bad ethics aside, it is very impressive they have 3.3m followers. That's more than a lot of celebrities. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 You name it Asli Tarcan can mess up any cosmetic procedure you can think of ! Boobs, butts, tums, teeth, nose… etc 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member namy2451 Posted February 13, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, SadMan2021 said: lol yea. its really not hard to manipulate Google Reviews. or any social media reviews for that matter. Is it just a coincidence that every Uber driver I've ever had is rated 5/5 stars? lmao, it's not just google they are also in youtube and everywhere basically... look at this , same comment different users: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 13, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, namy2451 said: lmao, it's not just google they are also in youtube and everywhere basically... look at this , same comment different users: They are going for the subliminal messaging approach here 😂🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 14, 2022 Administrators Share Posted February 14, 2022 100 grafts per cm2 😂 that was an outrageous claim. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 14, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Melvin- Moderator said: 100 grafts per cm2 😂 that was an outrageous claim. Claim = 100cm2.. reality = 10cm2… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted February 14, 2022 Administrators Share Posted February 14, 2022 I’m gonna make a video about hair mills, I’ll include a lot of this information. 3 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted February 14, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Melvin- Moderator said: I’m gonna make a video about hair mills, I’ll include a lot of this information. I will get ready for the incoming shilling drones to protect them 😂🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mmokin Posted February 14, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted February 14, 2022 18 hours ago, namy2451 said: lmao, it's not just google they are also in youtube and everywhere basically... look at this , same comment different users: is that from asli or hoi comment section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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